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The best Bond is Roger Moore. Even his name is a double-entendre. Plus he generally fights goofy pantomime villains with cartoony plots to take over the world, which is far more entertaining than the job of real British spies: to maintain and enforce the remnants of British imperialist rule at all costs through violence, corruption and the suffering of innocents.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2018 23:08 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 07:57 |
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peekaboo gangster posted:It's been a few years since I've watched GoldenEye, so I might have to go back and re-evaluate it, but I just remember it leaving a bad taste in my mouth (and ears, good God almighty the soundtrack is trash). I only recently discovered that Arnold's score for the ice palace car chase in Die Another Day, which sounds really weedy and underwhelming on screen, was mullered in the mix. The original version has a big techno underpinning, which makes it a lot more propulsive, that's been completely erased in the actual movie.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2018 15:57 |
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Lord Hydronium posted:Timothy Dalton as a Bond villain would be goddamn amazing.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2018 22:24 |
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Cacator posted:Craig has one more movie left. I read the script recently because I was sure I must have forgotten some explanation of how Blofeld could possibly have orchestrated everything that happened to Bond in the previous films as part of some master plan to torment his "brother". Nope; they really did just go "yes, it was all me!" and leave it at that.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 08:34 |
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Skyfall seemed to come too soon. We went from Bond's first mission, directly followed by his second mission in QoS... then suddenly he's a washed-up, jaded, self-doubting burnout who fails miserably at everything he does. Fifth or sixth film, maybe, but the third? Also, Silva's such a mastermind planner that he knows to the second when he can drop a loving tube train on Bond and exactly where and when M will be attending a secret government hearing despite having been locked in an isolation cell, but he didn't foresee that she might leave him to die on a mission where he was given a literal suicide pill. What was he expecting?
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2018 17:57 |
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How Purvis and Wade have kept their writing gig on the series (everything from TWINE onwards) when all their scripts have been flawed at best and poo poo at worst is a mystery.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2018 22:46 |
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Bond escaping the base in Spectre was basically 'aimbot LOL'. It has to be the most tension-free action sequence in the entire series, because Bond is acting as if he's invulnerable and knows it. "I'll just stroll about in the open and headshot multiple guys shooting at me from 100 yards away, tum-ti-tum." Even loving Commando at least had Arnold acting as if he was in some peril. Of course, there is the Total Recall theory that Bond was lobotomised by Blofeld, and everything that happens in the third act is his mind's last desperate attempt to save itself by coming up with a ridiculously OTT scenario where he wins over insane odds one last time... Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Mar 11, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 11, 2018 16:12 |
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Timby posted:That's ... not a goon thing. The only thing Moonraker has going for it is Ken Adam's production design
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2018 16:57 |
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Barudak posted:Based on the last three or so Bond films having a finished script and vision is a unecessary Since Cubby Broccoli died, and more so than ever in the Craig era, it feels like too many people get to put ingredients into the blender, so it ends up with a bunch of fingertips mixed in.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 12:58 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, have you read those James Bond novels? They're great wee thrillers, but you have to hold your nose a bit when you get to the part in Goldfinger where Bond muses about how much he hates Koreans etc.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 15:14 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:By the way (and I'm sorry that this has nothing whatsoever to do with your post), I don't suppose you'd have the link to your Department S blog close to hand? On an actual Bond note, I was in Venice last year and looked for the spot where Roger Moore drove his hover-gondola out of the water and up into St Mark's Square. Sad to report, it's physically impossible - there are steps running up the quayside, but no ramps (and on a re-viewing I realised just how carefully they framed the shot so you couldn't really see what was underneath the boat; they built a ramp for it). A Roger Moore Bond movie lied to me! I feel like part of my childhood has been murdered...
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 23:39 |
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"Blofeld is Bond's stepbrother and he's been working secretly for years to humiliate and destroy him!" was a load of bollocks. Way too many potential points of failure: what if Le Chiffre or the warlord guy or Quantum or Jools Holland or Silva or any one of the hundreds of other people ultimately working for Blofeld who tried to kill Bond had actually succeeded? Hell, what if Moneypenny had hit a few inches across and shot him in the heart? Blofeld would have looked a bit of a twat, all his long-rehearsed speeches going to waste. I thought Silva's Joker-style super-mega-hyper-masterminding was bullshit, and Spectre doubled down on it by adding a layer of ultra-masterminding on top. Yeah, Blofeld is a smart guy, but don't have him predicting Bond's actions to the micron from the flap of a butterfly's wing on the other side of the world twenty years earlier.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 23:12 |
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The original teaser. I thought this about as perfect a reintroduction to Bond after a gap of several years as you could get; the full trailer had an ultra-cheesy voiceover and gave way too much away.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 11:41 |
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Best unused Bond theme: https://youtu.be/h6CoNUE5Zho (From the director of Attack The Block.)
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2018 21:04 |
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Goldfinger, Live And Let Die, Nobody Does It Better, A View To A Kill, You Know My Name... and the rest.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2018 00:09 |
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Timby posted:I'll give you Skyfall, but Writing's On The Wall was literally a demo take and it's loving awful. It might actually edge Die Another Day for worst theme.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 09:10 |
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All I can remember about The Eiger Sanction is that at one point a corpse wrapped up in blankets like a mummy rolls cartoonishly down a cliff, and teenage me thought it was the funniest thing ever.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2018 11:49 |
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Neo Rasa posted:The part where Bond accidentally ruins a fake moon landing shoot (???) and the guys in the astronaut outfits try to chase after him briefly but keep in character and so in a slow floaty way like they're in space is awesome. The disturbing thing about DAF is that MI6 is basically sending Bond to act as a Pinkerton for De Beers. gently caress De Beers. Apropos of astronauts, in a movie filled with craziness, possibly the most outrageous thing about Moonraker is that within about two minutes of the space station's radar jammer failing, the US launches a fully-prepped shuttle full of laser-toting Space Marines. That's a quick response!
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# ¿ May 20, 2018 22:34 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:This will also be (as far as I'm aware) the first Bond movie in 20 years not to have been written or had writing work done on it by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. Just so long as whoever's writing it instead doesn't fall down the same turd-filled well of "I'm a [FRANCHISE] fan who gets to write a [FRANCHISE] movie, yay!" (see: Bond, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc) and make the whole thing into an ourouboros of references to stuff we've already seen.
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# ¿ May 26, 2018 23:50 |
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AFewBricksShy posted:I think the best Moore is the Spy Who Loved Me. I recently did a watch of the entire series, and I think it holds up pretty drat well. The Moore films are pretty much their own unique continuum compared to the rest of the series, really, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 21:13 |
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nemesis_hub posted:I don’t know why people keep bringing up Nolan as a potential director. I like some of his movies a lot but he really sucks at action. Mind you, that's exactly how I felt about the action in Skyfall and Spectre. Beautifully shot, but doesn't excite.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2018 09:34 |
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Goldfinger (2022). In which Auric Goldfinger (Emma Stone) manipulates the value of Bitcoin to cause a cryptocurrency crash and massively boost the value of her own stocks of gold and colloidal silver, by planting a neutron EMP weapon inside the NSA. Bond (Daniel Craig, paid $65 million to reprise the role one more time) defeats her with his fists and a series of tired, sarcastic-sounding sighs and grunts that in the script were gold-themed one-liners. Directed by somebody currently in high school who will make one kinda-well-received indie movie before being installed as a puppet by Eon, the stunt coordinators and second-unit directors, and an uncredited but well-compensated for his creative input Daniel Craig.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 23:31 |
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Purvis and Wade again? Have they got some kind of "no one knows James Bond as well as us" mojo going on, or just a really good agent?
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2018 16:20 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 07:57 |
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Gaius Marius posted:They've proven they can get a goddamn movie out, which no one else seems to be able to do.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2018 23:20 |