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bogoodski posted:About to catch another episode(s). Review first! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4TDBXebWc He's the Black Dog and when he bites he never let's go.  Toys in the Attic is up next. 
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Toys in the Attic tends to be disliked by a lot of people I know for being a throwaway episode even for a throwaway episode. I think it's kinda fun myself.
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Mar 3, 2018 18:03
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Toys in the Attic is a great episode.
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Mar 3, 2018 18:20
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Fabricated posted:Toys in the Attic tends to be disliked by a lot of people I know for being a throwaway episode even for a throwaway episode. I like it too. I think it's dumb in a fun way, it's a good break from some serious stuff.
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Mar 3, 2018 18:27
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Toys in the Attic is a great Alien half-homage half-parody.
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Mar 3, 2018 18:40
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Toys in the Attic is a great, fun episode and it’s good to have something lighthearted here considering what comes after.Mo_Steel posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4TDBXebWc Elm is such a great track. One of the more underrated pieces of Bebop music I think.
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Mar 4, 2018 08:52
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Thundarr posted:I would be kind of concerned about somebody who doesn't at least tear up while watching Grave of the Fireflies. Also: OP: Cowboy Bebop had a strange release, where there were about 15 episodes originally, mostly concerning the main Spike and Jet plot threads. Some episodes feel like filler because they were filler to get to two 13 episode seasons. For me, once I really got to know the characters the filler episodes felt a lot better, especially the comedic episodes near the end of the series. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 5, 2018 03:36
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CannonFodder posted:Also: OP: Cowboy Bebop had a strange release, where there were about 15 episodes originally, mostly concerning the main Spike and Jet plot threads. Some episodes feel like filler because they were filler to get to two 13 episode seasons. For me, once I really got to know the characters the filler episodes felt a lot better, especially the comedic episodes near the end of the series. Is that what happened? From what I had heard, it was just that the TV station refused to broadcast a lot of the episodes so they weren't shown until a while later when a satellite station re-aired the whole thing.
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Just a quick update: Still chugging along through Bebop. I had a busy weekend, some good (learned what anemones are with a friend while checking out coastal tide pools), some awful (a nasty pothole put my car in the shop), so no review. Other than to say that I watched Toys in the Attic. And I enjoyed it. Though, I wonder how I would have felt about the episode had it came earlier in the series. That is to say that Toys in the Attic benefited from me having developed an appreciation for the characters. Had this session occurred earlier in the series, its "throw-away" nature may have been more distracting. As it was, it worked, and I enjoyed it. It was kinda neat to see how each of the characters approached their fears and their reaction (especially Spike's) to each of their fellow crew members being bitten. I'll be interested in seeing if the dynamic between the group is consistent throughout the series because it intrigues me how they are very much individuals, in for the bounty hunt, and on the ship, for themselves. Yet, every once in a while, I notice a little glimpse of empathy amongst them, toward each other. Maybe this was a review. Sort of stream of consciousness. Needless to say, if I'm casually referring to Bebop characters as if they're real, I must be into it!
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Mar 5, 2018 05:56
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esselfortium posted:Is that what happened? From what I had heard, it was just that the TV station refused to broadcast a lot of the episodes so they weren't shown until a while later when a satellite station re-aired the whole thing. Should I edit my wrongness out?
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Mar 5, 2018 21:46
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CannonFodder posted:I got it wrong, you're right. I'd say no, just to keep from making the subsequent conversation more confusing.
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Mar 5, 2018 22:47
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Jupiter Jazz Part 1 😲
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Mar 7, 2018 05:43
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bogoodski posted:Jupiter Jazz Part 1 😲 And Part 2. A. Where did that come from???? B. When Bebop gets real, it gets real! Two incredible episodes. I'm pretty floored.
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Mar 7, 2018 06:11
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I don't mean to be presumptuous, but I think I speak for all of us when I say: we're glad you like it 
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I speak for all of us when I say: we're glad you like it
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Mar 7, 2018 06:50
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bogoodski posted:And Part 2.
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Mar 7, 2018 06:52
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Jupiter Jazz might be my favorite Bebop episodes. Gren rules
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Mar 7, 2018 07:34
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Jupiter Jazz...just reading the name gives me goosebumps. Makes me want a stiff drink despite not being a drinker.
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Mar 7, 2018 14:28
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It's got one of the best tracks in the series' really good OST at the end.
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Mar 7, 2018 18:39
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Oh I love Jupiter Jazz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk
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Mar 7, 2018 21:12
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Has anyone said “watch jojo’s bizarre adventure!” yet? Cause I’m saying it Watch jojo’s bizarre adventure!
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Mar 7, 2018 21:20
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I say, just like with LoGH: not yet. No super long series yet.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:01
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RIP, Jupiter Jazz is incoming. Vicious episodes are a slog
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Meme Emulator posted:RIP, Jupiter Jazz is incoming. Vicious episodes are a slog Jupiter Jazz already happened a bit up the page
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Mar 8, 2018 02:09
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I consistently think that I've "outgrown" Cowboy Bebop and moved on to other things. But I rewatched Jupiter Jazz and yeah it still owns, Gren owns. This and the fact that one specific scene with Faye can still make me cry has made me a lot less "Pffft, Bebop"
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Expect My Mom posted:I consistently think that I've "outgrown" Cowboy Bebop and moved on to other things. But I rewatched Jupiter Jazz and yeah it still owns, Gren owns. This and the fact that one specific scene with Faye can still make me cry has made me a lot less "Pffft, Bebop" Which scene? 'Anything but blue' is the one that gets to me, but I can think of a couple candidates.
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Mar 8, 2018 07:52
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it's the videotape from Speak Like A Child, though that one is good too
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Mar 8, 2018 13:26
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Expect My Mom posted:it's the videotape from Speak Like A Child, though that one is good too  Also maybe spoilers for bogo.
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Mar 8, 2018 13:52
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Man I dont even remember Fayes backstory, maybe I should watch Bebop again
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I like Jupiter Jazz. The way Jet pulls out the radio to call back a bounty and then it's like "oh yeah..." 
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Mar 9, 2018 00:42
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Question: Was Bebop written originally for American audiences? I ask because the beginning and the end of Jupiter Jazz feature what appears to me to be a native American character. Or is the native American archetype so recognizable that the character makes sense to non-American audiences? Thanks. About to watch Bohemian Rhapsody. I'll be back.
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bogoodski posted:Question: nope. Watanabe developed it with another Japanese series as inspiration (Lupin the III) and it just happened that his desire to create a sophisticated show with an adult sensibility fit really well into the niche anime had previously carved in the west. native american characters (or at least characters in native american clothing) do appear in anime/manga before Bebop as well. characters like Bora and Oopa from Dragonball and Walken from Baoh (both early 80's series) are some of the first to come to mind, but i'm certain you could find examples further back.
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dogsicle posted:nope. Watanabe developed it with another Japanese series as inspiration (Lupin the III) and it just happened that his desire to create a sophisticated show with an adult sensibility fit really well into the niche anime had previously carved in the west. native american characters (or at least characters in native american clothing) do appear in anime/manga before Bebop as well. characters like Bora and Oopa from Dragonball and Walken from Baoh (both early 80's series) are some of the first to come to mind, but i'm certain you could find examples further back. Cool. As I thought about this question more, it occurred to me that it was sort of naive of me, given that most all of the characters are western, that the native American would be the one unrecognizable to a foreign audience. It's interesting (to me, at least) to really think about how little of a frame of reference I have for understanding an outsider's perspective of American culture. Bohemian Rhapsody's playful nature had the perfect tone to follow up and counter Jupiter Jazz's emotional gut punch. Ed has been a fun addition. The best part of the series, so far, has been experiencing the individual characters develop their own uniqueness. Each of the characters is as compelling as Spike. Which I would have never guessed back in episode one when he was the clear protagonist.
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dogsicle posted:ease of/legality of acquisition are worth considering when it comes to a recommendation but for something like Evangelion it would be laughable to expect someone to shell out cash for inflated OOP discs that give no money to any of the rights holders. worrying too much about methods of acquisition is a good way to break rules and rule out fantastic shows and films similarly, the sooner you get used to watching subs the sooner you can watch things that are either real old and didn't get dubbed or real new and didn't get simultaneous English releases
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dogsicle posted:nope. Watanabe developed it with another Japanese series as inspiration (Lupin the III) and it just happened that his desire to create a sophisticated show with an adult sensibility fit really well into the niche anime had previously carved in the west. native american characters (or at least characters in native american clothing) do appear in anime/manga before Bebop as well. characters like Bora and Oopa from Dragonball and Walken from Baoh (both early 80's series) are some of the first to come to mind, but i'm certain you could find examples further back. Also sandman/soundman from jojo’s bizarre adventure
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dogsicle posted:nope. Watanabe developed it with another Japanese series as inspiration (Lupin the III) and it just happened that his desire to create a sophisticated show with an adult sensibility fit really well into the niche anime had previously carved in the west. native american characters (or at least characters in native american clothing) do appear in anime/manga before Bebop as well. characters like Bora and Oopa from Dragonball and Walken from Baoh (both early 80's series) are some of the first to come to mind, but i'm certain you could find examples further back. edit: double post. Watch jojo’s bizarre adventure
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Soundman is a character from 2004, so I don't think he works as an example. Also Japan isn't completely foreign to the concept, as they also have indigenous people, the Ainu. And there has been way more Native American representation in Japanese media than there ever has Ainu representation in Western media.
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at the very least, both Walken and Soundman were created by Araki. not really surprising that an author who is really into western media would've picked up native american iconography. you could say similar of Toriyama since Bora and Oopa exist in the same world as a knock-off Terminator.
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Mar 9, 2018 15:46
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Golden Kamui is really good and is getting an anime soon. It heavily features Ainu characters and the author has a legit Ainu historian as a consultant to keep it accurate.
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God, I can't even fathom a golden kamui anime. Like, basically every single chapter has horrifically detailed, gratuitous violence or sexual imagery, decapitation and dismemberment, just...lots of that stuff all the time. It's a fantastic series beyond all that, but still, it boggles my mind that it will have a TV anime
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