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cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit
I really like Tony Hoagland. He died last year.

Two Trains
Tony Hoagland

Then there was that song called “Two Trains Running,”
A Mississippi blues they play on late-night radio,
that program after midnight called FM in the AM,
–well, I always thought it was about trains.
Then somebody told me it was about what a man and woman do
under the covers of their bed, moving back and forth
like slow pistons in a shiny black locomotive,
the rods and valves trying to stay coordinated
long enough that they will “get to the station”
at the same time. And one of the trains
goes out of sight into the mountain tunnel,
but when they break back into the light
the other train has somehow pulled ahead,
the two trains running like that, side by side,
first one and then the other, with the fierce white
bursts of smoke puffing from their stacks,
into a sky so sharp and blue you want to die.
So then for a long time I thought the song was about sex.
But then Mack told me that all train songs
are really about Jesus, about how the second train
is shadowing the first, so He walks in your footsteps
and He watches you from behind, He is running with you,
He is your brakeman and your engineer,
your coolant and your coal,
and He will catch you when you fall,
and when you stall He will push you through
the darkest mountain valley, up the steepest hill,
and the rough chuff chuff of his fingers on the washboard
and the harmonica woo woo is the long soul cry by which He
pulls you through the bloody tunnel of the world.
So then I thought the two trains song was a gospel song.
Then I quit my job in Santa Fe and Sharon drove
her spike heel through my heart
and I got twelve years older and Dean moved away,
and now I think the song might be about good-byes–
because we are not even in the same time zone,
or moving at the same speed, or perhaps even
headed toward the same destination–
forgodsakes, we are not even trains!
What grief it is to love some people like your own
blood, and then to see them simply disappear;
to feel time bearing us away
one boxcar at a time.
And sometimes, sitting in my chair
I can feel the absence stretching out in all directions–
like the deaf, defoliated silence
just after a train has thundered past the platform,
just before the mindless birds begin to chirp again
–and the wildflowers that grow beside the tracks
wobble wildly on their little stems,
then gradually grow still and stand
motherless and vertical in the middle of everything.

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cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit
Language Lesson 1976
Heather McHugh

When Americans say a man
takes liberties, they mean

he’s gone too far. In Philadelphia today I saw
a kid on a leash look mom-ward

and announce his fondest wish: one
bicentennial burger, hold

the relish. Hold is forget,
in American.

On the courts of Philadelphia
the rich prepare

to serve, to fault. The language is a game as well,
in which love can mean nothing,

doubletalk mean lie. I’m saying
doubletalk with me. I’m saying

go so far the customs are untold.
Make nothing without words,

and let me be
the one you never hold.

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

Eat The Rich posted:

Hi. I'm new to poetry. What is everyone's favorite poetry books(collection??) ?

Definitely go for an anthology at first, preferably a big one, then flip around till you find something you like and follow our from there. If you happen to like birds, Bright Wings: An Illustrated Anthology of Poems About Birds is a good collection.

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

Tree Goat posted:

did anybody buy the newish english translation of the book of disquiet? is it good/better than the penguin classics one

I did not. I have the penguin classics edition. Is there something wrong with it? I thought it was pretty good, though that book is depressing in a way few books are.

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit
I just read an extremely interesting and quite good long narrative poem called "The Voyage of the Sable Venus" by Robin Coste Lewis. The deal with the poem is, it's entirely made up of the titles, catalog entries, and exhibit descriptions of Western artworks which include a depiction of a black woman from 38,000 BCE to the present day. The only thing I can compare is the work of Susan Howe or Anne Carson, who also write poems where history is present is surprising ways and which have a jaunty fractured style that mines every last connotation and etymological ambiguity out of each word. If you're interested in what really out-there but strangely grounded poetry looks like, this is it. (I like a lot of Howe's books but my favorite is Articulation of Sound Forms in Time, for Carson, Autobiography of Red is a fan fave but Glass, Irony, and God is more history-y, I think)

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cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

Zesty Mordant posted:

I've been flipping open random pages to the robert creely collection i got from the library, because i've liked a few of his poems before, but so far, I'm not really feeling most of them. they're often just quick bizarre snippets that I can't understand on any level

I used to like him when I was in high school but haven't really read him since then, as I recall most of the poems were lyrical, highly abstracted, mostly about ordinary things elevated through that abstraction, and bc of that always at least partially about the potential of language to represent & to refuse representation.

also he only had one eye for some reason, like a bad rear end

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