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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
wait, if the cave was a "no PVP" zone, how could she shove and punch him?

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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
So, how deep are we into the book now? Because based on your excerpt sizes and summaries, I'm imagining like, 40 pages tops. And he's already gotten 1 out of 3 of the "epic" goals, with almost no fanfare whatsoever. This is not how you write an adventure story.

Also, it hit me how to describe this book--its press lies, it's not about 80s nostalgia. It's a book about Ernest Cline's nostalgia, and nothing more whatsoever. Hence how like, 35-40% of the geek references in the book have nothing to do with the 80s but are still treated like they are.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Memento posted:

Congratulations on putting more thought into the implications of Wade switching sides than the author did.

The name of the book isn't "Ready Player Two". :colbert:


Solumin posted:

That would be exactly the kind of detail an obsessive nerd (:v:) would love to point out, but of course Cline doesn't care actually know that fact because he's basing this all on personal memory, not on research into the topics that his MC spends all his time actually researching.

FTFY

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
So what I'm seeing between the lines is that the 2 creators of Oasis had a falling out because the one stole the other's waifu?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Do we ever see Daito and Shoto outside of the OASIS? Because if not, then in my headcanon they're two weebs living in like South Dakota, and have never met a real live Asian person in their lives.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Not going to lie, if I had zero foreknowledge of the story/whatever, that Labyrinth poster would make me pretty excited. Look at all the weird stuff in there. Too bad I'm fairly sure that most of it is probably background or blink and miss it type things.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
The thing I hate most about that description of the car (which I also have had the displeasure of seeing irl) is that Cline clearly doesn't know that the Flux Capacitor and the Overthruster Oscillator are the same exact prop, and that knowing this fact makes me an even worse 80s nerd than Cline. Sigh.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Renegret posted:

The more I think about it, the more I think it'll be okay if the bad guys get control of OASIS.

Oh noooo ads in my Virtual sandbox. If, in return, they reduce transportation fees I think people would be okay with that. Seriously, what the gently caress, you have a game where there's nothing to do in the starting zone and it's not possible to farm enough money to get off, so it's just full of people idly milling about. That's pretty shoddy game design if you ask me.

wasn't this exactly the problem with that Star Wars mmo from way back?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
The sex stuff is just gross, but I do think the vr gear description part has been one of the neater bits of technobabble so far. Definitely feels more in line to what the OASIS would demand than just sitting in some corner with goggles on...

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Careful with that Colossal Cave bit there Cline, you almost started explaining why something was good instead of just listing it...

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
While we're nitpicking everything wrong about the most recent passage, in Japan, traditional robes of mourning are white not black.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
The Voight-Kampf test wasn't installed at Tyrell, Deckard brought it with him. Hell the beginning of the movie shows Brion James getting the test in a lovely cop office.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
First off, I like how there's literally ZERO indication that Wade knows anything about music playing whatsoever (which is, for the record, not an easy skill to just pick up like memorizing facts), but of course HE knows how to shred virtually.

Also, from the previous update, something hit me after the fact...they make a point of saying that Tyrell buildings are super common and a standard generic world building resource. If there's a voight-kampf machine gate in every single one, why did Wade choose to go to a dangerous PVP world instead of just like, setting one up on Falco or something?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but I thought burning titanium was a monumentally bad idea?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Leofish posted:

You know, I was just thinking about this: Wade has a line early on where he talks about his Super-80s DeLorean with KITT and Ghostbusters on it and how it's his character's "trademark" ride or whatever, but he never mentions it ever again, after that one paragraph about how he mashed a bunch of 80s nerd cars together. He spends far more time and attention on his Firefly-class ship from Firefly than he does his DeLorean. Why isn't the Vonnegut his trademark?

Because it's not an 80s reference that Cline can recreate irl that he takes to conventions to show off for other nerds.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I'm not a regular to the subforum but I've been having fun here. If Chitoryu can link his next let's read in this thread when he starts would be great. :kiddo:

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
My only real experience with the Sad Puppies movement is that I go to Penguicon, an annual convention in SE MI, that once upon a time was Linux themed, but later became "open source" to the point where pretty much any and every topic is fair game, from video games to cooking to writing to martial arts to whatever you can think of. Anyways, for years "Tron Guy" (remember him?) was a regular at the con, in full embarrassing costume no less. After last year's con, he went online and started throwing the biggest temper tantrum about how he didn't like how liberal the con's policies had gotten, having issues with everything from LGBTQ+ Panels to unisex bathrooms, to even the considerations the con makes for handicapped goers. Then he for whatever reason revealed that he was an ardent member of the SP group as well. Nobody was shocked.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Wait tron guy as in



Tron guy

Yup. He'd walk around in that outfit all weekend with zero self awareness.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I have a friend who is reporting she liked it, but it was also very different from the book in a lot of ways (apparently she never read the book, only listened to the Wil Wheaton audiobook, which sounds at least marginally more investmentable). So at least there's that. Apparently also now Cline has said he's going to write a novelization of the film, to reflect the differences from his original book. Because his one cash cow is something he refuses to let go of.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

The Aphasian posted:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/excerpts-from-my-upcoming-novel-ready-player-two-girl-stuff
McSweeney's doing what McSweeney do.


EXCERPTS FROM MY UPCOMING NOVEL, READY PLAYER TWO: GIRL STUFF

Holy crap this is amazing. And absolutely spot on.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
A couple updates late, but I realized I forgot to point something out. Before the Deus Ex Ogica appears and offers the High Four sanctuary at his estate, Aech says he's willing to pick up everyone in his RV...including Shoto, who he KNOWS is in Japan, across the ocean from him. What a dick.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Liquid Communism posted:

Take them to Planet Goatse, and keep the ones who notice the ring, clearly. Can you imagine how jaded we'd be if we could experience the Internet interactively?

As a trap, have several false Planet Goatses without the ring, and if they can't tell the difference, they don't get in.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
It's already been mentioned that Cline chose the 2000s Mechagodzilla with very little research. Boy didn't he research though. Kaiju and giant robot/sentai stuff is extremely nerdy about the exact size measurements of their embiggened combatants. It takes next to no research to find out exactly how tall each of the bots used in the big battel are, and a Reddit user did just that with this handy graphic:



Kiryu being "twice" as tall as Leopardon? No, they're the same height. Ultraman comes up to about Kiryu's armpit. Raideen to its chin. It is about twice as tall as Aech and Art3mis's mechs at least.


Also regarding the final challenge, I do like that in a room full of Halliday's retro games, he had to go reenact the very first video game easter egg, that's actually clever. However, him just instinctively knowing how to do it (and knowing to login to the mainframe with the D&D name of the girl Halliday Nice Guy'd) just ruins it by removing all tension or deduction from the scene. Ugh.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
We all know why Art3mis broke up with Wade...to provide emotional drama to the story. Because as the ending shows, absolutely no change in his personality was needed for her to change her mind and fall head over heels with him. If Cline wasn't married, I'd suspect that he's never actually spoken at length with a girl in his life. At the very least, I'm wondering why none of the proofreaders had an objection to this 2D love interest style.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Deptfordx posted:

If the screenwriter did just turns it into a stealth remake of "The Last Starfighter" I would be all loving in, I love that movie. :colbert:

Wouldn't it be great if they did, then the guy who owns Last Starfighter notices, presses things legally, and a court of law has to determine that Cline is poo poo at writing?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Wait, nobody can figure why Mt Shasta is on the paranormal/conspiracy world? Have they ever researched ANYTHING about Mt. Shasta? If you're from NorCal, literally every story you have about it is that it's Weird Stuff Central, everything from weird lights in the sky to bigfoot to shady MIB reports there.

Unrelated, Re: James Cameron as a designer, he spent years and years on preproduction of Avatar designing everything from the exact way the airship rotors moved to the length of the leaves on the plants. Dude is a visual detail man, I can accept his participation.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

chitoryu12 posted:

So here's what I'm thinking for fixing the book, as well as to make it a bit more challenging than just tossing it all out and writing our own book:

We start off by creating a general plot outline that stays close to the plot and progression Cline created (so no doing the movie thing and replacing every single challenge, but we can improve on the challenges or their spirit so it's not just playing arcade games and reciting movie lines over and over). Our goal is not to write our own book in the same universe, but to find what could have been good about the story of the High Five and throw out the really awful stuff. That does include possibly redoing parts of how OASIS works to make it seem less conflicted about how realistic of a simulation it is.

Aaaand, it only took 3 posts til people started writing their own completely unrelated scenarios as well as wanting to talk about porn and stuff.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Samizdata posted:

Or it would be time-apropos for some of the Goonters to show up as a WAAAGH! wif 'Ard Boys, Mega-Armored Nobz, and a bunch a Shoota Boyz to add dakka to da stupid pinkskinz!

Are...are those words, or are you having a stroke?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Renegret posted:

It wouldn't be a stretch to say that Halliday only implemented a dozen or so unique giant mechs to be picked after the second gate, then have an unlimited number of weaker, generic mechs available for the stragglers. This way you can field armies of generic urbanmechs, veritechs, mocks, or whatever you want to get wiped out en masse by the heroes super weapons.

Kinda lines up with how only the first few to get the copper key get score bonuses.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
So, I heard in a different thread that the Mechagodzilla doesn't actively resemble any of the three from the movies. confirm/deny?

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

chitoryu12 posted:

It's mostly based on the original 80s version, with a few features from the later ones (no shoulder cannons though).

Also Sorrento gets his own avatar, and it's a huge buff dude in a suit with a jaw the approximate size and shape of a brick.

:crossarms:

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
It kinda bugs me that they went with KK when Donkey is far more 80s and has the added feature of throwing oversized barrels at foes.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I'm fairly certain that Cline doesn't like/care about any video games made after the big crash of '83. This is a man who got so hyped up over the Atari Landfill being found that he filmed himself driving across country to get there, but doesn't mention Nintendo once in his book of 80s nostalgia.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Seriously, what is even going on with its arms? I saw a brief clip on youtube someone grabbed with their camera, and he also had red lights going down his spine/tail for no real reason.

The more I look at it, the more it looks to me like for some unfathomable reason someone took Godzilla 2000's design, then gave it a "cyberpunk"? (whatever the 80s/90s electronics version of Steampunk or Dieselpunk is) coat of paint.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

Also, the movie actually did really poorly in America, home of the source of its pop culture references. So hardly anyone was clapping*.

*except China and Korea, who inexplicably loving love this movie.

China loves every big budget special effects action movie from America. They're almost to the point of being the primary audience now, as they funnel so much money exclusively for those types of films into Hollywood. Hence why stuff like Marvel films get added scenes with more China-centric focus for their overseas cuts...

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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Orthodox Rabbit posted:

There was a question at bar trivia last night asking which holy relic was the Arthurian knight Parzival searching for. Thanks to renowned author Ernest Cline's masterpiece, RPO, I knew the answer to this question.

And your team got mad at you for writing down "The Easter Egg"

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