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gay picnic defence: Oct 5, 2009; I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

froglet posted:

Not a joke question, but... What could the union's actually do if he put it out there that coal needs to die. I mean, they can't join the libs, they'd get screwed over, and the greens would agree with that statement...

He'd lose the support of the factional hacks aligned to that union, and probably get rumbled for someone more spineless.

I would have thought it would be better for the workers if we made a planned, controlled break from coal mining with a large series of infrastructure projects to take in the affected workers (because the alternative is a sudden closure of mines as coal prices collapse), and I would have thought that if it was good for the workers then the union would be right behind it. But while I support the union movement I'd not be surprised in the slightest if there was some powerbroker at the top of the CFMEU or whoever who doesn't want that to happen because it might mean people joining a different union, which would cost that person influence.

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 01:20

hiddenmovement: Sep 29, 2011; "Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

froglet posted:

The strange thing is he might win if he just says "coal is hosed and we need to find new industries for people to work in. Let's say no to Adani and instead yes to [some random clean energy industry].".

People are okay with bad news if you follow it up with "but we'll do X instead".

For examples of how well this works in real life see:

Clinton, Hillary

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Beffer: Sep 25, 2007

So does anyone have the image from Cash's phone which Chris Uhlmann showed and and the Government are going beserk about?

# ? Mar 2, 2018 21:09

Intoluene: Jul 6, 2011; Activating self-destruct sequence!; Fun Shoe

Beffer posted:

So does anyone have the image from Cash's phone which Chris Uhlmann showed and and the Government are going beserk about?

Here ya go.

https://twitter.com/vanOnselenP/status/969111087105810432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2F

# ? Mar 2, 2018 21:22

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

hiddenmovement posted:

For examples of how well this works in real life see:

Clinton, Hillary

hillary�s problem wasn�t the lack of an alternative vision but that it wasn�t communicated clearly and her complete lack of charisma and likeability

very unlike shorten

wait

# ? Mar 2, 2018 22:53

Capt.Whorebags: Jan 10, 2005

Hillary had a stellar campaign organisation and very well nuanced policies. The media treated her like a seasoned political campaigner and held her to a level of scrutiny that they didn't bother with for her rodeo clown opponent. In that kind of environment complicated policy statements don't stand a chance. Trump said whatever the gently caress he wanted and the story would run as a funny piece on how outrageous he is.

# ? Mar 2, 2018 23:04

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

The US election was also a great example of how much power legacy media has lost when it comes to influencing election outcomes.

Anyone propping up unprofitable propaganda rags (nobody comes to mind) will stop the moment those assets can no longer deliver. They aren't done yet but the graves are being dug.

# ? Mar 2, 2018 23:07

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

Capt.Whorebags posted:

Hillary had a stellar campaign organisation

hm. well,

# ? Mar 3, 2018 00:04

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

She had the most annoying apparatchiks from not only America, but across the globe working for her.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 00:18

Capt.Whorebags: Jan 10, 2005

Yeah fair cop, I shouldn't imply that it led to great outcomes. What I mean is that it was extremely well resourced, relied heavily on data and expert positions and was well organised to mobilise support etc. It couldn't compete with fear and a twitter handle.

Although she did win the popular vote.

Personally I would rather have seen Bernie win, but failing that, Hillary was fine by me.

Sorry about the USPol derail.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 00:34

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Starshark posted:

I don't know much about international economics and the ABC article on this subject is annoying horseshit - what are the consequences for the US of Trump's tariffs on steel and aluminium?

I'm not a studied expert on the current American manufacturing or agricultural economy but in general terms:

Domestically (USA) - Everything that has steel or aluminium in it just got more expensive to buy. Manufacturers in the US will suffer (eg) Car manufacturers will face the choice of passing on the cost and becoming even less competitive or being less profitable. America's most protected sector, agriculture, will face a hostile export market and require more subsidy. So in a single motion the US cost of living just went up significantly placing pressure on inflation while simultaneously depressing several key sectors of the economy severely and only lightly damaging all the rest. In most countries if you could do a single thing that would have the exact opposite effect people would be falling over themselves to achieve it and take the credit.

Internationally - Lol. The biggest own goal in the entire history of globalisation. All of the subtle (but significant) stuff the US was trying to envoke in trade agreements to protect America's biggest commercial assets will be ignored or repudiated. Current trade deals can safely be torn up (The US just broke a bunch of them). New deals will be negotiated in an environment of the utmost hostility.

This was the pie to the face with a complimentary bucket of white wash down the trousers all to protect a bunch of aging oligarchs who didn't invest in better production techniques when it would have mattered most. Steel production is 0.3% of US GDP and shrinking (Source https://www.statista.com/statistics/191961/value-added-by-us-primary-metal-manufacturing-as-a-percentage-of-gdp/) They are(were) THE BIGGEST importer of steel ( 26.9 million tonnes PA verses a domestic output of 6.7 million tonnes PA)

# ? Mar 3, 2018 00:41

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Hillary couldn�t even enunciate what her policies were in a debate she literally told people to go to her website to see them instead of telling the tens of millions of people watching live

# ? Mar 3, 2018 00:51

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Birdstrike posted:

Hillary couldn�t even enunciate what her policies were in a debate she literally told people to go to her website to see them instead of telling the tens of millions of people watching live

Gotta get the likes shares and subscribes mate

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:07

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Solemn Sloth posted:

Gotta get the likes shares and subscribes mate

Leave a comment on my webzone and I�ll send you a pizza roll

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:17

thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

good luck to the people of tasmania today!

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:19

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

thatbastardken posted:

good luck to the people of tasmania today!

They're going to need it.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:25

Elissimpark: May 20, 2010; Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Voted in Braddon - not even a democracy sausage for consolation.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 01:49

Korgan: Feb 14, 2012

Elissimpark posted:

Voted in Braddon - not even a democracy sausage for consolation.

That's a bloody outrage

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Elissimpark: May 20, 2010; Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

On the plus side, no gauntlet of people handing out how-to-vote cards.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:06

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:09

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

Capt.Whorebags posted:

and very well nuanced policies.

Very nuanced centrist/neolib policies that did not captivate the imagination of the public.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:18

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Elissimpark posted:

Voted in Braddon - not even a democracy sausage for consolation.

SMDH if you don't check snagvotes before you attend to your democratic responsibilities.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:30

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Capt.Whorebags posted:

Yeah fair cop, I shouldn't imply that it led to great outcomes. What I mean is that it was extremely well resourced, relied heavily on data and expert positions and was well organised to mobilise support etc. It couldn't compete with fear and a twitter handle.

On the other hand she basically ignored places like Wisconsin.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:32

Intoluene: Jul 6, 2011; Activating self-destruct sequence!; Fun Shoe

Elissimpark posted:

On the plus side, no gauntlet of people handing out how-to-vote cards.

Wait, there's places without a fuckton of people handing out how to vote cards?

To be fair, I live in Dobell, a very marginal seat for federal elections.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:33

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Elissimpark posted:

Voted in Braddon - not even a democracy sausage for consolation.

Denison. My democracy sausage was actually two sausages smothered with onions and chutney, lovingly hugged by fresh pita bread.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:35

Les Affaires: Nov 15, 2004

Elissimpark posted:

On the plus side, no gauntlet of people handing out how-to-vote cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPKNX1oWyw

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:35

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

what on earth are the shillerymen doing in here

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:49

Capt.Whorebags: Jan 10, 2005

Milky Moor posted:

what on earth are the shillerymen doing in here

Sitting in a darkened room, crafting posts out of my own excrement and furious that not only did Trump win, Trumbull thinks he's got some great ideas.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 02:57

ass frog: Feb 28, 2018; by Smythe

why is nobody mentioning the true nsw crisis of the moment, which is that according to my sources the city of newcastle is completely out of weed

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:06

Les Affaires: Nov 15, 2004

Wouldn't that represent a unique business opportunity then

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:09

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Milky Moor posted:

what on earth are the shillerymen doing in here

The circle jerk thread in GBS is the same group of She Speaks For Me hillfolk insiders reposting the same things every day non stop.

I guess they're desperately craving validation or something. On SA of all places. And Auspol at that.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:10

Senor Tron: May 26, 2006

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/sally-zou-tweets-image-of-cheque-to-sa-liberals/9504732

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:11

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

I read this so you have to as well

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# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:11

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

rear end frog posted:

why is nobody mentioning the true nsw crisis of the moment, which is that according to my sources the city of newcastle is completely out of weed

Doritos stock plummets.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:15

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

rear end frog posted:

why is nobody mentioning the true nsw crisis of the moment, which is that according to my sources the city of newcastle is completely out of weed

Then what the hell is my nephew smoking?

He reckons he's got a huge plant out the back. Might have a wander later and see if he's making that up or not.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 03:59

Beffer: Sep 25, 2007

Intoluene posted:

Here ya go.

https://twitter.com/vanOnselenP/status/969111087105810432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.somethingawful.com%2F

Good of PvO to name check the thread.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 04:00

Konomex: Oct 25, 2010; a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Doctor Spaceman posted:

I read this so you have to as well

Dear Michaelia,

I am a creature of the night, a prowler of the darkness. I abhor the sound of machinery, of industrialisation, of work and toil. I crave the stillness of the wind whistling through slow-turning blades. I long for total blackness, everywhere. Am I normal? Jay, SA.

That last one there made me laugh. The rest were weirdly creepy.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 04:05

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

# ? Mar 3, 2018 04:08

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

DancingShade posted:

The circle jerk thread in GBS is the same group of She Speaks For Me hillfolk insiders reposting the same things every day non stop.

I guess they're desperately craving validation or something. On SA of all places. And Auspol at that.

What the he'll are you even talking about you loving weirdo :fuckoff:

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Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Intoluene posted:

Wait, there's places without a fuckton of people handing out how to vote cards?

To be fair, I live in Dobell, a very marginal seat for federal elections.

Handing out how to vote cards outside the polling booth is illegal in Tasmania for state elections.

# ? Mar 3, 2018 04:17

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