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This game was made by these people  14 years ago. And I'm going to play it for you, Internet.                    Bonus unlockable levels.    
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I really enjoyed this one as a kid. This and THUG2 (ugh) were the only Tony Hawk games I 100%'d. I enjoyed it as a kid, but time made me remember it being not that great. Replaying it now, I'm enjoying myself, even if I'm stressing myself out a little with all the practice I'm putting in for everything. Hopefully it pays off though!
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Mar 28, 2018 19:04
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Big Scary Owl posted:Underground was my favorite out of all the Tony Hawk games, but to be fair I stopped playing the series after THUG 2, and then when I played the Skate games it felt really hard to go back. You didn't miss much. American Wasteland isn't too bad, but it's bloated. Project 8 and Proving Ground, however, are really bad. Project 8 has a bunch of missions that rely on ragdoll physics (you know, those physics known for their rigid consistency), which Proving Ground is just boring. Both games are also insanely tough, scaling the difficulty for veterens of the series who were getting tired of nailing 50-million-point combos and were looking for a challenge.
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Mar 28, 2018 22:54
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roomforthetuna posted:I hope this thread title is what he has requested for his tombstone.  Momomo posted:I ended up skipping 4 as a kid for whatever reason, so THUG was the game I played after 3, and it really felt like a more natural evolution than 4 did. There's some dumb stuff in the game, but I did enjoy the story mode as a kid, even if I never bothered playing it on harder modes. 4 was definitely a transition period where they knew they wanted to do bigger levels, but didn't quite know how to make missions for them. If you think HD was bad, THPS5 makes it look like a masterpiece.
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Mar 29, 2018 02:02
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Ziv Zulander posted:I've never played or seen THUG before, but right away this game feels like a joke. It's so... serious(?) the way it treats itself. I was laughing during the Chad Muska cutscene, it felt like they were honestly expecting me to be jaw droppingly impressed. It feels like a satire, but I don't think I think it's earnest. Everything about the game is so dated and out of place. From the graphics to the storyline to the gameplay it feels straight out of the 90s, yet it came out in 2003. I think the most serious parts of the story are the fact it even has a story, and some moments later on. Overall though, it knows what kinda game this is and just uses a light plot to chain things together. The whole thing with Chad Muska was meant to display a bit of comical excess for sure. Bulletproof siding and 7 televisions for an SUV? Also if you think this game seems dated, wait until you see THUG2.
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Mar 29, 2018 18:03
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The idea is to just keep a good balance with completing missions and getting gaps when I feel it's efficient. It certainly takes a lot of planning and memorization, but I don't think Moscow is going to be any harder than something like Manhattan in that regard. What IS hard is some of these missions that I'd totally forgotten about before committing to this, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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Mar 29, 2018 22:04
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Someone in Discord just asked me what a "gap" was. In the context of the Tony Hawk games, gaps are the blue text that comes up by accomplishing something in that designated area or on designated objects, usually in some sort of transition from one thing to another. They range in complexity, and they can be integrated into combos for added score and multiplier. They've been in every Tony Hawk game, but it was Pro Skater 2 that first introduced the concept of "collecting" them for completion, with a gap checklist. This wasn't in Pro Skater 3, but was brought back afterwards in 4 and after. It's a game-ified version of actual skateboarding, where they look for spots to show off some kind of skill. Airing over a channel, jumping a set of stairs, grinding a long rail, and so forth; That concept is implemented in the games, but it's just taken a step further to match the unrealistic abilities of your skateman.
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Mar 30, 2018 00:52
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Glazius posted:So can you always skitch the dog for a speed boost or is that a limited chance after that mission? The dog is just for the mission, but the cars that drive around can always be skitched.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:49
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Let's run down a few things here. It takes a lot of time to practice not only the THUG levels, but the levels from the earlier games, so I don't expect myself to update more than once a week. I don't want to put up videos faster than I can make them. I also struggle with audio balancing, and have been working to improve that. In the case of this game, you've got the game audio, my commentary, and the music I'm adding in. I would like to hear your opinions on how it all sounds and if I should make any changes. Speaking of music, the last Tony Hawk LP I did, I used MIDI files of songs from the first four games in the series. This game's soundtrack doesn't lend itself to doing something similar, and I didn't want to make you listen to the same tracks as the last game, so I opted to use some video game music composed by the super-awesome Tim Follin. Also instead of just letting the music run continuously through the video, I've been cutting out when there is game dialogue, so it's not competing for your attention. Are these things working out for you? I notice that my introduction videos get fewer views than the first proper video for the LPs. I've been doing these instead of written OP text dumps or talking a bunch at the beginning of the regular videos, so you aren't really missing anything if you just want to get into the LP proper (hence, the "Part 0"), but I want to know your thoughts on if this is working out for you guys, or if you really just prefer stuff written out in the thread. Or if you DO like the intro videos, if there's anything I should do differently for them.
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Apr 1, 2018 16:11
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Lazy Bear posted:I forget, is this the game where you can change a rail trick without hopping, or was that introduced in THUG 2? Those were first introduced in THPS3 as "Hidden Tricks." It was later expanded on in THPS4 and further refined in THUG.
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Apr 1, 2018 21:35
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chitoryu12 posted:As a punk singer, he's also very strong. Once upon a time, I thought this was really badass. Now, the idea of a guy going off on a group of kids for calling him a fag is just kinda sad. Guess we all gotta grow up sometime. Now excuse me as I go back to playing video games.
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Apr 2, 2018 18:28
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I kinda liked that about the game(s) though. They don't hit you over the head with info about these guys. They're all just part of the scene and considered important enough to be in the game. If you want to delve more into them or skateboarding as a whole, that's your choice. THPS2 had bios for each skater, and you can always unlock bonus videos. It woulda been nice if they continued to build on this and have more unlockables to learn more about the people, but it never bothered me that I didn't know Stacy Peralta's history because the game didn't include a free copy of Z-Boys.
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Apr 4, 2018 18:26
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Just a couple of pieces of shameless whoring, which I hope is OK to bring up here: -I'm working toward my goal of 100 subscribers so I can get a cool URL and make it easier to share my channel. I'm at 67, so maybe consider subscribing if you haven't already. -I have a Twitter. If you want, follow me on there and see amazing tweets like this; https://twitter.com/_James_Games_/status/977396329315028992
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Apr 5, 2018 19:09
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Simply Simon posted:I have always appreciated this game's protagonist for having the unique superpowers of "basic social skills" and "not being a dick" to get him where he wants to be. Don't forget "Doing ridiculous stunts because someone demands it of you." chitoryu12 posted:Apparently those pyramid ledges are a popular skate spot in real life. Yeah, they always take real-life skate locations/obstacles and put them into the games. It doesn't work out so hot at times though, because you're modeling replicas of places where people skate like normal humans with normal physics and gravity, and then trying to skate them with your crazy flippy moon man. Kona in THPS4 was particularly bad because of this.
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Apr 5, 2018 21:15
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Choco1980 posted:Also, the Downhill Jam level you showed last from THPS1 is probably my all time LEAST favorite Tony Hawk level. The gaps are weirdly spaced, and the one way track really bothers me. There are extremely few spots where you can turn around like you did at the end with any efficacy. Yeah, that and the Mall level were kinda holdovers from when the game was initially a racing-style game. Almost everyone agrees they're not great because they don't mesh with what the games ended up being, yet they kept finding themselves brought back.
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Apr 6, 2018 02:50
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chitoryu12 posted:So those "soggy mob flips" you were confused about, I looked it up. A mob flip is just a really sketchy, sloppy kickflip where you push the edge of the board down as you jump. This causes the board to hit the ground before you land on it, which looks lovely. Thanks. Had I looked it up I might not have been so confused as to what they were saying, but I didn't really consider that "soggy mob flips" would be a searchable term. Also wasn't sure if they said "mob" or "mop." This is going to happen a few times because this game doesn't have subtitles and I'm just trying my best.
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Apr 6, 2018 03:35
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Choco1980 posted:The Mall isn't as bad because there's a lot of optional stuff to do like skate up in the lights or the little side alcoves that are semi half pipes. The Downhill Jam has some areas with two spots tops, but it's a pain to do both in the same run, and the track railroads you hard. Yeah, the Mall doesn't feel as linear because it has some more branching patch, and it's a more gentle slop so you can turn around. Downhill Jam is extremely linear, with the only real branch being that horrible side path to get the hidden tape. Doing all the goals in one run was a pain, but not nearly as bad as what's coming.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:14
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They added just enough to make getting off your board worthwhile, even by incorporating it as a move to be chained into combos. It improves your ability to control your skater, and now that levels are bigger and more open, it also has a significant positive impact on your ability to explore. A couple gripes about it is that you still move like you're on a skateboard, like with everything in this game, and that trying to walk instead of run with the analog stick is a pain (but really, you should be playing Tony Hawk games with the D-pad anyway).
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Apr 7, 2018 20:32
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I wanna thank everyone who saw my last update and decided it was a good time to subscribe. That was a nice boost I got over the past week and it brings me closer to achieving my dreams.  This video marks the end of the THPS1 levels. THPS2 is a bit more complicated, so the objective changed to completing levels in 2 runs instead of 1. Most of the levels CAN be done in a single run, but it's far beyond my skill level to pull off the strategies needed to do that. Two runs is more reasonable while still challenging; you need to plan what objectives and icons to get for each run to make sure you give yourself enough time to do them. THPS3 is hopefully going to be single runs again, but we'll see.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:07
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The weird thing about Roswell is there are a few gaps that feel really difficult, if not completely impossible, to pull off even with full stats. There's a code to boost your stats even higher, and it almost feels like the level was designed with those in mind instead. Maybe I'm just really poo poo, but I wanted to have a bit more variety in runs and just couldn't do the things I wanted to do.
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Apr 11, 2018 00:45
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The Tampa Am we're entering into actually takes place in a skatepark that you will have seen before if you played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x. One of the exclusive levels added for the game was the Tampa Am competition level, and the version in this game is almost exactly like that one. Unfortunately I can't find any good videos showing it off. Anyway, I haven't recorded past Tampa yet. THPS3 needs different graphical settings to look right, so instead of swapping settings back and forth, I've been focusing on finishing up THPS3 before going back to THUG. I've got two levels to go, but I honestly don't know if I'll be able to work out a way to get everything in a single run for either of them.
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Apr 14, 2018 23:45
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Radio Free Kobold posted:I really hope we don't do any more favours for Eric after this. gently caress that guy so much. We'll stop bailing him out (literally and figuratively) soon enough, but that won't mean we'll be free of his bullshit. Speaking of bullshit, I've been trying to do all these old-school runs without bailing at all, but I left the one for School II in because that level was so loving hard and I was doing so good for once and didn't wanna start over again. Edit: What makes the THPS2 levels so hard is that it simply wasn't designed to have all 10 goals doable in a single run, even though this is actually possible for every level except School II. The levels are quite large and the different goals are very spread out. THPS1's levels were much smaller and you only have 5 goals to worry about. THPS3's levels are comparable in size to THPS2, but they were clearly designed with the idea in mind that all goals could be done in a single run. Plus you don't have cash scattered everywhere to pick up (although I am getting all the stat points and decks which really makes things harder). To get everything in one run in THPS2, you need to pull off some serious speedrun strats, have really good reflexes, and be very lucky. It wasn't reasonable for me to do the levels in a single run, so I opted to get everything in two runs, which gave me a little more breathing room, but comes with its own issues of sorting out which things to get in which runs so that I can get everything with minimal screwing around AND make sure I didn't overload a run with stuff to do. School II is MASSIVE and everything is spread out in different paths that might also be convenient for getting other goals, but impossible for every goal. You have to do a lot of doubling-back and straying a bit from the path to get multiple goals in a single run, like you see me do here, but that all adds up and results in just not enough time. School II has no less than five different paths to start off from, each with something to collect as part of a goal. Long story short, gently caress School II. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 06:35
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Choco1980 posted:I don't remember, do any of the goals show off the secret of the strip club? That the roof is break able and the inside is a big bowl with strippers dancing in it I don't believe the bowl is directly involved in any goals. It's just a little spot and nothing really that special. And yes, the alley behind the strip club is where you find this game's goat. The one in THPS4 was found in the Carnival level behind a game stand. I can't recall if there were any goats in Project 8 or Proving Ground, but I also loathed those games and didn't really spend a lot of time with them. Just beat them and moved on. chitoryu12 posted:I'm pretty sure that "Thomas" that the skate park sign-up guy was fist bumping is Jamie Thomas. Yes it is. Although with how confusing that line of dialogue was for me, I did look to see if there was a skater called Tomas V, which there is not. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 23:33
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bunnyofdoom posted:So as a kid I remember there is the secret pool in school 2. Me snd my brother never figured out hoe to unlock it You open up the gym by grinding the Opunsezmee rail (the one with the A letter above it) about 20 seconds after starting the level, when the bell's ringing. Such an obscure way to unlock a hidden area. You only NEED to do this if you're completing the gap list though.
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Apr 16, 2018 00:30
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Fart City posted:Hey man, just wanted to chime in and say how much I appreciate your Tony Hawk LP's. There's something very zen about watching someone competently play the games, and you have a nice, low-key commentating style that makes for good ambience. Keep up the awesome work. Appreciate it very much. I don't think the old LPs aged very well and wanted to tackle the levels again and challenge myself to do them competently, so I hope I'm doing something good with them. Choco1980 posted:Isn't opening the pool one of the goals when the level is brought back for classic mode in THAW? Also, I want to say that every level in THPS2 has a secret area, doesn't it? School II isn't a level for Classic Mode in any of the games that I'm aware of. It's "remade" in THPS HD but it's the same goals as in THPS2. Destructible environments and hidden areas show up in THPS2 and continue on after that. They vary in how useful they are and how necessary they are for completion, but I wouldn't say they're in every level of THPS2.
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Apr 16, 2018 03:57
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Choco1980 posted:I have no idea where I got the Classic Mode idea from. Looking it up I see that you can unlock the level for free mode in this very game, along with the Hanger and Venice Beach, and iirc they all count if you want to get 100% gaps. That said, the pool is unlocked by default. Yeah, School II is the level we picked up back in Jersey. I dunno if they count for the gap list or not, but I can show them off as bonuses once I use up all my THPS2 and 3 footage. Someone in Discord suggested I use speedruns as a guide for these runs. I actually do (and have some great recommendations to share later on), but there are complications with that. In speedruns, going a full two minutes might not be as efficient/fast as doing one thing, restarting, then doing another thing. For example, the School II, you might see someone get those first two cash icons that I did, and instead of continuing on and backtracking to the start, they'll restart because it's faster. I'm going for a challenge of getting everything in a single run (or two runs, in the case of THPS2) and effectively using my time to get everything, rather than straight-up speedrunning. Things get even more difficult in THPS3. You can complete the goals in every level in a single run, but there are stat points and decks to collect in every level, which speedrunners ignore, but I am also getting in my run challenges. On top of that, THPS3 has a unique implementation where every skater will have a different combination of locations for SKATE letters, stats, and decks, and you will have a different goal depending on if your skater is vert or street. I'm using a different skater for every level, whereas they go with a single street character, which means always doing street goals, and what they feel is an ideal SKATE layout for the whole game. I tried to pick skaters whose layouts weren't terrible for each level, but as I get further into the game, my choices are much more limited and I get stuck with some extremely difficult setups, especially the last level which I was determined to do with Tony Hawk as a bookend (start with Tony in THPS1, end with Tony in THPS3). However, watching the routes they plan and seeing how much time it takes them does inspire me to try following similar routes if I can, and gives me an idea of how much room I have to play around and add those stats and decks into the run. If a speedrunner does a level in a minute, I might think to myself "well, maybe I can do it in a minute and a half, and have 30 seconds to squeeze those other items into the run." You will see how fine the line is between success and failure, for sure. That is, if all my footage has turned out right, which I won't know for sure until I edit it for later videos. Games are supposed to relieve you of stress not give you stress. 
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Apr 17, 2018 07:26
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Choco1980 posted:I hope you left the sound effects ON for the final level (and turned off music, natch)--that's the best part. Also there's the audio easter egg if you break all the glass in the atrium windows/roof Yeah, I've only turned the music off for obvious reasons. Unfortunately I don't exactly have time to go out of my way to trigger every little thing I would like to show off in the levels, but I did try to trigger a few different things here and there.
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Apr 17, 2018 08:35
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They all have Free Skate options to explore levels and experiment without any time limits or goals. When the games became "open-world" style with THPS4 on, they kinda integrate Free Skate into the career mode just by their nature, but you still have an option to play Free Skate mode without any goals available. You can even play Single Session modes and try to set a high score in a level within 2 minutes, which was also available in THPS1-3.
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Apr 18, 2018 03:05
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Barring any kind of surprises with the videos during editing, I finally finished my runs of THPS1-3, so I'll be getting back to recording THUG now.
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Apr 18, 2018 09:32
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Choco1980 posted:Also, you forgot to mention that when you pick a team, you unlock their layout for the pause and title menus, as well as all their gear. Just a small little detail, but it's fun. I do mention it in the next video, but like you said, it's a small detail you'll almost never see or notice.
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Apr 19, 2018 08:20
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This talk about Tony Hawk in a cartoon made me remember that Tony Hawk was a guest star on The Simpsons. Pro Skater Bart is canon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql64QCiQsVQ
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Apr 20, 2018 06:07
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Apr 23, 2018 03:20
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I just thought it was funny because the randomizer managed to pick 4 of the same person. One is wearing slightly different clothes, so he's the bad boy of the group.
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Apr 23, 2018 14:53
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chitoryu12 posted:I never knew about that "Do the trick list" exploit where you could just keep a combo going. I always thought it had to be done over the horse. Usually, the game is just checking that the gap is in the same combo as a trick, so if you keep a combo going it will register all the tricks. This also worked in THPS4. There are some instance where it won't work, where it's specifically checking that things are being done in a specific order with no breaks. The Wallplant-to-Manual goal from the last level cannot has to be done with a wallplant directly into a manual, instead of doing something like getting off your board and getting a running start to ride down the hill faster. I'm pretty sure all the "do the trick" missions can be done this way though, and some have to. By the way, there's a code you can put into THPS2 (and 3) where it unlocks different custom skaters. Who can guess who this handsome fella is shredding up Venice?
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Apr 23, 2018 15:54
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That does it for THPS2, and we're now roughly halfway done with the game. I think for the THPS3 levels I'm gonna do one level at the end of each video instead of two.
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Apr 26, 2018 19:07
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Choco1980 posted:Not going to show off the Secret level that unlocks upon completion of THPS2? The secret levels don't have any goals, so I don't feel like there's anything to really show off. There's a bunch of bonus stuff I could address, but I don't really know if I want to be that extensive. Even though she wasn't based on a real person, supposedly, according to this interview, adult film star Asia Carrera ended up involved during development of THPS2 because of the name. The character's likeness wasn't change to Asia's, so I'm not sure where exactly she was added to the game. Maybe she's briefly seen in one of the FMVs or something. I'm not a big fan of Hawaii, but I'll lay that out in the video when we get there.
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Apr 27, 2018 00:56
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I've mentioned it before, but THPS and skateboarding were barely on my radar. I'm not really sure what lead me to tune in, but the first time I watched skateboarding was the day Tony landed the 900. I then continued to not watch. About a year later, there was an article in Official PlayStation Magazine about THPS2, and it sounded like a really interesting game. Decided to rent the first one from Blockbuster to see if I'd enjoy the sequel, and I had so much fun with the first one, that after returning the rental, I went out and bought a copy to keep playing. Eventually a demo for THPS2 was released and I played the hell out of that until the full game came out. After that I started playing a bit more attention to skateboarding too, but then stopped following after a few years. Still have all my DVDs of Tony Hawk's Gigantic Skatepark Tour, which people have kindly shared on YouTube if you ever feel inclined to binge watch some skateboarding from... almost 20 years ago gently caress I'm old.
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Apr 27, 2018 14:20
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THPS3 did not have native widescreen, but there's a widescreen patch that works with the emulator. It's not perfect though, so you might notice that sometimes the game is stretched to fit instead, usually after a cutscene transition.
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May 2, 2018 11:12
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Choco1980 posted:A little disappointed that the Foundry recap didn't show off the unlocked room with all the free time you had left, but it's no big deal, there's nothing special in there, just a few ramps and stuff. In retrospect, I could have used a few seconds to do some celebratory spins in the bowl, but I've been more focused on showing something resembling competent gameplay as opposed to showing the levels off and was more thrilled with finishing the level with 40 seconds left and not thinking about what else to do with that remaining time. I'd already done that a long time ago, so by revisiting these games, I wanted to do something different and hadn't thought much about exploration. That said, most levels have goals or cash/stats/decks the require going all over the levels, and the Foundry just ended up being one of the exceptions. Meanwhile with THUG, by trying to incorporate gaps and doing every goal, I'd like to think exploration and showing levels off has a bit more focus as a result. If you're talking about the tiki statue, I need to show that in order to get the old school level, so yes that will be there. If there's something else, then I'm afraid I don't know about it.
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May 2, 2018 15:49
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Couple things: I'm like two episodes away from finishing all the levels from the classic games. After that, I think I'll just have quick gap videos for the classic levels you unlock in this game, and then I'll have one or two episodes for the bonus level you unlock. Also I'm gonna beg for subscribers again real quick because something like 80% of my views are from non-subs and last time I asked I got a nice boost, and I'm SO close to 100 and it'd just be nice thank you.
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