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A human heart posted:I wonder if some of the hype around Lingua Ignota comes from a general lack of familiarity with industrial/noise stuff? Like the material I've heard has been good, but not as mind blowing as the hype would suggest. The fact that it's not all noise all the time but has less harsh bits probably helps too I imagine. Women noise musicians have been really hot for a while. Pharmakon is an indie scene darling. The music is good, and yeah often there's more crossover appeal and genre-exploration, but I wonder if it might be because they interview so much better. Having this creepy bald dude talking about satanism or a japanese dude talking about bondage porn as a backdrop for their music is not with the times. Noise music also often expresses anger or despair; and I think as a culture we're kind of full up with angry depressed dudes.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 00:26 |
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Slothful Bong posted:centered around the dynamics, vocal breaking, and willingness to force disparate styles into a working whole that can still collapse into something entirely different at any moment, where you as the listener can only partially predict where it's going. Sounds like you'd probably like IDM/Experimental Electronic acts with a bit of a noise bent. Maybe something like Blanck Mass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afymin3h1mI
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 16:42 |
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Slothful Bong posted:That's pretty cool, thanks! With that band in mind, are there any that are downtempo (maybe half to 1/4 speed) with potentially more circuit bending/weird noises? Sure, experimental electronic is full of that stuff. So is a lot of modern ambient music. The degree of "noise" is debatable of course. Andy Stott - Violence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL41EXic65g Tim Hecker - The Piano Drop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKKqfQtqObo Slothful Bong posted:Like, I know some "industrial" influenced bands from the 90's-2000's (skinny puppy, einstürzende neubauten, Atari teenage riot, KMFDM, Throbbing Gristle, Laibach, pigface, etc), and my familiarity with noise is almost entirely focused around glitch and whatever the hell stuff like the drum bitcrush breakdown in NIN's the Great Destroyer is, where it's a deafening wall of effected drums that forms musical patterns through the distortion (glitch? Lol.) It's cool. Industrial is great, and is having a little bit of a resurgence right now, usually centering around noise. There's a thread for that, but yeah: PRURIENT - Dragonflies To Sew You Up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dgFykz0bNo Youth Code - Consuming Guilt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO6RqjPrhgg If you like that bit in The Great Destroyer, my guess is that it was inspired by this IDM classic: Aphex Twin - Ventolin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFeUBOJgaLU thotsky fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jan 8, 2019 |
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I am pretty new to him myself. Personally, I think it is interesting how noise/industrial is making inroads in the indie scene, from popping up in established genres like hip hop (Kanye West's Yeezus and Death Grips as a whole) or metal (The Body), to more accessible artists gaining some popularity (Prurient) or being adopted whole cloth (Pharmakon). I am happy for Pitchfork to be writing about noise if it means there will be more shows I can go to.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2019 08:59 |
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Noise is a hard thing to define in my opinion, and easily confused with Industrial; hence thread title maybe. I think Yeezus ushered in or at the very least mainstreamed the adoption of a harsher noise/industrial aesthetic in popular music, even if I'm not a hiphop fan myself. Recently, noise in the Merzbow tradition has not done it so much for me. I feel like as Ambient artists are increasingly exploring harsh soundscapes it's hard to compete with their superior production. The live aspect of something like a Lasse Marhaug show can still be fun, but as much fun as expert knob-twiddlers can be, the last big sort of non-industrial "noise" act I fell in love with comes at it from the noise-rock or "we want to play rock/jazz, but we can't be bothered to learn to play" angle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNKA7i4i9GA
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2019 09:12 |
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A human heart posted:'superior production' Yeah, that was a snooty of me, and not necessarily an indicator of good music either... Whatever floats your boat, man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k-tRbEW-Rc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW80JfXLZGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JfkfqpgY_8
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