Survivor 36 - Ghost Island: I've got nothing for you.

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Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Are you looking for Season 5 of Australian Survivor featuring Russell Hantz? :siren:

In the spirit of reusing old crap, I present to you the same old OP stuff.

If it hasn't aired in an episode, don't spoil it in this thread.

If you get a better title sometime in the run, post it!

Survivor airs Wednesdays on CBS! Check your local listings.

Have too much money? Smilies.

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What is Survivor?

Survivor is a reality show where a group of 16 to 20 or so contestants, from all walks of life, are stuck on a remote paradise and forced to live together for 39 days; gathering their own food, building their own shelter, and purifying their own water. The cast is split into opposing, equal teams, called tribes. The tribes must work together to form a community, in the hopes of one contestant becoming the Sole Survivor and winning one million dollars. At least one contestant is voted off every episode.

A typical Survivor season has three phases. Pre-Merge, Post-Merge, and Endgame.

Pre-Merge: Roughly the first half of the game. The tribes compete against each other twice each episode. First for a reward, and second for tribal immunity. Tribes that fail the immunity challenge will be forced to vote one of their own members out at the end of the episode.
Post-Merge: The tribes are merged together. Players are now playing for individual immunity and all players will participate in voting out a player from the tribe.
Endgame: Once 5-7 players or so remain, the show reaches the End game phase. Usually the very strong core alliances are shaken up here as people try to reach the end or placate the jury. The last nine players voted out before the final tribal council will join a Jury that will decide who will win of the final three (sometimes two) players.

Supplemental Material

Rob has a Podcast: Available on iTunes or their website. He does a few podcasts a week discussing the latest episodes events, interviewing the player who was voted out that episode, and provides theories about strategy. This podcast provides insight into the game that was not aired on the show. It is heavily referenced in this thread.
Twitter: Survivors poo poo on each other, shill for their crap, and every once in a while tweet something that's actually amusing.
YouTube: The Official YouTube Channel used to keep the Ponderosa videos and bonus scenes but I guess they now have those on the CBS official website? I don't know. Just search for "Ponderosa [jury member]" and you'll find someone else uploaded it so you didn't have to figure that out.

Glossary of Terms

Blindside: When a tribal council seems to be set up so one or one of two possible players are getting eliminated, but somehow either a secret coalition or a surprising idol play makes it so someone else is voted out instead.
"The Edit": Survivor is a show to entertain. It is produced and edited in a way to give players a streamlined personality and to create as much tension before Tribal Council as possible.
Goat: A useless, awful, or crazy person that is not being voted out of the game specifically so a player can look like a more desirable final survivor to the jury compared to the goat.
HII: Hidden Immunity Idol. They are hidden around the island. Clues will be given that could reveal their location. One-use item that a player can use after the votes are cast (but before they are read) at Tribal Council to nullify votes against that person. They can't be used at Final Four player or later.
Mactor: Portmanteau of "Model/Actor". A player who doesn't know the game very well and are just using it to further their career.
Pagonged: Going into post-merge, it's the act of voting out the former members of your opposing tribe before voting out the former members of your original tribe. It's the reason it's important to win tribal immunity pre-merge so that you outnumber the opposing tribe members in post-merge.
Pony/Poison: After the new season's cast is announced, thread members will pick a "Pony" (someone they think is awesome and will win) and a "Poison" (someone they think will suck and/or be an annoying rear end in a top hat they hope will lose or just simply suffer)
Purple Rocks: In the event of a tie at Tribal Council, there is a revote, with only the people receiving the most votes being eligible to receive votes during that revote. If the revote also ends in a tie, Survivors draw rocks. Whichever player draws the differently colored rock is eliminated from the game.
Splitting the vote/Flushing the Idol: An alliance that splits its votes between two members to counter a potential idol play. If one of those two players plays a Hidden Immunity Idol, there will still be enough players voting for the other guy to vote them out. This strategy can be risky.

This Season's Cast

�The jury doesn�t reward whoever plays the best game. It determines who played the best game.�

Zesty fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Aug 2, 2018

# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 08:18

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:16

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Pony: Wendell
Poison: Domenick

# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 08:29

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

41 is pretty young for the oldest player.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 10:06

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

What about them?

quote:

Given the nature of the season � pitting new players against not only each other, but specters of Survivor past as well � Probst says it was crucial to make sure the cast was filled with as many genuine Survivor fans as humanly possible.

"Massively important," he says about the decision to cast fans. "It was really the only criteria, that they had to be super fans, or they have a really good knowledge of the game. They don't have to be super fans. But that was fun. It's who I prefer. I prefer people who know how to play Survivor. I'm not one of the people who thinks it's interesting to have somebody who doesn't get the game. It does makes for interesting gameplay, so sometimes we'll do that, but personally, I would rather play with players every season. That would be my choice."

Another thing to note about the new season's cast: It's a young group. Out of the 20 castaways, two are in their early 40s, four are in their 30s, and the rest are in their 20s � with the exception of the youngest member of the cast, real estate agent and model Michael Yerger, who is 18 years old. It is among the youngest-skewing casts in recent Survivor memory, if not the youngest cast. But it's not by design, according to Probst.

"If you took a whiteboard and wrote the list of priorities down from top to bottom, No. 1 and No. 1A is that they have to be compelling storytellers and they have to be super fans," he says. "Underneath that, it would be age, occupation, geography, demographic stuff. I say this often out here: It's one thing to want the world, and it's another to have to make the decisions about what is actually here. These are our 20 best people and they're younger than normal, and they're a more attractive cast than normal. Okay! That part wasn't by design. I think fans know that, otherwise we would just cast models and bartenders all of the time. But I like this group a lot. I don't think the audience is going to be disappointed with our choices of storytellers."

Zesty fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Feb 22, 2018

# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 11:09

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Pinterest Mom posted:

Oops. Check your local listings.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Feb 22, 2018

# ¿ Feb 22, 2018 20:38

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Spatula City posted:

The winner of the last season should have a permanent asterisk next to his name.

Nah.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2018 02:14

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Mactors Mactors Mactors. I�m wondering if they recruited more than they�re letting on.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2018 08:29

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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Desiree seems like first boot material.

Why is that?

# ¿ Feb 26, 2018 00:30

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

If Laurel isn't the first person voted out on her tribe, I'll eat this post.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2018 01:04

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Zesty posted:

If Laurel isn't the first person voted out on her tribe, I'll eat this post.

So how we doing this, thread?

# ¿ Mar 2, 2018 21:22

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Armchair Survivors check in!

# ¿ Mar 3, 2018 01:16

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

The Bloop posted:

There's nothing armchair about saying it's dumb to go in survivor with zero swim ability or having never seen a bug or a stick.

loving build a fire, open a coconut, swing a machete. These things cost nothing! WHY

I was agreeing with "I would not do well on Survivor" and acknowledging we're all just as ill-fitting to the game in some way.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2018 06:25

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

"I've said tribal was live so many times and it wasn't actually live but that's the story they wanted me to tell."

From Zeke Smith on RHAP. We already knew votes were pretty much always locked in before tribal but this is the first I've seen someone specifically say that production told them to say otherwise for the cameras.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 01:17

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Right before tribal my roommate exclaimed, �If they can get the Sea Bass to flop...�

Zesty fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Mar 15, 2018

# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 05:55

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

We're 4 boots in. If anyone gets any better thread titles, announce them anytime and I'll PM a mod.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 19:50

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Ghost Island as a game mechanic is bad. It�s just exile island with an optional gamble. Not having the chance at the advantage makes the whole gimmick a wet fart for that episode. Even if you get the option to gamble your vote, the nebulous advantage so far was something that doesn�t even benefit the person who made the gamble. The whole concept punishes the player for taking a risk.

Now if they had it where you TRADE your vote for an advantage, that might be something. But no one should want to risk coming out behind.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2018 00:31

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

The behind the scenes stuff for that season is way more :stare:

than you can imagine. That cast is full of crazy people.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2018 18:38

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

That episode was really dull. Chris was the only interesting plot point and he didn't even go to tribal.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 06:19

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Ghost Island taking up so much time for zero payoff.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 07:06

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Editors also don't show us irrelevant or wasted things so sometimes it seems like finding idols was too easy when everyone spends literally half every day looking.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2018 04:11

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Mialillenns vs Gex

# ¿ Mar 26, 2018 21:22

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

I liked Peih-Gee and...

Huh.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2018 16:08

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Lone Goat posted:

I wasn't watching then, what happened in Thailand to end up in the middle of those other poo poo seasons?

Everyone was kind of lovely and terrible. Especially the final 4. Add in a fake merge and pagonging.

# ¿ Mar 27, 2018 23:52

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

blue squares posted:

Ghost Island is an impressively stupid element

Another way it can be better is if people can�t decide who on the other tribe to send to Ghost Island, THEY should draw rocks instead.

Jesus Christ this whole gimmick was poorly thought out.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2018 20:07

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Swap every episode.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 05:56

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Rarity posted:

Is it just me or is there something really creepy about Dom going 'Libby is a beautiful lady Satan' when she's essentially done nothing this whole game?

Everyone is doing stuff even if it's not making air.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 20:32

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Survivor Finland: Introverts vs Introverts

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 04:15

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

And today you�ll be playing for reward...

Lutefisk served after an afternoon at the sauna.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 04:18

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Tribe swaps are, in fact, good.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 05:03

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

The later the swap, the more dependent people get on their original tribe's identity and that just leads to pagonging.

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 21:14

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Tribal Identity is obviously not nothing. If the swap is delayed the weaker social players will get hopelessly stuck to tribal lines.

If you had a swap every episode, people wouldn't default to their original tribe. There would be more incentive to make connections with everyone they meet.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 30, 2018

# ¿ Mar 30, 2018 23:47

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Three tribes would be ideal if there was a swap every week then.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2018 01:02

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Spergatory posted:

A swap every episode would make the show loving impossible to follow. Tribal identity is nothing because tribes are arbitrary assignments. Richard Hatch said it in season loving one; Rattana, Tagi, Pagong, they're all meaningless. They could be made up words for all anyone knows. They mean only what people attribute to them, and when people realize that-- when they realize they are on the bottom of the pecking order and they _do not have to stay there_, that's when the game gets interesting. We have seen this, repeatedly. But they need a chance to realize that, and that takes either time or tribal.

Okay, Sperg.

Nexal posted:

With new beach every time along with new idols to be found.

Don't need new beaches. It's all about your ability to hustle in a new situation. Original tribe is more meaningless than ever. I think it would be fun in practice.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2018 04:55

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

They should start with a sole survivor and then vote people onto the island.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2018 06:56

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Jeff has no idea how to play Survivor.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2018 17:00

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

# ¿ Mar 31, 2018 19:39

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

I hate all returnee/newbie mix seasons.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 00:12

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BGrifter posted:

Blood vs Water 1 was pretty good too!

If they have to do mixed seasons going forward it�d be nice if the newbies were vets of other shows like Big Brother or Amazing Race. I don�t have any problem with Hayden competing against returning Survivors. It feels pretty one sided when it�s true newbies.

That�s exactly it. Micronesia might be liked, but the newbies are always absolutely hosed. Returnees are just much better equipped in every way.

Hell, a returnee won in a season with only two returning players.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 04:42

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

clown shoes posted:

I keep expected Michael Skupin to fall hands first into some troubles.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 16:20

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:16

Zesty: Jan 17, 2012; The Great Twist

Zesty posted:

Pony: Wendell

Doing good!

# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 08:10

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