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Fart City posted:I don't buy into the whole "James Bond is a code name" theory, but my god, how awesome would it be to have the villain of a Bond flick be an actual James Bond. And I'm not talking Alec Trevelyn; I'm talking full-on real-deal James Bond as a bad guy fighting a newer, younger James Bond. Like, imagine if it was Lazenby or Dalton; the dudes who got shafted by circumstance and timing. Connery was briefly considered for the villain role in GoldenEye, and he was slated for the caretaker role in Skyfall before he told them to gently caress off.
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Payndz posted:Craig saying that he wants to do one more Bond because he wants to "go out on a high note" made me smile, because it makes it very clear that even the star thought Spectre wasn't one. Craig's had a really, really miserable time on two of his four movies. Quantum of Solace was a second-draft script that they were shooting, and eventually Forster and Craig were rewriting the drat thing themselves in-between takes. On Spectre, they went into filming with a script that was being rewritten daily on the set, and Craig shredded his knee filming a fight scene (and he also tore his rotator cuff on either Quantum or Skyfall). And holy moly, that original script for Spectre is utterly unbelievable in how terrible it is.
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peekaboo gangster posted:The original script is worse than "I'm the author of all your pain, James?" Oh, yes. -- Blofeld was a woman, who gets literally shot in the head, in cold blood, by Bond (Barbara Broccoli gave "fire and fury" a new definition when she read this) -- Tanner was in cahoots with C and Blofeld (and at one point Q was, as well) -- M gets kidnapped multiple times -- The script was written explicitly as Bond's retirement mission (Broccoli also threw a fit at this, as did Amy Pascal) -- There's literally a 20-minute highway chase scene in the third act -- The evil SPECTRE plan is to cause a blackout during a NATO event in England (uh...), but Bond has a magic document that will reveal C's involvement with Blofeld and expose the false-flag conspiracy It was a disaster, Sony was like "uh, dudes, we can't shoot this, this is terrible," so they were rewriting on-set through essentially the entire production.
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Mantis42 posted:(seriously, Goons put Moonraker and A View to a Kill at the bottom?!) That's ... not a goon thing. The only thing Moonraker has going for it is Ken Adam's production design (it's basically the best and only preview of what he would have done on Star Trek: Planet of the Titans), and A View to a Kill is an absolute mess outside of Walken and the theme song. Moore didn't even want to do it, feeling that he was too old for the role, but he was under contract and they wouldn't let him out. He was also absolutely horrified when he learned that not only was Tanya Roberts almost 30 years younger than him, he was actually older than her mother, and he begged the producers to re-cast the role to be more age-appropriate. He didn't win that battle, either.
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The rather in-your-face racism is kind of an issue with Live and Let Die, as well.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Mostly agree with this, except that opening car chase kinda sucks. I remember reading somewhere that they initially filmed three cars chasing Bond, per the script, but then cut it down to two in editing? This is correct, yes.
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Dyna Soar posted:i hope they never make a bond movie with a black or a female bond I don't know that they'll ever go with a woman as Bond, but I have to imagine they'll look very closely at options other than "attractive white guy" when they replace Craig after this movie.
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Elba has also said he has zero interest in taking the role at this time, because all the focus would be on "the first black Bond" rather than his actual performance.
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They don't even have a director or script for the next movie, I imagine they're going to be focused more on that and they'll worry about casting in 2020.
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Aces High posted:Wasn't Brosnan well known? I thought Remington Steele was a huge hit Yeah, Remington Steele made him a star; Brosnan was the original choice to replace Roger Moore but then NBC renewed the show for another year so he couldn't get out of his contract.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I wonder if Eon will ever drop Purvis and Wade. They've been writing or co-writing these things since TWINE. Isn't John Hodge developing the story idea Boyle had?
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esperterra posted:e: i should probably get around to watching spectre one of these days There are far better ways to waste two and a half hours. Like, I don't know, burping Tupperware.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's weird that it says "own yourself because no one else here will save you" when James Bond has always constantly been saved by his girls when he loses fights It's "arm yourself." Also, the lyrics to Bond theme songs are almost never literal nor do they apply to the movie.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The best song, Goldfinger Nah.
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Steve2911 posted:No matter how good Goldeneye is I just can't take Brosnan seriously in that role. He's just far too cheesy. He belongs on the cover of lovely romance novels and nowhere else. In the last Bond megathread, someone described Brosnan as a "greatest hits" Bond rather than really having his own approach, which is pretty much bang on the money.
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Gatts posted:Skyfall and Spectre feel more a return to form of classic Bond I'll give you Skyfall, but Writing's On The Wall was literally a demo take and it's loving awful. It might actually edge Die Another Day for worst theme.
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Yeah, Bond is weirdly celibate in QoS; I think he finally sleeps with Strawberry Fields and then finds her covered in motor oil in that ham-fisted Goldfinger callback, but besides that he keeps it in his pants.
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Natural 20 posted:I just don't get Casino Royale. Wait, what? It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but Le Chiffre goes heads-up with Bond, both have ridiculously implausible hands, and Bond's is better. Mathis spends his time explaining the play to Vesper (and the audience), and it's revealed in Quantum of Solace that Le Chiffre falsely identified Mathis as a traitor and MI6 paid him off as a result.
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Natural 20 posted:So events as I remember: Le Chiffre and Felix Leiter are totally different characters, friend. Edit: That's part of why the poker stuff is the worst part of the movie. Leiter's all "I'm bleeding chips and won't last long" and that's why he re-stakes Bond.
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CelticPredator posted:Goldfinger is the quintessential Bond film regardless how you feel about it. Nah. Goldfinger is rapey as hell and it doesn't really tell a good story. The go-tos are From Russia With Love and GoldenEye and I suppose maybe Casino Royale.
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Fart City posted:Maybe someone here can help me out. A couple of years ago, before Daniel Craig was cast as Bond but after Beosnan left the role, EA was still trying to be in the business of Bond games. They released stuff like From Russia With Love and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent around that time. Right before Craig was given the role, they announced that they were going to make a new, original Bond game, and had even gone so far as to “cast” Bond with an actual actor. He wasn’t a known-name, but looked dead on the illustrations used in the Fleming books. And it wasn’t the model they used for Agent Under Fire; this was like an actual dude with a headshot and everything. Andrew Bicknell, a British character actor with a pretty grizzled visage, did the facial capture.  However he was voiced by Adam Blackwood, who had provided the voice of Bond since The World is Not Enough. And actually, I believe Bicknell was going to have his face used again in Everything or Nothing, then Brosnan re-upped to do Die Another Day, the contract of which covered a video game.
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Vagabundo posted:She has reservations about Idris Elba as Bond as a result, because we won't get enough of him as Bond. He's not getting any younger, after all. Idris Elba has said he won't do it; he'd love to play the part, but he fears--rightfully so--that he would be judged more as "the first black Bond" rather than just "Bond."
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Violator posted:Release November 2019. Doesn’t seem like a lot of time for production, but I always expect two years for a big budget film. That's been kind of a thing for the Craig Bonds. Skyfall began shooting in November 2011 for an October 2012 release; Spectre began production in December 2014 for an October 2015 release. Wheat Loaf posted:This will also be (as far as I'm aware) the first Bond movie in 20 years not to have been written or had writing work done on it by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. Give it time, I'm sure Barbara Broccoli will call them in to do on-set rewrites or some poo poo. Jose Oquendo posted:Well this is interesting . Yeah, the Annapurna deal for domestic distribution was announced a few months ago but there was a pretty fierce bidding war for the international rights, as Sony's distribution deal expired after Spectre. Sony, Universal, WB, Fox and Amazon were reportedly all in the running, with Amazon dropping out a while back.
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Ulio posted:Just came in here after watching Dr No for the first time. drat these movies have aged incredibly well. Not slow like some of the 60s movies. Yeah, you just really, really, really have to put blinders on the rather blatant misogyny and how casually rapey Bond is.
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Egbert Souse posted:Already calling it that Tom Hooper directs Bond 25 That would be one way to guarantee I never see the movie in a theater. I got the worst goddamn headache during loving Les Mis.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Recently I heard that one of the creative differences cited as a reason for Boyle's departure was disagreement with Daniel Craig over the casting a Russian villain. Does Craig have Tom Cruise-like influence behind-the-scenes? Pretty much. He can veto a director and he can veto a script. They gave him a metric fuckton of money to do Bond 25.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Like I've said before, while Idris Elba would be very good, he has never been my first choice because I just think he'd be much too similar to Craig. Elba more than anyone else gets saddled with the "I will suggest him because he is the only black British actor I have heard of" thing, unfortunately, but I didn't think I was doing that. Plus, as he's repeated several times, Elba has absolutely no desire to replace Craig: He doesn't want his performance to be judged as "the first black Bond," he wants it to be judged as "James Bond," which he is very smart enough to know wouldn't happen. (I imagine the constant poo poo he took for getting cast as Heimdall also turned him off from doing franchise stuff.)
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DrVenkman posted:Deadline just announced that Daniel Craig and Rian Johnson are shooting a movie in November. When was Bond due to start shooting, before Boyle walked obviously. Apparently Johnson's new movie is called Knives Out; it's a murder mystery, the script was distributed at the Toronto International Film Festival last night to open bidding. I guess that means Bond 25 is genuinely on indefinite hold.
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Fart City posted:And, more specifically, so I can see a live action version of this Oddjob: But Jon Polito is dead. 
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CelticPredator posted:I want to see Ben Winshaw’s Q but not directed like he’s super sleepy because we can’t have silly Bond any more. He was fine in Skyfall. He was loving terrible in Spectre, but then again so was almost everyone else.
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