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Vando posted:This is why I think it might be worth trying the live watch thread idea: it allows everyone who watches it live to respond freely without messing with spoiler tags, but also allows people to discuss a show that has a LOT of scope for discussion outside of the current episode without having to avoid the thread for days on end. I don't think there are enough posts to justify that. We usually only get like half a page of posts on an episode. I think trying to split discussion to two threads would just kill it. I guess I struggle to see what the issue is with not watching right away. I usually finish the episode on Friday or over the weekend and have never had any problem with posts in the thread. I just don't visit the thread until I finish the episode. Why would I want to read a thread that's all about an episode I haven't seen? There's usually not that much other chat going on. If people are several episodes behind, can't you just stop reading when the "new" episode talk starts? It's usually pretty clear when people are posting about a live episode what with the ad reactions etc. Would it help to just post something like NEW EPISODE TALK STARTING NOW when the episode starts so people who are back reading know when to stop? I don't think two threads is a good idea and I also don't love having the entire thread in black spoilers. blackcross fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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I have the VOD and I frequently open the thread out of habit. If you absolutely need spoiler free, go to reddit, not tviv.
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Oct 16, 2021 19:17
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The main difference I see between Critical Role and other TVIV threads is that the show’s seasons are so much longer, hundreds of episodes instead of 10-20. The best arrangement I could see for multiple threads would be one thread for the finished campaigns and one for the ongoing campaign. And I definitely would say no spoiler tags needed on the ongoing campaign thread.
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Oct 16, 2021 20:03
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Silynt posted:The main difference I see between Critical Role and other TVIV threads is that the show’s seasons are so much longer, hundreds of episodes instead of 10-20. This is probably the best idea. We could probably have this thread title changed to make it the previous campaigns & one-shots thread and start our new on for Season 3.
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Oct 16, 2021 20:10
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One other thought, although it may be more trouble than it's worth, is making a new thread for each major Arc in Campaign 3 vs the total campaign. That way each thread would only cover multiple months vs multiple years, and each thread could be a good jumping on point for new/returning fans. Of course, that would require determining when an Arc ends and someone writing up/copying the plot/character status every time.
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blackcross posted:Would it help to just post something like NEW EPISODE TALK STARTING NOW when the episode starts so people who are back reading know when to stop? So far this sounds like the best compromise to me. Just have the first person to react to an episode put a  in their post so it's nice and clear when it starts.
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Oct 16, 2021 22:19
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:So far this sounds like the best compromise to me. Just have the first person to react to an episode put a Works for me, a thread avoider the day of first broadcast. If that's the consensus, I'd suggest putting that prominently in the next thread's OP.
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Oct 16, 2021 22:25
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I mostly lurk, and never finish the episode when it airs live, but I've never had an issue with clicking into the thread before I've finished the episode. It seems easy enough to realize where the reactions start, that the most spoiler thing I see might be "OMG Travis WTF!" or something like that. I don't see the need to separate the thread, or demand spoiler tags. At most, a post of "EPISODE STARTING NOW" would seem perfectly sufficient.
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Agreed with "Episode stars here" thing I think the only reason to have a 2nd crit role thread would be for when the TV show comes out to keep things separate.
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Like someone else said in the thread, I know the episode talk starts when someone posts "Sam, no."
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Dragonstoned posted:I think the only reason to have a 2nd crit role thread would be for when the TV show comes out to keep things separate. I think that's actually an interesting question for the people who were in favor of 2 threads, if they think Legend of Vox Machina chat should happen in a campaign 3 liveposting thread (maybe with spoiler tags?) or be in the "old content" thread. Or, in general, what they'd like to see as a spoiler tag policy for an old content thread. The whole point of that thread would be to avoid spoilers, but if it's meant to be accessible for people not caught up I dunno what that threshold is. Spoiler tags for everything? Is campaign 1 fair game, but c2 isn't? etc.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:I think that's actually an interesting question for the people who were in favor of 2 threads, if they think Legend of Vox Machina chat should happen in a campaign 3 liveposting thread (maybe with spoiler tags?) or be in the "old content" thread. The other issue would also be if Legend doesn't release at the same time worldwide. I'm assuming it is going to be 1 episode a week (maybe 2 week 1). Most other threads I've participated in have a set spoiler tag until X day of the week after episode release policy.
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The cartoon should have its own thread where you have to spoil any future talk.
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Yeah, I'd reckon that Legend would be its own thread, since it's its own thing.
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The more threads you spread out conversation among, the less conversation actually happens. I'd say there really only needs to be two threads - one for Campaign 3 and one for Legends of Vox Machina when it comes out. The latter needs its own thread because ideally it'll get new people into CR who shouldn't have to come into the ongoing campaign thread and be potentially spoiled about three entire campaigns they don't know anything about.
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As the person who introduced the idea of spoiler tags, I'll say that I did so out of a lack of imagination for alternatives at the time. The thread having a siren post for when live watch starts would, through a different method get us to the same place I think. I also think having two threads loosely based on legacy and current or Animated series and twitch or whatever distinction is a good idea as well.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:I think that's actually an interesting question for the people who were in favor of 2 threads, if they think Legend of Vox Machina chat should happen in a campaign 3 liveposting thread (maybe with spoiler tags?) or be in the "old content" thread. I think everything "game related" should be spoiler tagged and clearly marked in the TV show thread (C1 Spoiler)Vecna wins and everyone dies (and then lives again because Vecna...) (C2 Spoiler)Jester's mom is the best lay ever The MCUTV thread was having a similar issue in that people were spoiler tagging the new movies but not labelling it clearly. So you think you're going to be looking at something from the latest episode that aired but whoops it was for that movie you've not seen yet... I dunno, but I'm sure smarter people then me will figure it out
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That makes perfect sense for the Animated thread. Starting tomorrow night, the Drag Race thread will have three separate series going on at the same time (two on the same day  ) and we've just naturally flowed to annotating all Spoilers with the related series for a couple of days after broadcast so that we can discuss while others get a chance to watch the shows. The big difference is that all of the said series are on streaming platforms so there's not a live/linear broadcast.CR is still an event broadcast. I could skip right to the elimination of tomorrow's Dragula premiere the moment it's released if I wanted to, but everyone watching CR can only rewind the Twitch vod, not skip forward. (i just realized that thursday is drag race uk, canada's drag race, and the campaign 3 premiere aaaaaaaaaaaaaa  )
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I haven't been able to find it, but any info on what the characters will be? And there's some behind the scenes thing tomorrow to show the new set. Wonder what big changes they made. seaborgium fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 18:08
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For those of us who missed it when it aired, the Narrative Telephone episode is out on youtube now and holy crap it's great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3kGly9a4kE
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This got linked to on Reddit, but it’s worth sharing here too: https://critrole.com/a-warm-welcome-to-marquet-and-campaign-3/ Nice short intro. Also heads off some of the discussion about cultural sensitivity issues.
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Keru posted:For those of us who missed it when it aired, the Narrative Telephone episode is out on youtube now and holy crap it's great. In the middle of this now. Aimee is a goddamn gift.
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TotalHell posted:This got linked to on Reddit, but it’s worth sharing here too: Also now only 30% of the continent is desert. Which some have concluded to be a retcon born out the realization that it would be boring otherwise
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1Bz1p8Od0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH4yyDk6lkQ The "Cursed Cocktails" are Eldermancy and Sandkheg's Hide. He actually made his own Elderberry liqueur for the Eldermancy. Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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DarklyDreaming posted:Also now only 30% of the continent is desert. Which some have concluded to be a retcon born out the realization that it would be boring otherwise Yeah and may also have been informed by a sort of casual orientalist mindset of “oh this is the foreign desert culture where everything is desert.” Making it 30% is more interesting and probably ultimately more in line with what they’re doing with cultural sensitivity.
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Crazy Ted posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1Bz1p8Od0 You know the drinks are truly awful when he doesn't end up hammered off them by the end of the episode.
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Nemo2342 posted:You know the drinks are truly awful when he doesn't end up hammered off them by the end of the episode.
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Crazy Ted posted:I just like the fact that the Eldermancy had so much poo poo in it that he put the Newcastle Brown Ale substitute off to the side and poured it over the top of the finished drink because otherwise the shaker would have overflowed. I like Newcastle Brown Ale and do I don’t know if I’m happy or disappointed that it had to be substituted in this hell concoction.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:So far this sounds like the best compromise to me. Just have the first person to react to an episode put a I agree with this. Sometimes you get scrolling catching up and it's hard to see where the next episode starts. Someone get a Campaign 3 thread spun up before Thursday please. Doesn't have to be something crazy amazing. Anytime ya'll need a title change in the new thread, drop me a PM. Dexo posted:The cartoon should have its own thread where you have to spoil any future talk. Agree.
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TotalHell posted:Yeah and may also have been informed by a sort of casual orientalist mindset of “oh this is the foreign desert culture where everything is desert.” Making it 30% is more interesting and probably ultimately more in line with what they’re doing with cultural sensitivity. Knowing Matt as much as we can, it was probably a, "to be filled in later," placeholder that hung around until there was reason for it not to. And since it was just placeholder never got a second thought to consider any problems/implications.
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Dameius posted:Knowing Matt as much as we can, it was probably a, "to be filled in later," placeholder that hung around until there was reason for it not to. And since it was just placeholder never got a second thought to consider any problems/implications. You could also say that common knowledge of Marquet to people who have never been there is "It's the continent that's a big desert."
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:You could also say that common knowledge of Marquet to people who have never been there is "It's the continent that's a big desert." I mean, Australia to a lot of people is the continent that tries to kill you and is mostly desert so it's not like there isn't a real world parallel.
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seaborgium posted:I mean, Australia to a lot of people is the continent that tries to kill you and is mostly desert so it's not like there isn't a real world parallel. Retconning all Marquesian accents to be Australian in my headcanon.
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TotalHell posted:Yeah and may also have been informed by a sort of casual orientalist mindset of “oh this is the foreign desert culture where everything is desert.” Making it 30% is more interesting and probably ultimately more in line with what they’re doing with cultural sensitivity.
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Campaign 3 Set reveal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfB4lVnL4CM
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Senjuro posted:On the one hand yes, everything being a desert would be boring, but on the other hand it raises the question of who would build their capital in a desert, which is about the least hospitable terrain for life, if it wasn't the only option. Could have been less desert when it was built but them climate change happens and it is more oasis than Mediterranean.
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Skuzal posted:Campaign 3 Set reveal Odds of Critical Role Land actually happening went up from 0% to 2% 
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Skuzal posted:Campaign 3 Set reveal Oh, man. I like it. I like it a lot. And some of those effects are going to be bonkers when they get popped out during a session- like, the rain thing? Lord. I was already excited, but this has me pretty hyped.
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Wow. That is some set. 44-ish hours to go!
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