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Propaganda Machine posted:And when the curse of the loving stick is reversed, Eliza joins the game and annoys the crap out of everybody. Eliza should just be a permanent member of the jury on every season.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'm assuming it refers to the situation in Survivor: Fiji, where half the contestants fought for immunity, sending the remainder to TC immediately with no time to strategize. Michelle was voted out at that TC when one of the contestants implied that he was voting for her and that was enough to send her home 3-2. The other important element with Michelle was that the major alliances were known at that point and because of the random split it was in both teams interest to lose the challenge and vote off the member of the other alliance who is temporarily on your team.
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STAC Goat posted:It was definitely a mistake of Michael to throw a vote at Wendell instead of Laurell. I suppose its possible (maybe even likely) Kellyn just didn't tell him she was gonna vote for Laurel and he couldn't have known about the extra vote that would have sent her home but he should have made that the play because it was the path of least resistance. Its not a massive, inexcusable mistake but it happened. I know it doesn’t work that way because people are emotional creatures, but Jenna cannot justifiably be mad at Donathan when she was gonna snake him.
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May 3, 2018 06:30
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Fast Luck posted:What was Jenna thinking voting Donathan anyway? I hate that kind of behavior. She's clearly not part of the Naviti alliance, but there she is doing their bidding for no benefit of her own. Imagine if Donathan had played his idol for her, and her vote took him out! Is it really worth risking that just for the opportunity to show the dominant alliance that you threw your vote their way like a good little spineless bottom dweller? And it's not likely, but maybe if she hadn't been betraying Donathan he would've picked up a better vibe from her and he would have played his idol for her. I agree. The only time to vote with the majority as a minority alliance member is when you believe the votes are gonna be split and your vote could be the one that saves you or if you have an actual secret in with the majority alliance. Anyone who is willing to work with you isn't gonna decide not to because you didn't just uselessly bend your will to the majority. The same thing happened earlier when Michael saved himself with his idol. I understand Laurel and Donathan voting with Naviti, but Jenna and Libby absolutely should have been voting with Michael. I don't understand why they didn't unless Michael isn't telling his alliance who he's voting for.
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Yeah, I could see the argument for getting rid of Jenna before Michael if it was the full merge tribe, but with the split as it happened I think it's too risky to dump Kellyn unless you can engineer it as her getting idoled out.
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May 3, 2018 15:59
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ApplesandOranges posted:I mean now that we've had a less controversial firemaking, I see where they're going with it, in that it makes for a better finale; a Dom/Angela/Laurel F3 would have been a slaughter. But, as quite a few people have pointed out, it utterly punishes the immunity winner and the person they brought along. Wendell looked much better because he won firemaking (as did Ben). Laurel looked like she was dragged to FTC (as did Ryan). That's something they need to figure out, because otherwise it's not really a good thing to win F4 immunity if you're confident in fire. My problem with the firemaking is it keeps pushing back the necessary alliance numbers for the final. With a final 2 your true alliance could never have majority control until 3 and couldn't even tie until 4, meaning you had to rope in players you plan to cut at some point which adds tension to an alliance. Final 3 pushed that to safe at 5/tied at 6. Now with firemaking you can realistically make a Final 4 alliance that has no need to be suspicious of each other that is safe from 7. I think this will lead to more situations where we have Pagongings because there is less time for bottom alliance members to realize there in a losing situation until its too late. This of course comes with the caveat that your alliance consists of people who believe they can beat each other at final tribal council, but that's the basis for strong alliances regardless of final tribal numbers.
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May 24, 2018 21:36
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santanotreal posted:I don’t get this. Like, I agree that it was a factor that played against Dom by the jury, but I don’t understand why that was the jury’s way of thinking. Dom made a huge gamble, but also completely played everyone else and tricked them into thinking it was a real idol. It saved him from getting votes that round, and made Sebastian let his extra vote go to waste. By all means, that should be a reason to vote FOR Dom, rather than against. It was good strategy but bad socially. It made Dom less likable. That’s enough to make the difference in a close decision. Not to mention jurors basically always vote for someone they like over someone they don’t. Strategy matters when you either like or dislike both all of your options.
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May 25, 2018 18:42
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STAC Goat posted:
It's give someone flack to mean to criticize someone. Cut someone some slack means to interpret their actions more generously, give them some leeway.
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May 30, 2018 19:05
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'm surprised she's never been in the running to come back, has she? Maybe she's just been soured that much by the twist. Fiji is also one of the least liked seasons, so I don’t expect there’s a ton of demand to bring her back even if she wanted to come back.
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I liked Fiji a lot. It had a stupid gimmick, but it also was a season with the nice people triumphing over the awful people and it had a solid winner. I agree it was a little boring with few standout characters, but the fall of the horseman is Top 10 episode material, easily.
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Spergatory posted:I don't mind seeing players come back however many times so long as they bring something new to the game each time. For all its faults, Game Changers gave us dominant alliance leader Queen Sandra -- and it was amazing. Even after the final swap, as her new tribe is about to vote her out, they were all like "Jesus Christ, this woman is terrifying." And she was. She really was. Yeah, It's kind of funny that the one season she lost the viewers got to see how good she really is.
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