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viral spiral posted:GoldenEye, in my opinion, is the best bond film; it has just the right amount of campiness, action, and style. Famke Janssen's villain is easily one of the most memorable ones, too. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, having loved it as a kid (first Bond movie in theaters!) - it just seems like a tasteless victory lap by the "west" over the Soviet Union. The main villain has a former Soviet commander and an ultra-feminist who literally uses her sexuality to kill as his underlings. His mode of transport is an old Soviet missile train. The ultimate plan is to rob London of all its money, and redistribute it to his masses. Even his base of operations is located in Cuba, further linking him to the idea of "the radical left." James Bond, on the other hand, is dismissed outright by his new (female) superior as a "dinosaur" and a "relic," but that's exactly what's needed to stop this new Marxist threat. There's even an entire action setpiece based around destroying Soviet statuary with their own tanks while Bond jauntily adjusts his tie and winks knowingly at the audience. It's been a few years since I've watched GoldenEye, so I might have to go back and re-evaluate it, but I just remember it leaving a bad taste in my mouth (and ears, good God almighty the soundtrack is trash). Now Tomorrow Never Dies? For some reason, I could watch that movie on repeat - whatever flaws the movie might have melt away whenever Jonathan Pryce is onscreen eating the entire set dressing. If I had to choose a favorite it would probably be For Your Eyes Only, with a nice mix of goofy Roger Moore clowning and stone-cold murder Roger Moore, and one of the best soundtracks in the series.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I thought Sean Bean just wanted to steal all the money and keep it all for himself. He does; but he's gotta keep all those people in the Control Center in his employ somehow. What got me on this tangent was one of the first establishing shots of said Control Center, where an elderly-ish looking woman is walking by the giant GoldenEye control screen - the Janus Syndicate clearly has no discriminatory hiring policies, and I'm willing to bet they've signed conditionally based employment contracts on the idea that they will receive their payout at the end of the operation.  Though, considering the name of the organization and the EXTREME amount of betraying 006 was doing, I wouldn't put it past him to screw Janus Grandma out of her retirement fund.
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Mar 6, 2018 15:28
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exquisite tea posted:Someone should supercut all the best scenes from the Moore chronology to make one good Bond film that doesn’t drag on for a million years. It's gonna be really confusing when the only scenes they pull from Octopussy involve him dressing up as a clown, while they also keep 80% of For Your Eyes Only. As far as theme songs go, I know the movie itself is pretty crap, but you guys, the best theme song is easily Duran Duran's "A View to a Kill." When CD was just formed I posted 2 Bond threads with polls for Best and Worst Bond movies; the overall consensus at the time (pre-Quantum of Solace, I believe) was that From Russia With Love, GoldenEye, and Goldfinger were everyone's top 3, while Die Another Day, A View to a Kill, and Moonraker were consistently trashed. Moore's movies were the most divisive, but the community was brought together over shared dislike for Scaramanga's superfluous nipple, while celebrating the following movie and it's ancient, web-appendaged Stromberg. Oh, and everyone loved OHMSS, but the sped-up fight scenes and that line (this never happened to the other guy!) helped lose it a top 3 spot.
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Mar 8, 2018 15:33
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lelandjs posted:Die Another Day is actually a pretty fun, but incredibly, unbelievably dumb, early 00's action film. It's probably my second favorite Brosnan film, though that's because I think Tomorrow Never Dies was mostly boring (Steve Jobs just doesn't make for a compelling baddie) and The World is Not Enough is... eugh. Die Another Day's opening sequence leading up to... discovering Zao was still alive / the swordfight in the club was a pretty good start to a James Bond movie. Disavowed by MI6 due to a bungled mission only to discover he was betrayed by someone on the inside should have made for a compelling second half, and yet we got an Ice Palace / Hothouse dungeon straight from a Final Fantasy game, before the space laser airship finale. At least Toby Stephens is having a blast as Gustav Graves - his delivery of "Oh look! Parachutes, for the both of us! (throws one out of the plane) Whoops!" is one of my favorite Bond villain bits in the series, it just oozes contempt and smarm.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:00
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think Octopussy has the overall worst song. My fiancee and I are steadily going through the series as she'd never seen a Bond movie, and I was actively looking forward to Octopussy because I remembered General Orlov being a good, intimidating villain, and she loves Indian movies, so hey - Bond in India! Perfect! As it turned out, I had apparently shut literally everything else about the movie out of my mind, like the entire Fabrege Egg plot, Bond's worthless connection to Octopussy herself (he let her father kill himself instead of get extradited back to Britain for trial?), and how painfully bad Kamal Khan is. He's the main villain, right? He wears the Nehru jackets and has a large, silent henchman in Gobinda, but he spends most of the movie getting poo poo on by various people - at one point, he goes to Octopussy to tell her Bond is snooping around, be careful. Octopussy then reveals that not only does she know this, she's hanging out with Bond. The world's largest cuck in the 1981 is who James Bond is pitted against? I'd buy a fistfight between him and fish-hand Stromberg before I'd buy Louis Jordan as a credible threat. Not to mention during the climax, Bond is able to annoy Gobinda to death off the plane with a well-timed antennae whap, and then Khan... just kinda crashes his plane? We both decided this was easily Moore's worst movie, worse than View to a Kill, a film where a blimp sneaks up on a woman. Octopussy is a complete waste of a movie. don't get me started on that loving tarzan yell either peekaboo gangster fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 16:59
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Fart City posted:TWINE had a really good villain in Renard that they did absolutely gently caress-all with. A dude who can’t feel pain and knows he’s on a death clock has enormous possibilities to get really bonkers with, but they kept him weirdly low key. It makes sense, considering the twist of the movie is Elektra King being the main antagonist, with him fulfilling the "Jaws" role of henchman. Well, one of the fifteen hundred twists. TWINE's biggest problem was that there's all the elements of a good Bond movie there, along with three other movies, and they're very clumsily jammed together.
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Timby posted:Craig's had a really, really miserable time on two of his four movies. Quantum of Solace was a second-draft script that they were shooting, and eventually Forster and Craig were rewriting the drat thing themselves in-between takes. On Spectre, they went into filming with a script that was being rewritten daily on the set, and Craig shredded his knee filming a fight scene (and he also tore his rotator cuff on either Quantum or Skyfall). The original script is worse than "I'm the author of all your pain, James?" Spectre had one of the clunkiest scripts I've ever had the pleasure of watching actors try to deliver - M telling C "Now we know what C stands for" is fine, but then they add "...careless" to it and kept it in the movie! Like, that's 100% a line you shoot and go "we'll see if it works!" and quietly delete the negatives of, not keep in the finished product.
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