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Basebf555 posted:The opener to Spectre really was something to see on the big screen, up there with some of the best openings in the whole series. I don't dislike the movie overall, but I don't think it ever topped that first 10 minutes. The movie definitely peaked for me there, and I found myself getting quite restless and disengaged as the film went on. I'd say it would have worked far better with the focus being put on Mr. Hinx as the primary antagonist, making him Bane to Bond's Batman, with a runtime of about 100~120 minutes. What's the consensus on the whole "Bond and Blofeld were step-brothers!" angle? I loving hated it. I'd have preferred Blofeld's role to be much smaller, preferably as the guy who sics Hinx on to Bond, and as an overall malevolent presence that Bond knows he's going to have to take down sooner or later, rather than having that entire showdown at the end that, to me, felt rather tacked on. I also didn't like that Madeleine Swann as reduced to a crying damsel in distress, which felt particularly egregious when it happened in the same calender year as Furiosa and Rey.
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I'd like to see what someone like Kathryn Bigelow, or an up-and-coming director like Roseanne Liang could make of a Bond film.Payndz posted:I thought Silva's Joker-style super-mega-hyper-masterminding was bullshit, and Spectre doubled down on it by adding a layer of ultra-masterminding on top. Yeah, Blofeld is a smart guy, but don't have him predicting Bond's actions to the micron from the flap of a butterfly's wing on the other side of the world twenty years earlier. I also felt like Skyfall was a great commentary on the Bond franchise's relevance in an age where action film franchises were being increasingly dominated by superhero films (the golden standard at the time, of course, being The Dark Knight - it arguably still is, to be honest), like it was saying "gently caress your Batmans and Iron Mans, I'm still relevant, goddamnit!" I particularly love the scene where Q and Bond have a discussion at the art gallery about a painting of the old battleship being hauled away for scrap. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Mar 22, 2018 |
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Jeb! Repetition posted:This opening song is bad even by the extremely low standards of 007 opening songs I pretty much disengaged with the film because of that song and it never really recovered for me. It keeps building towards something, only to peter off, and amounts to nothing. Like, how can a Bond theme song be so loving boring?
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Natural 20 posted:I think it's because at the time I thought Felix and Mathis were the same person.   My god, they could be twins!
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R. Guyovich posted:dr no and from russia with love should be in everyone's top five imo. goldfinger is bad Importance and influence is not an indicator of quality, and there's no way you can argue Goldfinger didn't influence and shape the remainder of the Bond series.
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May 21, 2018 05:47
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The Moore years did produce a couple of great Bond films (specifically Live and Let Die and The Spy Who Loved Me) but the majority of them don't really stack up. I can't see the really lovely Moore Bonds getting any sort of contemporary re-evaluation either.
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May 21, 2018 07:27
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Moonraker is garbage.
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May 21, 2018 08:20
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Was that where Bond chucks Blofeld down a chimney or whatever?
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May 21, 2018 10:47
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Basebf555 posted:Yea I'd love to see them cast an age appropriate actor for the role and actually do a run of "early Bond" stories. Get somebody in the 25-30 range who can actually grow into the role instead of being too old after the first sequel. I have a friend who is adamant that the ideal age-range for a Bond actor is mid-30s to mid-40s. She has reservations about Idris Elba as Bond as a result, because we won't get enough of him as Bond. He's not getting any younger, after all.
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May 23, 2018 08:20
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esperterra posted:God, I would have loved a Clive Owen Bond. Quick, name all the Bonds that could have been but never were, that have now been lost to the sands of time. Sean Bean Bond Clive Owen Bond Henry Cavill Bond James Garner Bond? I actually wonder how that would have turned out, to be honest.
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Sorry, yeah, I was thinking about James Brolin. Brolin, Garner, they're basically the same person, right? Also, considering how Liam Neeson's career turned out like 10 years later, I wonder what sort of Bond he'd have made.
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May 23, 2018 10:02
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Why not someone like Jeremy Saulnier, Patty Jenkins or Kathryn Bigelow?
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Aug 21, 2018 18:53
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You're thinking this wrong: make a famous trans actress like Laverne Cox the new Bond girl and imply that she's the one that boffed him up the bum. Like, you see him necking with the Bond girl and in the next scene, he walks into M's office, has a funny shuffle to his walk and when he sits down, he pauses for a second before sitting properly. M: Rough night? Bond: I suppose it was, yes. The vitriol that this will generate from alt-right douches and people with lovely opinions to a deadline like Katie Hopkins will be absolutely hilarious.
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I re-watched Casino Royale on a plane recently, and IMO, it definitely still holds up, but my main gripe with it still holds true as well: I could not give any less of a gently caress about poker (or card games in general), don't care to learn, don't want to learn, and I have absolutely zero interest in it whatsoever, and quite frankly, I find all discussion of poker to be tedious as gently caress - consequently, that entire poker tournament is a chore to get through, but things do pick up considerably right away once those shenanigans are done.
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Aug 22, 2018 08:26
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Love to see Kathryn Bigelow or Doug Liman direct a Bond film. Or does it have to be a European/British/Commonwealth citizen? In which case, why not Toa Fraser or Roseanne Liang? edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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The Moore Bonds, with one or two exceptions, are absolute gutter trash and aren't worth the poo poo on the wad of toilet paper I've wiped my butt with.Mantis42 posted:James Bond Radio is pretty good but there's like 40 minutes of trivia questions at the beginning and end of every episode, its ridiculous. It's not unusual for this to happen, especially when there's a comedy element to the podcast. Just look at How Did This Get Made, where the hosts spend the entire time shouting their "funny" and "amusing" bits over each the top of each other and repeat the same joke about 10,000 times in a row, while leaning way too hard into their gimmicks, like June Diane Raphael being annoyingly oblivious about the movie they would be talking about, if they weren't just endlessly screaming their haha-larious riffs and interrupting each other.
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Dalton was probably ahead of his time and was the victim of an awkward transition between Moore and Brosnan. License to Kill loving owns though.
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The film felt bloated and overlong, with 2 or 3 plots all crammed in that could've been their own film. I also took particular umbrage with the fact that Dr Swann oscillated wildly between Scrappy Doo and a generic damsel in distress that ultimately needs big ol' swinging dick Jimbo Bond to come rescue her because "wimmin, amirite, brose?" which I felt was particularly egregious when it was in the same calendar year as Rey and Furiosa's respective films. That bullshit is bad enough, but it just stood out even more because of that. I felt that Mr. Hinx was particularly underused, and Dave Bautista's subsequent work has shown us how much of a charismatic and engaging presence he can be onscreen, so to have him be a generic ME BIG ME CRUSH YOU type character that is almost entirely mute felt like a wasted opportunity. You could almost say the same about the Denbigh and the Nine Eyes plot too. Like, you could have split that film into two, and fleshed out the respective plots. 1. Introduce the Nine Eyes plot and leave it in the background, as Bond refocuses on the Quantum organisation, and uncovers Spectre operating above it, with Mr. Hinx as the main villain of the film (if Silva was Joker to Bond's Batman, you could characterise Hinx as being akin to Bane - a skilled intelligence agent, who is smart and ruthless, but he is also considerably stronger than Bond). Blofeld is revealed late in the film as the mastermind behind Spectre, and the guy that Mr White has to answer to. 2. Focus the plot on Nine Eyes and Denbigh as a front for Spectre to infiltrate and take over the MI6, leading to a confrontation between Bond and Blofeld. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all, but cramming all that poo poo into 1 overlong movie just didn't do anyone any favours. I'd also like to add stuff like Blofeld going "I was behind EVERYTHING from Casino Royale onwards, mwa-ha-haaaa!" and "it turns out we're (step)brothers" just made me groan "aw gently caress off" at an appropriate volume at the movie theatre. Seriously, gently caress off with that poo poo. I mean, why do it? It just creates an unnecessary wrinkle to what should've been a straight-forward rivalry between the two characters. Like, would Die Hard be improved if it turned out John McClane and Hans Gruber turn out to be second cousins once removed? I think the lovely theme song pretty much put a damper on the film for me. It's such a dull song that I think I pretty much disengaged right away because of it. Basebf555 posted:Yea, but it's not only that. The whole idea of Joker being this dark reflection of Batman, that the same system that created Batman has also created this agent of chaos, it's the whole framework of the movie and Skyfall basically lifted that and just dropped it into the Bond universe. It all fits pretty well so it still works it's just not super original. I always viewed Skyfall as being a thesis statement about the state of Bond as a franchise in an era when superhero movies were starting to really take off, with the MCU finishing up Phase One and The Dark Knight trilogy closing out with a $1billion+ box office film. The film felt like it was saying "yeah, I'm getting up there in age, but gently caress you, I'm still relevant" by emphasising what makes the Bond franchise the Bond franchise. Bond hops into a DB5 and take M back to his roots, after all. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Basebf555 posted:None of that is at all required, they can just recast the role the same way they always have. He's a Timelord
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DrVenkman posted:Another touch I liked is this idea that that M has managed to reduce 00 casualties since he took over. There's a nice glimpse into some bureaucracy that the other movies never really touch on until possibly the Craig era. Yeah, that's one thing I liked about Casino Royale and Skyfall - that while Bond is running around and raising hell, M is having to clean up his messes and answer for it as his direct superior.
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Fart City posted:Actually, that does make me wonder: Bond was rebooted. Blocked was rebooted. I wonder how far we are away from some of the classic henchman like Oddjob or Baron Samedi getting rebooted. Jaws feels like a super safe bet, since he appeared in multiple movies. It kind of feels inevitable. Which begs the question: is M from the Craig movies up until the last 10 minutes or so of Skyfall the same M from the Brosnan films?
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