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Unormal posted:This is a really loving good article. Can you summarize? I stopped reading The Atlantic when they removed their comments section.
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enraged_camel posted:Can you summarize? I stopped reading The Atlantic when they removed their comments section. It establishes a non-facile breakdown of the modern evangelical movement and how they reached the current Trump aligned nadir; the detail is what makes it worth reading, since the summary is evangelicals are doing bad, which we all know. It's written by W's advisor/speechwriter.
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Mar 12, 2018 09:28
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Wait what did TB get banned for? 
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hosed up as it may seem but YOSPOS is possibly the most accepting/progressive LBGT subforum on the site so long as you get funny computers
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Wait what did TB get banned for? TB who? TotalBiscuit?
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enraged_camel posted:Can you summarize? I stopped reading The Atlantic when they removed their comments section. A nicely detailed blow by blow of how reactionary religious movements particularly fundamentalism arose in response to a justice oriented evangelical movement, emerging science (particularly evolution) and the dawn of German biblical criticism & hermeneutics. How the evangelical brand was coopted and reified from a post millennial, utopian ideal to a pre-millenial, apocalyptic, quietist movement at odds with the larger American culture. He goes on to connect how Trump’s rhetoric of America in decline dovetails neatly if unwittingly with the paranoid ideology of the fundamentalist movement which eventually took on the banner of evangelical Christianity. Because of this deep resonance in how Trumps populism and fundamentalist ideals compliment each other, fundamentalist Christians are naturally at home with Trump even if he flagrantly violates all Christian norms and values. I’m missing some bits I’m sure but that was the nutshell for me. Trumps blatantly unchristian behavior is almost irrelevant to whether or not fundamentalists support him when you consider the history of their movement and how Trumps own paranoid, populist nostalgia overlap so neatly.
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Unormal posted:It establishes a non-facile breakdown of the modern evangelical movement and how they reached the current Trump aligned nadir; the detail is what makes it worth reading, since the summary is evangelicals are doing bad, which we all know. It's written by W's advisor/speechwriter.
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Mar 12, 2018 09:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Wait what did TB get banned for? YT said some sexist and racist bullshit, TB called him on it, he doubled down, she told him very indirectly to kill himself. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3821460&pagenumber=5521&perpage=40#post479277296 And then she got perma'd for it.
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Yeah that Atlantic article on Evangelicals is very interesting. I was worried at first that it was going to go into full whitewashing mode and try to justify past abuses but it doesn't. Good read, do recommend. Kind of a quick history of religion in America actually, since it touches on how the country developed faith-wise over its lifetime and how Evangelicalism in particular became so reactionary. edit: TB = TinyBrontosaurus. And the perma was ostensibly because it wasn't the first time she'd told someone to go kill themselves but I've seen worse from people still posting in this thread. (Unban TB.)
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Lead out in cuffs posted:YT said some sexist and racist bullshit, TB called him on it, he doubled down, she told him very indirectly to kill himself. That's....a pretty terrible look TBH. I dunno about a perma though.
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OneEightHundred posted:I feel like this Stormy Daniels saga and the embrace of Trump in general is going to be much more lethal to their moral credibility than the evolution denialism. Never underestimate the lack of self reflection of the average piss baby.
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Mar 12, 2018 10:42
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it turns out when you repeatedly tell people on this forum to kill themselves you will get punished for it.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:22
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bogoodski posted:Random, and out of curiosity (new thread's got me questioning things (like: life, its meaning, and other existential but equally important deliberations, such as the following)): Is it pretty common among this thread's participants to visit this thread exclusively on SA? games subforum is cool and I play every online game with goons now. TFF is also a pretty rad place to talk about football.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:41
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omg newest McNaughton painting  quote:I painted President Trump picking up a shredded and trampled flag off the football field. He holds a wet cloth in his right hand, as he attempts to clean it.
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Chilichimp posted:TFF is also a pretty rad place to talk about football. Used to post there until I got a little intimidated by my relative lack of knowledge about certain things and stopped. I read TFF occasionally now but I've posted maybe once or twice. Plus, I'm a Patriots fan and I don't think TFF wants more of those.
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^^^ Ask questions and post post post. They're good at explaining poo poo without being dicks. Mostly. Chilichimp posted:games subforum is cool and I play every online game with goons now. SAS as a whole owns. I forgot about posting in the mlb threads. I also lost 80lbs with the help of ylls. Ok I promise to shut up about the forums after Trump's first tweet of the new new infrastructure week.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:omg They have a child's view of the world. Yes, those scary
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:omg i imagine trumps face looking something like that when the piss tape is released
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Mar 12, 2018 11:54
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I feel like kale deserves an OP warning.
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Mar 12, 2018 11:54
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What the hell caused the last thread to fail miserably in loading posts?! Also Devos is going to damage this country beyond repair at this rate. 
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Spiffster posted:What the hell caused the last thread to fail miserably in loading posts?! More like already has. The Trump admin has already done permanent, significant, irreversible damage, just as Bush did 20 years ago.
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Spiffster posted:What the hell caused the last thread to fail miserably in loading posts?! It got too long and when things get too long they fall apart because vbulletin is not good That Atlantic article was fascinating. It's sad, really, that the Evangelicals ended up in the state they're in now. From some of the poll stats the author provided I guess there's hope for their future but we still have to survive their current monstrous iteration.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:This is a Good Article. It's pretty good, for sure. It just kind of gets my goat just the sheer scale, the massive incomprehensible amount of hypocrisy it takes for any of these self-avowed christians to support someone like Donald Trump. Do they not have any shame? Do they not care at all about their own supposed religion and the lessons it's supposed to teach (non-retarded interpretation)? Do these people not care a whit about honesty? Truth? Integrity? The character of a person and how well they uphold the ideals of the bible and the example of Christ?  I mean the goddamned bible literally warns against hypocrisy. Evangelism and american christianity is a club of cargo cult religious folks who don't care or understand about the message they themselves are peddling, they can't be anything else. Because there is no way I will ever be convinced that any person in support of Trump as a moral and trustworthy head of state, example and role model can ever be anything approaching a christian or identify with supposed christian values. It makes no sense whatsoever. None. Completely different mechanisms are at play with these people and I will believe someone like Prester Jane before I believe that any of these people are honestly and earnestly following any belief system at all.
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It's American Christianity, otherwise known as the Worst Christianity. People honestly believe that you can buy your way into heaven, like the old school indulgence system.
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mystes posted:Did they kill another dog? ...Another?
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Moatman posted:That Atlantic article was fascinating. It's sad, really, that the Evangelicals ended up in the state they're in now. From some of the poll stats the author provided I guess there's hope for their future but we still have to survive their current monstrous iteration. The religious right was never good. They got their start bitching about the desegregation of their private religious schools and hide behind abortion to justify their craven bigotry. You can’t be a good Christian and also right-wing. The two frameworks are fundamentally at odds with each other.
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Bronze posted:Hard to believe everything in those common areas won't be damaged or destroyed at light speed. And it only takes one dopey roommate and/or lovely community manager to really screw everything sideways. I can't imagine wanting to deal with that after my 20s. One step closer to company towns reborn. By which I mean Google and Amazon and Apple are already working on construction for their personal population centers. The US is going to turn into a goddamned real life version of The Probability Broach.
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Lightning Knight posted:The religious right was never good. They got their start bitching about the desegregation of their private religious schools and hide behind abortion to justify their craven bigotry. The whole point of that article is that Evangelicals weren’t always part of the religious right e: although at this point it’s been so long that they’re effectively two separate groups with the same name Moatman fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Mar 12, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/973124784623112192
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https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/973142658230218753?s=19 I'm not racist but what the gently caress me and an "identariam" were banned
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So what did these human-shaped shitwads do to get themselves kicked out of the UK?
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Alter Ego posted:So what did these human-shaped shitwads do to get themselves kicked out of the UK? https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/973125618412998656?s=20
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Alter Ego posted:So what did these human-shaped shitwads do to get themselves kicked out of the UK? I think Lauren Southern tried to sink refugee boats.
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Alter Ego posted:...so she was refused entry, not "kicked out".  That sure seems to be the case. This is also the first time I've seen the "Identitarian" label. Here's the Wikipedia article for anyone else who isn't familiar with the term: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement TL;DR: They think "white genocide" is a thing. Your instincts about the rest of their beliefs is probably pretty good.
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Lauren Southern is the woman who was all 'Feminism is bad and we should return to traditional values', then got really butt hurt when her Alt-right fan base attacked her for not being married by age 22.
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B B posted:
It's just a rebranding of White Supremacy. Just like the 500 other rebrandings running parallel right now.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/972544895964598278 Lol cernovich is the gift that keeps on giving
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B B posted:
Pretty sure the guy in the tweet up I posted was part of the group that chartered an actual boat to go chase down refugee boats until the European equivalent of the coast guard told them to stop.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Pretty sure the guy in the tweet up I posted was part of the group that chartered an actual boat to go chase down refugee boats until the European equivalent of the coast guard told them to stop. It's better than that: They went out and told them to stop approaching other vessels. Then later the idiot's boat broke down (because they are idiots and bought a 5th hand boat with no knowledge of how to fix it up properly before going out) and a refugee aid ship had to go out and rescue them from international waters.
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