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I don't buy into the whole "James Bond is a code name" theory, but my god, how awesome would it be to have the villain of a Bond flick be an actual James Bond. And I'm not talking Alec Trevelyn; I'm talking full-on real-deal James Bond as a bad guy fighting a newer, younger James Bond. Like, imagine if it was Lazenby or Dalton; the dudes who got shafted by circumstance and timing.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2018 19:09 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:23 |
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TWINE had a really good villain in Renard that they did absolutely gently caress-all with. A dude who can’t feel pain and knows he’s on a death clock has enormous possibilities to get really bonkers with, but they kept him weirdly low key.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2018 17:04 |
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Basebf555 posted:Played by a fantastic actor too, Robert Carlyle. Check out Ravenous for an idea of how great Carlyle could've been as a Bond villain if they hadn't completely wasted him. Oh dear sir, I know that film all too well. Very near and dear to my heart. Really that’s kind of what I wanted in TWINE: just one scene like the Tom And Jerry antics featured at the end of Ravenous. Keep it PG-13, yes, but have Bond throw absolutely everything he can at Renard, just to see it shrugged off. peekaboo gangster posted:It makes sense, considering the twist of the movie is Elektra King being the main antagonist, with him fulfilling the "Jaws" role of henchman. Well, one of the fifteen hundred twists. TWINE's biggest problem was that there's all the elements of a good Bond movie there, along with three other movies, and they're very clumsily jammed together. That’s true, but it almost makes it more egregious that he doesn’t have a more notable action scene. The fight at the end is whatever, but it doesn’t nearly come close to taking advantage of the unique characteristics of the antagonist. Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 8, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 8, 2018 17:14 |
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Yeah, I’m super on-board with Boyle. He has the right mix of auteur and fun to deliver a really awesome Bond flick.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 15:52 |
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The problem with the step-brothers angle is that it detracts from the overall concept of Bond as a secret agent by becoming too much about Bond himself, and not enough shout The Mission. He’s had personal connections and motivations regarding villains in the past, but those squabbles were always cast in the shadow of international intrigue (even Goldeneye is just a big-rear end heist caper at the end of the day). Bond’s entire purpose is to be a deniable, semi-invisible wrench in greater machinations. By making those machinations be constructed in service to Bond, the espionage element is traded in for simple revenge. That’s fine for maybe a one-off movie like OHMSS or License To Kill, but is a huge disservice to something like the Casino Royale, or even Quantum Of Solace to an extent.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2018 22:16 |
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exquisite tea posted:I caught Goldeneye a couple years ago on TV and it still holds up imho. The opening sequence leading up to the runway stunt is still insane, the script isn't too terrible, and most importantly it does not waste the viewer's time, which is a rarity in Bond films. It does have the most hilariously air-conditioner-cool-beats 90's remix of the Bond theme imaginable, though.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 03:13 |
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Super cool, my dude.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 03:35 |
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Aces High posted:it did not really click until this thread that Graeme Norgate went to a lot of effort to emulate the style of Eric Serra's score for the game. Rare always seemed to get the right people for their games Yeah, it's actually really impressive. It's kind of rote to praise Goldeneye 64 in this day in age, but it really was that great of a game.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2018 04:13 |
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Another Way To Die is underrated, probably because it's attached to such a jank flick.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2018 01:55 |
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I have a soft spot for Brosnan because he was the first Bond I saw in theaters, but I can’t deny that there’s an element to him that feels like you’re watching the video clip that plays on a loop while waiting in line for the James Bond Stunt Spectacular show at an amusement park.
Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 28, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 28, 2018 19:16 |
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Hello, I was looking for footage of the James Bond “A License To Thrill” theme park ride, and instead stumbled across something much more fascinating. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PKApB2K9Zzg Skip to 5:33 for some very pyrotechnic work. Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 29, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 19:05 |
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Ehhh. QoS is weird because so much of its momentum is directly tied to the end of Casino Royale. If you hadn’t seen that, or didn’t know who Vesper was, a lot of the purpose is removed from the first quarter of the movie. I’m not saying that you can’t have direct-continuation Bond sequels (obviously), but QoS doesn’t really stand on its own feet as a stand-alone film. It’s also somehow paced in a way that both manages to feel very sleight and very slow, which doesn’t help.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 14:12 |
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Darko posted:It's good, but I'd say Living Daylights and From Russia With Love are better. Is there anybody who doesn't hold From Russia With Love as the quintessential Bond movie? I mean, Goldeneye was the first film I ever watched in the series so that will always hold a special place in my heart, but after having given the entire franchise a watch a couple of years ago, FRWL always stood out to me as the best by a country mile.
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# ¿ May 20, 2018 06:10 |
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Maybe someone here can help me out. A couple of years ago, before Daniel Craig was cast as Bond but after Beosnan left the role, EA was still trying to be in the business of Bond games. They released stuff like From Russia With Love and Goldeneye: Rogue Agent around that time. Right before Craig was given the role, they announced that they were going to make a new, original Bond game, and had even gone so far as to “cast” Bond with an actual actor. He wasn’t a known-name, but looked dead on the illustrations used in the Fleming books. And it wasn’t the model they used for Agent Under Fire; this was like an actual dude with a headshot and everything. Does anybody remember this?
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# ¿ May 23, 2018 21:07 |
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lmao all of this talk about the best entry and nobody mentions JAMES BOND: LICENSE TO THRILL, COMING SOON TO A PARAMOUNT THEME PARK NEAR YOUUUU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_UCA4u1dCCU
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 21:19 |
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Barudak posted:Is License to Thrill the one where Bond defeats a terrorist who hijacked an Earthquake machine because spoilers that films great Nah, weird rear end motion simulator attraction from the late 90's where you see everything through Bond's eyes because of some ~Q Glasses~. It was basically a fifteen minute live action Goldeneye 64, with Bond riding a motorcycle, fighting on a train, having a mid-air fistfight to get a parachute, and somehow ending in the Florida everglades, I think...? Think Hardcore Henry done like almost twenty years ago but designed for an Ohio theme park.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2018 04:13 |
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ninjahedgehog posted:Was this the one that ended with Bond shooting a missile out of his wristwatch, or am I thinking of something else? That’s the one.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2018 20:17 |
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Barudak posted:George Lucas is available. In other news, the new Bond film is being praised for its diverse casting. “Ten years ago it would have been unthinkable,” said director George Lucas, “but I think the world is finally ready for Sebulba as a Bond girl.”
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2018 18:23 |
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Vagabundo posted:Dalton was probably ahead of his time and was the victim of an awkward transition between Moore and Brosnan. License to Kill loving owns though. The Dalton entries were definitely ahead of their time. The more grounded and gritty style of those flicks were basically the prototype for what was later done - and celebrated - in Casino Royale.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 02:29 |
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DrVenkman posted:I've really never understood his dislike for that movie, though I think it comes from not liking Brosnan's Bond all that much. I think it’s an okay action movie, but a boring Bond movie - if that makes sense. The Rupert Murdoch villain is somehow simultaneously too realistic and too batshit to coelesce into a fully realized antagonist. Like a singular dude controlling the world’s news is a legit real world issue. Him driving around in a super drill sub... thing... is some poo poo straight out of the Foot Clan. Like focusing on either one of those extremes would have made for a better movie, but the final product just couldn’t walk that tightrope with enough finesse.
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 18:21 |
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Pfft. James Bond already died. He was vaporized by a misfired missile during that Alcatraz hostage situation back in ‘96.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2018 17:43 |
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thrawn527 posted:What? Vaporized? A body can...vaporize? Blown out to sea.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2018 18:23 |
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Basebf555 posted:I saw The Rock as a kid years before I'd ever seen a Connery Bond film so to go back to it in my 20's and realize what that character was all about was pretty mind blowing. Reading Connery’s character as a disavowed Bond is a legit fun way to rewatch the movie. And not even in a dumb headcanon way. There’s enough winking and nodding in The Rock itself to make it a viable interpretation.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2018 18:29 |
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I was thinking the other day how interesting it is that a lot of the style setting done in Casino Royale was kind of abandoned in the later Craig installments. That first flick is very mobility-centric in its action scenes, what with the parkour chase, exhibition/airport chase, and stairwell fight. And it opens with that black and white filter. Those are distinct, bold tonal choices for a reboot, which were almost immediately discarded in QoS.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2018 20:05 |
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Gaius Marius posted:Well the Craig films are at pains to connect themselves to each other no matter how nonsensical it may be to do so Which makes it all the weirder that they are so stylistically different in terms of cinematography and action choreography. Like the Craig movies push a sense of true continuity stronger than any other actor’s run in the franchise, but if you watch Casino Royale and Skyfall (both great films) one after another, the actual universe they set in feels radically different. Even though we’re to believe it’s the same character, the Bond from Royale doesn’t really fit in Skyfall. And it’s not just a character growth thing; it’s hard to square the dude who sat in a chair getting his balls tortured with the dude who mugs at a bunch of Komodo dragons.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2018 13:47 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Those have got to be pretty wild reads then. The books are pretty “yikes,” especially when it comes to any character that happens to be a minority. Dr. No in particular was a rough read. On the flip side Bond is much more of a gently caress-up in the novels, regularly getting shot or poisoned on what seems like a regular basis.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2018 20:10 |
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Daniel Kaluuya would be pretty rad. He’s twenty-nine.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 18:54 |
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Hey, I was being legit. I’d really like to see Kaluuya in more leading man roles. And he’s pretty young, which could lead to covering some untested ground. I mean I know we just got a reboot run with Craig, but I’ve always thought it would be interesting to see something that touches on Bond from when he was in the actual regular-degular military. Maybe some flashback stuff tying into a new villain he served with or something.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 19:51 |
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Just make a live action James Bond Junior and cast Harry Styles. And, more specifically, so I can see a live action version of this Oddjob:
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2018 02:26 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 17:23 |
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Actually, that does make me wonder: Bond was rebooted. Blofeld was rebooted. I wonder how far we are away from some of the classic henchman like Oddjob or Baron Samedi getting rebooted. Jaws feels like a super safe bet, since he appeared in multiple movies. It kind of feels inevitable. Edit: Jaws also appeared in the Brosnan era Everything Or Nothing videogame, reprised by Richard Kiel, so there’s definitely precedent for him being loosey-goosey cannon-wise. Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Sep 7, 2018 |
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