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CubeTheory posted:I personally feel like anime used to be an outlet for creative writers and directors to tell stories they couldn't tell without animating them due to budget concerns. CubeTheory posted:the anime fandom, a demographic that didn't exist nearly as much 30 years ago. also what was daicon 3. CubeTheory posted:I feel that the further you look back the more you are going to find shows that are good and populist without necessarily being pandering to the anime demographic. noted non pandering show, love hina. in conclusion, op, do not listen to the olds who tell you that only old anime is good or that there are more good old anime than recent anime. they are liars and cheats. all anime is good.
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CubeTheory posted:I think this is why so many people like to point at older animes like Cowboy Bebop as shining beacons, they feel wholly original in a way a lot of newer stuff does not. People point to a lot of these older animes because theyre both things that got a lot of posters here into Anime when they aired on western TV and have stood the test of time so theres a level of resonance and safeness in the recommendation (I'm not condemning that, by the way)
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Feb 27, 2018 03:39
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official old here to say, it's ok to watch new shows and skip all that old crap if you want
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Feb 27, 2018 03:41
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Captain Invictus posted:You should watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes since you started your anime journey in the Trump thread and I feel it's the most relevant anime to the origin of your ride here! OP should watch all 4000 eps of Doraemon
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Namtab posted:There's no way op hasn't heard of pokemon I've certainly heard of Pokemon. Digression, but I attended a web development bootcamp. Many of our projects were to query and manipulate data from databases. And, often, we used as an example, a database of pokemon. That's about the extent of my exposure to pokemon and, in that context, it really added to my confusion during the course. Lol. Lots of little turtle dudes fighting lizard dudes. It oddly didn't compel me to jump into the genre. PS: Let me tell you one day why not to attend a web development bootcamp. PSS: Let me tell you to save your money, take Harvard's CS50 instead, learn some basics of object-oriented programming, pick up C#, Java or the like, profit, and watch anime instead.
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Feb 27, 2018 03:48
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bogoodski posted:watch anime instead
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Feb 27, 2018 03:50
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Trigun would probably be a good followup to Cowboy Beebop. Outlaw Star would be another good choice.Namtab posted:Watch k-on and discover the greatest genre, slice of life Actually watch Azumanga Daioh instead because it's not bad.
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Feb 27, 2018 03:56
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C.M. Kruger posted:
anything made after 2004 is peepeedoodoo XD
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C.M. Kruger posted:Trigun would probably be a good followup to Cowboy Beebop. Outlaw Star would be another good choice. I'll cosign and add Baccano! to this list of suggestions, it is a good show about alchemy, the mafia, and people with awesome and/or hilarious names. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msg8ypnLqaw
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Feb 27, 2018 04:48
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Namtab posted:Watch k-on and discover the greatest genre, slice of life I know that this is just your gimmick to recommend k-on everywhere but the OP talked about art earlier and K-on's background art is genuinely top notch. I mean, it's not similar to Cowboy Bebop in any other way besides that, as far as I'm aware, but still.
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Feb 27, 2018 04:52
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Remember to watch the Cowboy Bebop movie after you're done the series.
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Feb 27, 2018 04:55
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In this thread and the few other places I've mentioned it, I keep seeing baccano mentioned. So, I might try that next. For now, I'm just gonna continue with Bebop but if I do expand out, I think that'll be the direction. Based solely on it being commonly recommended. Quite the burden of culpability you've all assumed!
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Feb 27, 2018 04:59
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u sp33k l33t br0 posted:Remember to watch the Cowboy Bebop movie after you're done the series. THERE'S A MOVIE?!?!?!
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bogoodski posted:THERE'S A MOVIE?!?!?! There is; I don't care for it as much as the series but if you treat it like a 4 part episode it's alright.
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Calvin Coolposts posted:I'll cosign and add Baccano! to this list of suggestions, it is a good show about alchemy, the mafia, and people with awesome and/or hilarious names. Baccano! Pop Quiz: You are a Baccano! character. Please circle one or more entries that best describe you: a. some kind of evil alchemy monster b. named 'Jaccuzi Splot' c. a serial killer d. a criminal with a heart of gold e. an extremely snappy dresser f. a 1930s mafioso, see? g. completely bugfuck insane Eela6 fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Feb 27, 2018 |
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bogoodski posted:In this thread and the few other places I've mentioned it, I keep seeing baccano mentioned. So, I might try that next. For now, I'm just gonna continue with Bebop but if I do expand out, I think that'll be the direction. Based solely on it being commonly recommended. Quite the burden of culpability you've all assumed! Baccano is pretty fantastic so I'll recommend it
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Feb 27, 2018 06:22
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How about Turn A Gundam if you ever want a longer show? It's 50something episodes of strange, off-kilter giant robot fun and Tomino wackiness! It was the first anime that I introduced my girlfriend to and she loved it.
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Feb 27, 2018 06:34
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This is a really cool idea OP
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Feb 27, 2018 06:47
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bogoodski posted:PSS: Quick non-anime aside: "P.S." stands for "post script", so the more post scripts you add on, the more Ps you add!
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Quick non-anime aside: "P.S." stands for "post script", so the more post scripts you add on, the more Ps you add! Wow. Now that I've actually verbalized "PSS", I realize how goofy "post script script" sounds. But it has a rhythm to it and now I can't stop saying it. I'm going to bed.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Trigun would probably be a good followup to Cowboy Beebop. Outlaw Star would be another good choice. I once attempted to get somebody into anime by suggesting Trigun. He completely poo poo on me after the first ep because, in fairness, Vash is an pretty obnoxious protagonist for somebody who isn't already anime as hell to digest. It's a pretty solid show if you can get used to Vash's excitableness though. I mostly just lurk this forum, but as an anime old I decided this looked like a good thread idea and I even have some suggestions! Macross Plus is a four part OVA (think of it as a two hour movie split into four episodes) from the mid 90s and I have always thought of it as a good "first anime" for sci fi fans. It's part of the Macross franchise, but you don't need to know anything about it to understand the story presented in Macross Plus - it is about three characters in a love triangle / rivalry relationship that just happens to use a military test program for transforming fighter jets as the backdrop. At two hours it's pretty compact and focused on the main plot. It also has an excellent soundtrack by Yoko Kanno, who later went on to compose Cowboy Bebop's music. Also rad as hell jet planes that transform into robots and the Pink Floyd concert of the future. It's been suggested several times already but Ghost in the Shell would also be a good choice. The 1995 movie is legitimately a cyberpunk genre classic and the early 2000s Stand Alone Complex TV show is also really solid as show about cyborg cops who track down conventional criminals and unconventional terrorists with lots of moral grey areas. Somewhat coincidentally, Yoko Kanno also composed the music for GitS:SAC. Don't worry, she's not the only person who makes music for these things! She just happens to have worked on some really good shows whose music I liked. For something more recent and not in the sci fi vein, there's Devilman Crybaby on Netflix. Yes, it's a remake of a 45 year old show. It diverges pretty greatly at points though, and modernizes it pretty well while still retaining most of the original's infamous climax. It's also got great music, trippy visuals, and some unfortunate/amazing ideas about how devilmen run. Might want to avoid watching it with small children or people who are easily upset by hyperviolence.
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Endorph posted:i personally feel like anime used to be cool before women started making it What I posted was quick opinions, rough feelings I have that I even qualified as possibly being nostalgia driven. I can't be entirely sure, but if this is supposed to paint me as some sort of sexist, then uh, go gently caress yourself? If not, I apologize for the bad words.
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bogoodski posted:Wow. Now that I've actually verbalized "PSS", I realize how goofy "post script script" sounds. But it has a rhythm to it and now I can't stop saying it. It's 2 am and now I can't stop saying "post script script script script". Yeah, bedtime
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I started a similar journey last summer. I wasn't entirely new to anime, having watched some of the late-80s movies when they first came to the UK, and also having watched Tiger Mask W weekly from its premiere. I felt I needed some episodic but short drama to fill a gap, and with western shows running 40+ minutes it seemed that anime would do just that. Coming from a wrestling angle, I asked noted anime fan and pro-wrestler ACH for a recommendation on Twitter and he threw up My Hero Academia, which I devoured. From that point I was hooked, and watched Cowboy Bebop and Attack On Titan as my next two series, before diving into a whole load more. I'm now watching 8 shows weekly from the current season! I wish I'd done a thread like this at the time, and I'll be following along!
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CubeTheory posted:This argmuent has already began so I'll throw in my poor opinion: https://twitter.com/azurehisui/status/790244068374810625
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Occasionally ADTRW is like the old guy where I work who kept trying to tell me there was no good music made after the 70's
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superLINUS posted:I started a similar journey last summer. I wasn't entirely new to anime, having watched some of the late-80s movies when they first came to the UK, and also having watched Tiger Mask W weekly from its premiere. I'm sad you didn't! Just finished Tiger Mask W earlier in the year and it would've been cool to see some other takes on it.
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Sakurazuka posted:Occasionally ADTRW is like the old guy where I work who kept trying to tell me there was no good music made after the 70's There's no good music made after the 80's.
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Captain Invictus posted:That's nonsense. Wrong, unless you mean the 1880s. 
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It seems like most of the recommendations you've been getting have been for action shows that could air on Toonami. There are a lot of good shows fitting that description, but anime has a lot more to offer than that, so I'm going to suggest something in a completely different direction: A Silent Voice (Koe no Katachi). It's a film about a very human struggle with self-loathing and trying to make amends, and I think it's a great example of some of the other things anime can excel at. Also, IMO: be very skeptical of anyone who says that only ancient shows are worth watching. Tons of great anime are being produced right now, in so many different genres and styles. I don't think there are many good reasons to recommend Trigun in 2018. For as long as I can remember, it's been always mentioned in the same breath as Cowboy Bebop, but the two shows couldn't be much further apart. Vash is a loud and insufferable protagonist (much like my posting), half of the show is wasted on bad Cliche Anime Humor that isn't funny (again, my posts), and the art looks like the cels were left to melt in someone's car for a year. There are so many fantastic newer anime to discover before going there.
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Things I didnt say: Only old shows are worth watching, all new shows are bad, they should only watch action shows, that old shows are better than new shows, Things I did say: The anime industry has grown and there are a lot more shows now and a lot of the ones that rise to the top are built on 30+ years of iteration and tropes and feel less populist to me and I feel more off putting to someone unfamiliar with anime. I was suggesting what I felt was a decent launching point for people coming from no anime at all. Also, as far as I know there are less shows about loving your little sister in the early 90s. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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CubeTheory posted:Things I didnt say: Only old shows are worth watching, all new shows are bad, they should only watch action shows, that old shows are better than new shows, your posts are loving awful, please stop trying to poison his mind
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Feb 27, 2018 16:28
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Character archetypes didn't exist before K-On.
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the "anime is so impenetrable" thing seems dumb to me now, after seeing new fans consistently jump into basically whatever is new and enjoy it, regardless of what experienced fans think of its accessibility.
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things you shouldn't recommend to people new to anime: anime-gataris i guess?
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CubeTheory posted:Things I didnt say: Only old shows are worth watching, all new shows are bad, they should only watch action shows, that old shows are better than new shows, See, if you don't understand how what you're doing here is incredibly off putting for someone new to anime then please step back and think about it some more. Also there is just as much good stuff being made now as there was in the past and I can guarantee you weren't aware of the bad stuff in the past.
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Aurora posted:your posts are loving awful, please stop trying to poison his mind Recommending all-around beloved classics, such as Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, or School Days is not unreasonable for a total newbie. Once he's gotten his hooks into some of those, branching out is totally cool. Or he could jump on a more "recent" series that was widely praised, like Tiger and Bunny, or The Eccentric Family, or March Comes In Like A Lion. Or dozens of others, really. But starting off with top shelf stuff is fine, especially genre-defining works. Though once he's gotten into Legend of the Galactic Heroes, he may never be able to appreciate another anime again...
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let's name all the old anime that have lots of women in them vs all the new anime that have lots of women in them
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Captain Invictus posted:Recommending all-around beloved classics [...] School Days gently caress off lol
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