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Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
It's the last race of the year, and I know it doesn't matter too much as the championship is already won, but anyone have any wild speculations?

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Redvenom
Jun 17, 2003
I also owe BunnyX :10Bux:
Rossi wins?

Actually I'd quite like to see Pedrosa win it, only because he's the eternal bridesmaid, and one win at the end would just be gravy.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Redvenom posted:

Rossi wins?

Actually I'd quite like to see Pedrosa win it, only because he's the eternal bridesmaid, and one win at the end would just be gravy.

Marquez will win. https://youtu.be/yJxCdh1Ps48

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Very tense Moto3 race, glad of the result though

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Or not.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

KTM breaks Miller's live feed f-bomb record :v:

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
:stare: what a day.

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something
Any guesses at the odds someone other than Marc winning next year? I feel like his crashing is finally catching up to him in the form of injuries, something I figured would happen to him eventually. Regardless I'd put less than a 10% chance Dovi or Lorenzo wins next year and I'm not sure there would be any other realistic competitors.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES
I think Dovi has a strong chance if the Ducati is the best bike but I can’t see them carrying that big of an advantage into next year.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Depends how bad Marc's injuries are, but his and crutchlows injuries might stall Honda's testing program. If that happens I wouldn't rule out Dovi or the Yamaha guys being serious contenders, with Suzuki nicking the odd podium and maybe a win here or there.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
Moto2 and Moto3 will go to a Q1/Q2 format next year. Not sure if that's too big a deal for the Moto2 riders, but it'll definitely help the Moto3 traffic jams.

Who's ready to see if the new Triumph engines will stand up to the conditions like the Honda engines did?

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
I've gotten a big kick out of watching more Moto2 and Moto3 this last season, so looking forward to more of that. New Triumph engine apparently sounds great, so should be interesting to see what they do with it.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Disintegrate, most likely.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Carth Dookie posted:

Disintegrate, most likely.
If they have any remote relation to the 675 street motors I've worked on, that's gonna be fun to watch, yeah

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Don't get me wrong, I like triumphs and they make fine road bikes, but I can't remember the last time they were responsible for an entire grid's worth of high strung race engines. Even Honda had a few go pop over the years and they are absurdly dedicated and have decades of experience.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

If they have any remote relation to the 675 street motors I've worked on, that's gonna be fun to watch, yeah

Literally a daytona motor with a bigger top end so yeah it'll be a clownshow.

My pick for next season if marquez is horribly injured by a shoulder surgery gone wrong is dovi and/or the yamahas depending on how testing shakes out for them.

I think rins is far more likely to win a race or two than lorenzo, I'll be amazed if he does better in his first year at honda than he did at ducati.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES
Am I the only one who can’t see Vinales being able to mentally hold it together for a title challenge? The dude is as quick as anyone else on the grid but I’m pretty confident he’ll fold under the pressure the second it looks like he’s a legit title contender.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

1500quidpoocati posted:

Am I the only one who can’t see Vinales being able to mentally hold it together for a title challenge? The dude is as quick as anyone else on the grid but I’m pretty confident he’ll fold under the pressure the second it looks like he’s a legit title contender.

Depends how much of his problems stemmed from finding himself on such an unexpectedly uncompetitive machine and the issues with the chief engineer. He's trying to get back into his groove with changes, and if the new bike is competitive, I can see him making a legit challenge.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
new bike testing:

pre:
TEST1
Pos Rider               Team                         Fastest lap Lead. Gap
1   VIÑALES, Maverick   Yamaha Factory Racing        1:31.416    
2   MARQUEZ, Marc       Repsol Honda Team            1:31.718    0.302
3   ROSSI, Valentino    Yamaha Factory Racing        1:31.845    0.429
4   DOVIZIOSO, Andrea   Ducati Team                  1:31.846    0.430
5   BRADL, Stefan       LCR Honda                    1:32.015    0.599
6   MORBIDELLI, Franco  Petronas Yamaha SRT          1:32.085    0.669
7   ESPARGARO, Aleix    Aprilia Racing Team Gresini  1:32.095    0.679
8   PETRUCCI, Danilo    Ducati Team                  1:32.100    0.684
9   ESPARGARO, Pol      Red Bull KTM Factory Racing  1:32.179    0.763
10  PIRRO, Michele      Ducati Team                  1:32.220    0.804
11  BAGNAIA, Francesco  Alma Pramac Racing           1:32.396    0.980
12  RINS, Alex          Team SUZUKI ECSTAR           1:32.402    0.986
13  NAKAGAMI, Takaaki   LCR Honda IDEMITSU           1:32.539    1.123
14  MILLER, Jack        Alma Pramac Racing           1:32.555    1.139
15  MIR, Joan           Team SUZUKI ECSTAR           1:32.787    1.371
16  RABAT, Tito         Reale Avintia Racing         1:32.834    1.418
17  ZARCO, Johann       Red Bull KTM Factory Racing  1:32.835    1.419
18  LORENZO, Jorge      Repsol Honda Team            1:32.959    1.543
19  IANNONE, Andrea     Aprilia Racing Team Gresini  1:33.291    1.875
20  ABRAHAM, Karel      Reale Avintia Racing         1:33.301    1.885
21  SMITH, Bradley      Aprilia Racing Test Team     1:33.709    2.293
22  FOLGER, Jonas       Yamaha Test Team             1:33.810    2.394
23  QUARTARARO, Fabio   Petronas Yamaha SRT          1:33.850    2.434
24  SYAHRIN, Hafizh     KTM Tech 3 Racing            1:34.233    2.817
25  OLIVEIRA, Miguel    KTM Tech 3 Racing            1:35.118    3.702

TEST2
Pos Rider              Team                          Fastest lap  Lead. Gap
1   VIÑALES, Maverick  Yamaha Factory Racing         1:30.757
2   DOVIZIOSO, Andrea  Ducati Team                   1:30.890     0.133
3   MARQUEZ, Marc      Repsol Honda Team             1:30.911     0.154
4   MILLER, Jack       Alma Pramac Racing            1:30.939     0.182
5   PETRUCCI, Danilo   Ducati Team                   1:30.959     0.202
6   MORBIDELLI, Franco Petronas Yamaha SRT           1:30.974     0.217
7   RINS, Alex         Team SUZUKI ECSTAR            1:31.254     0.497
8   NAKAGAMI, Takaaki  LCR Honda IDEMITSU            1:31.304     0.547
9   ROSSI, Valentino   Yamaha Factory Racing         1:31.371     0.614
10  ESPARGARO, Aleix   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   1:31.400     0.643
11  BAGNAIA, Francesco Alma Pramac Racing            1:31.405     0.648
12  LORENZO, Jorge     Repsol Honda Team             1:31.584     0.827
13  ESPARGARO, Pol     Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   1:31.628     0.871
14  MIR, Joan          Team SUZUKI ECSTAR            1:31.714     0.957
15  RABAT, Tito        Reale Avintia Racing          1:31.940     1.183
16  QUARTARARO, Fabio  Petronas Yamaha SRT           1:32.091     1.334
17  IANNONE, Andrea    Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   1:32.124     1.367
18  FOLGER, Jonas      Yamaha Test Team              1:32.265     1.508
19  PIRRO, Michele     Ducati Team                   1:32.376     1.619
20  ZARCO, Johann      Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   1:32.509     1.752
21  ABRAHAM, Karel     Reale Avintia Racing          1:32.906     2.149
22  SYAHRIN, Hafizh    KTM Tech 3 Racing             1:33.008     2.251
23  SMITH, Bradley     Aprilia Racing Test Team      1:33.028     2.271
24  OLIVEIRA, Miguel   KTM Tech 3 Racing             1:33.798     3.041
NC  BRADL, Stefan      LCR Honda 					

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Interesting. I was expecting more from KTM and I'm surprised by Aprilia.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Bacon briefcase

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES

Carth Dookie posted:

Interesting. I was expecting more from KTM and I'm surprised by Aprilia.

I think KTM is gonna have to go through what Ducati went through and learn that everyone does things a certain way for a reason in a very hard and painful way. Zarco looked like he was riding something out of the 1970s from the footage I saw.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
Someone who is less lazy than me should look up times between P1 and P15 from 10-15 years ago. Crazy how close those times are.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

n8r posted:

Someone who is less lazy than me should look up times between P1 and P15 from 10-15 years ago. Crazy how close those times are.

2.5 seconds QP2 in Valencia 2003 between Rossi and Jeremy McWilliams

1.8 seconds between P2 Sete and McWilliams.

0.8 of a second between P2 Sete and P7 Edwards (on an Aprillia at the time).

I'm not claiming a single Qualifying session would be definitive proof of anything, but it's good to remember how loving Good Rossi Was In His Prime and also how stratified that period of MotoGP could be.

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
Anyone interested in the New MotoE? It looks like they are lapping about 4 - 5 seconds a lap slower than the Moto3 bikes(testing MotoE compared to Moto3 FP3 pace during the 2018 season at Jerez):

pre:
1		DI MEGLIO, Mike		1:51.623			4 / 4	1:51.623
2		DE PUNIET, Randy	1:52.204	0.581	0.581	3 / 3	1:52.204
3		FORAY, Kenny		1:52.261	0.638	0.057	3 / 3	1:52.261
4		CASADEI, Mattia		1:52.447	0.824	0.186	4 / 4	1:52.447
5		FERRARI, Matteo		1:53.428	1.805	0.981	2 / 2	1:53.428
6		TEROL, Nicolas		1:53.834	2.211	0.406	3 / 3	1:53.834
7		RAFFIN, Jesko		1:54.372	2.749	0.538	4 / 4	1:54.372
8		HOOK, Josh                  1:54.997	3.374	0.625	3 / 3	1:54.997
9		GIBERNAU, Sete		1:56.094	4.471	1.097	3 / 3	1:56.094
10		MIRALLES, Julian	        1:58.861	7.238	2.767	3 / 3	1:58.861
I was somewhat surprised to see that in earlier test runs, some of the riders were doing 11 and 12 lap sessions, though I'd need to check to footage to see if all of those laps were contiguous.

Also, I'm digging a few of the names trying to get back to the paddock, Gibernau, Di Meglio, and De Puniet as "blasts from the past".

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

Skreemer posted:

Anyone interested in the New MotoE? It looks like they are lapping about 4 - 5 seconds a lap slower than the Moto3 bikes(testing MotoE compared to Moto3 FP3 pace during the 2018 season at Jerez):

pre:
1		DI MEGLIO, Mike		1:51.623			4 / 4	1:51.623
2		DE PUNIET, Randy	1:52.204	0.581	0.581	3 / 3	1:52.204
3		FORAY, Kenny		1:52.261	0.638	0.057	3 / 3	1:52.261
4		CASADEI, Mattia		1:52.447	0.824	0.186	4 / 4	1:52.447
5		FERRARI, Matteo		1:53.428	1.805	0.981	2 / 2	1:53.428
6		TEROL, Nicolas		1:53.834	2.211	0.406	3 / 3	1:53.834
7		RAFFIN, Jesko		1:54.372	2.749	0.538	4 / 4	1:54.372
8		HOOK, Josh                  1:54.997	3.374	0.625	3 / 3	1:54.997
9		GIBERNAU, Sete		1:56.094	4.471	1.097	3 / 3	1:56.094
10		MIRALLES, Julian	        1:58.861	7.238	2.767	3 / 3	1:58.861
I was somewhat surprised to see that in earlier test runs, some of the riders were doing 11 and 12 lap sessions, though I'd need to check to footage to see if all of those laps were contiguous.

Also, I'm digging a few of the names trying to get back to the paddock, Gibernau, Di Meglio, and De Puniet as "blasts from the past".

I'm interested but God drat that's slow. Hopefully it's just growing pains and they'll get up to at least moto3 speeds by the end of the year.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's a has-been who's who!

It'll be interesting to watch as a prelude to the future but those bikes are pigs. 200+kg.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Dirt Road Junglist fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Nov 26, 2018

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002


:cool::respek::cool:

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
Lol “Anyone brave enough to say they love pussy??”

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

It's a bit uncouth to be brazen about it, to be fair.

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

Minto Took posted:

It's a bit uncouth to be brazen about it, to be fair.

this guy does NOT gently caress

hayden.
Sep 11, 2007

here's a goat on a pig or something
I could wear that hat every day for a year in the US and I don't think a single person would know what it meant. I've watched MotoGP for over a decade and I only remember when someone mentions it.

I hope JL is just sucking because of injuries still. I guess he improved a ton in test 2.

hayden. fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Nov 27, 2018

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

hayden. posted:

I could wear that hat every day for a year in the US and I don't think a single person would know what it meant. I've watched MotoGP for over a decade and I only remember when someone mentions it.

I hope JL is just sucking because of injuries still. I guess he improved a ton in test 2.

I've seen quite a lot of 46 gear around Portland, and I've gotten stopped on the street before in my Nicky Hayden hoodie and in my Rossi jackets, so I figure someone will notice the hat eventually.

I also have a Seattle Supersonics hat that gets a lot of attention, and I occasionally run into another Mets fan while sporting the ballcap...but we mostly refuse to make eye contact and apologize to each other for no reason.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES
My kart club president is a big MotoGP fan and a second generation Italian immigrant so I’m quite sure a WLF hat would raise some questions

Kanye East
Jul 7, 2006
Has anyone got a lazy 250,000 Euros they can give me, I need a new track day bike...

http://www.mcnews.com.au/buy-genuine-ktm-rc16-motogp-machine/

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Pretty overpriced for a top ten bike at best :v:

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.
Should Rossi give up on two wheels as a racer and transition to 4 wheels?
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december/monza-show/page/5946--12-12-.html

MotoGP legend Valentino Rossi completed a clean sweep of stage wins to secure his seventh Monza Rally Show victory ahead of WRC star Teemu Suninen on Sunday.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

I'm sure that when he's finally done with bikes he'll do rally for fun and keep his toe in the bike scene with his junior teams. Dude seems to have it all worked out

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Rossi tested with Ferrari years back but Ferrari went with Kimi. Low energy team. Sad.

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