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The Terror is a new, Ridley Scott produced, period series Spoiler Alert:  probably everybody dies and they are almost for sure going to eat that dog, that cat, and probably each other The most recently aired episode was: EPISODE TEN: WE ARE GONE -  Thread Open to Full Spoilers at Page 12! It looks like a 10 episode limited run, so I expect a conclusion by the end. The production looks amazing in the first two episodes. The ships look fantastic and they get some really great, film-quality shots in the first two episodes that have aired. Hopefully it is able to maintain! Giving me a Master & Commander vibe, if Aubrey got stuck in pack ice. There was also a throwaway “Caesar crossing the Rubicon” line from Tobias that was fun with so many Rome alums in the scene. CAST  Julius Caesar as Sir John Franklin Captain of HMS Erebus and commander of the expedition, Sir John Franklin is an experienced leader with a blemished record in the Royal Navy, a man "everyone likes, but no one respects." He saw men die under his leadership on a previous polar expedition, and, nearing the end of his uneven career, would like to retire in full glory as the man who finally discovered the Northwest Passage. But despite his best efforts, his ambition puts his men in horrible danger and he must try to undo the damage caused by his Victorian hubris.  Anderson Dawes as Captain Francis Crozier Captain of the HMS Terror and second in command of the expedition, Francis Crozier is a peerless sailor, but also an Irishman who has reached his glass ceiling in Her Majesty's Royal Navy. He's had to accept his second-class status without internalizing it even as he sees his accomplishments again and again go unrecognized and his expert advice unheeded. When disaster strikes the expedition and he finally has a chance to prove himself, will he be able to face down his many demons and rise to the challenge of saving his men?  Edmure Tully as Captain James Fitzjames Second in command of Erebus and third in command of the expedition, James Fitzjames is a rising star in the British Royal Navy. He has secured John Franklin's confidence in spite of his never having sailed in the polar regions before, and develops an enmity toward Crozier. Fitzjames perceives Crozier as a joyless alcoholic bore, but he secretly knows that Crozier sees through his self-aggrandizing bluster. And Crozier is not wrong: When the expedition finds itself in desperate straits, the confident mask Fitzjames presents to the world begins to slip, revealing a man with crippling secrets.  Zombie Polar Bear as Possibly Living Polar Bear he's coming, He's Coming, HE'S COMING! (he'll eat you apart...he'll eat you apart!) HISTORY There is also a lot of neat history wrapped up in this story. I first discovered Sir John when I was looking for an ill-fated explorer to name a ship after in Elite: Dangerous a couple of years ago. The expedition left in 1845 with the HMS Erebus and the HMS Terror, and it would take until 2016 to find the final resting place of both vessels…  Terror’s ship bell. c.2016 Completed in July of 1813, the Terror saw service in the Battle of Baltimore, helping Francis Scott Key with his inspiration for the Star Spangled Banner by lobbing mortars at Fort McHenry. There was an HMS Erebus at that battle, too, but it was a different ship from the one on the Franklin Expedition (the Royal Navy was kind of like Star Fleet when naming ships   Terror packed in ice. c.1836 In 1836, the Terror, under the command of George Back, was sent on an expedition to Hudson Bay. Aimed at discovering an entry to Repulse Bay, and settle whether Boothia Peninsula was a peninsula or an island (it's a peninsula), they left late in the season and had to be towed. Not long after, Terror was trapped in ice which forced her nearly 40 feet above the sea. The expedition was trapped for 10 months: scurvy killed three and preparations were made to abandon ship. As they drifted with the pack, an iceberg damaged the ship and sea ice pushed the turpentine out of planks. She nearly sank on the return journey to England when uneven ice threatened to capsize the vessel.  Engraving by George Back After beaching in Ireland, Terror was repaired and sent on a voyage to the south pole in 1839 under James Clark Ross. Francis Crozier was now the ship's captain, as well as serving as the expedition's second. Being Irish, Crozier would never push past this "glass ceiling" in the Royal Navy. From 1840 until 1843, the Terror and Erebus (under the command of Ross) made three pushes into the Antarctic. They traversed the Ross Sea twice, sailed through the Weddell Sea, and named the dormant volcano on Ross Island after the Terror.  Terror in the Antarctic. Erebus, completed in 1826, also saw service in the Mediterranean, and was refit for polar service in the 1830s. The ship carried Ross on his expedition to the Antarctic where he named basically everything, I guess: the Ross Ice Shelf, Ross Island (where they also named a mountain after Erebus), all of the fanciest British politicians, scientists, or friends of Ross got features named after them. They also studied magnetism, oceanography, and took specimens which resulted in a book.  Terror and Erebus in New Zealand. c.1841 Both ships were heavily modified prior to the Franklin Expedition. Retrofitted with re-purposed locomotive engines, each ship could produce 19kW and 25hp which could propel them at 4 knots. They were the first Royal Navy vessels to have both steam engines and propeller screws. Ducted vents piped hot air to the ship’s berths from the stoves, helping to keep the sailors warm (and alive) and additional iron plating was added fore and aft. The decks were also cross-planked to help with impacts. Each ship carried twelve days supply of coal, 8000 tins of preserves, 2000 gallons of liquor, and two tons of tobacco. Francis had plenty to keep him occupied on cold nights: Terror carried a library of more than 1200 books. The ships were last seen as they entered Baffin Bay in August of 1845... EXTRAS 2005 documentary about the Franklin Expedition (prior to both ships rediscovery) George H.W. oval office posted:http://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm New episodes on AMC, Mondays at 9pm! Toxic Fart Syndrome fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 22, 2018 |
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marxismftw posted:Show is great, creepy. 
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Mar 29, 2018 06:11
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Ulio posted:The book is actually one of my favorites. Not gonna spoil anything but 10 episode might seem a bit short for it. Although I am guessing they will skip a lot of the flashbacks which weren't really that important in the book either. Haven't read the book, but how many seasons do you think they could squeeze out? I would be shocked if they didn't conclude judging by the episode titles... Not to say that I wouldn't be stoked for multiple seasons: I'm down for pretty much anything set on a 19th-century sailing ship! 
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Mar 30, 2018 00:37
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Professor Shark posted:I will watch this show when it's on sale for $5 on eBay or streaming on something, looks good!  If you have comcast, for $4.99/month you can subscribe to AMC ~premium~ where they are apparently streaming the whole season.
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Mar 30, 2018 01:21
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Hasselblad posted:Loving it so far with one issue: The voices are mostly mumbled with heavy accents. Watched it first when it aired and couple only make out like 25% of the words spoken. Just watched it online with headphones and I had to struggle to make it all out. I am wondering if it is an AMC sound mixing issue as TWD has the same fault (among a slew of others). They used coal! These vessels were early propeller ships, retrofitted with engines to push through the ice! The boilers were also used for heat when they were on, but I think they mostly relied on those  pea-coats and their hardy constitutions...
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Mar 30, 2018 14:38
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Moved/added some history to the OP and put in some extra facts and pictures, if you care about such things. All pre-setting so no spoilers.
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Mar 31, 2018 02:18
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George H.W. oval office posted:http://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm Thanks! This was an awesome read!  Phi230 posted:I started reading the book and right away they establish Julius Caesar as like this incompetent rear end in a top hat, while in the show he's just kind of...normal I guess? I mean so far he's only made that one mistake of not following Anderson Dawes's advice to abandon the Erebus. He also ignored his advice not to push that far in the first place, right? I'm pretty sure Crozier was advising a retreat and regroup in the first episode, but I need to rewatch, so I may be jumbling timelines. They may have had to tone down Sir John's ~Victorian Hubris~ to make it more believable, if less realistic? feedmegin posted:Like Star Fleet 'back then'? Updated. 
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Mar 31, 2018 22:22
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Check out how many Arks Royal there have been for instance...
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Snuffman posted:So this is just one season? Cause I've read the book and I'm not sure more that one season of "Misery on Ice" will work. Scuttlebutt says anthology series, with a new focus each season, ala American Horror/Crime Story. No word on the Hyperion adaptation, but Amazon just greenlit a $1B adaptation of the Three Body Problem. 
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Apr 2, 2018 22:35
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Victorian Hubris Level: 10/10
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Apr 3, 2018 02:20
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tweet my meat posted:I hate that there's a cute monkey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYFzTMyEbA
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Apr 3, 2018 02:34
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HOLY poo poo! edit: haha, drat there is still 15 minutes left! 
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Apr 3, 2018 02:43
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I have enjoyed how they are cleaving more realistically. The bear dragging 'lil Buddy to the firepit was probably the silliest part, and even that isn't out of the realm of the possible. I mean, I think it is pretty clear they are going to go in an increasingly supernatural direction as the show wears on, but I wouldn't be sorry if it maintained this level of campiness and tried to tell a mostly realistic tale with one terrifyingly intelligent bear. If they had left out the bit with it dropping off the seal, one could almost imagine the bear was starving and going mad as it tried to stalk and eat some sailors. The actors certainly don't seem to realize they are in a horror series, yet. I loved the beat after Sir John berates Crozier, and you can see Crozier struggle to come up with better words, or maybe even a retaliatory insult. That was an amazingly well-performed scene with two phenomenal actors!
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Apr 7, 2018 03:02
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Open Source Idiom posted:Wait, what? You're not arguing that once an actor realises they're in a horror series they'll just start phoning it in? Naw, I meant that it would have been very easy to write the parts as campy caricatures, but I think they have done a bang up job of making these fully realized persons.
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Apr 7, 2018 05:00
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:What's the deal with ABC Premiere, do they really have all the episodes available to stream already? Supposedly, but you have to have Comcast to get it. I was going to shell the $5, but I don't have Comcast.  If anyone does have AMC Premier, you should be able to binge all 10 episodes, according to what I've read.
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Apr 7, 2018 15:00
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drat this show is so good but I  ed at the giant bear with the rageface. That took me out of it for about 0.8 seconds but that rear end whooping...  No thank you, sir. 
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Apr 10, 2018 05:20
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Not seeing anything past Ep4 on Prime, but the whole season supposedly leaked in Japan and AMC Premium has all episodes available. If it ends up on Prime I will totally binge the rest tonight. If anyone else decides to forge ahead, too, please spoiler tag anything from the unaired episodes for appointment viewers! Gaj posted:Is there any reason why there arent any sub titles on Ep 5? Is that a creative decision so that we dont actually know what the Silent Woman is talking about and we can only guess how hosed the crew is? In the first two episodes, they sometimes used subtitles and occasionally let the actors translate for us. If there are no subs, I would assume it to be an artistic choice.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:11
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George H.W. oval office posted:If there is one thing nautical shows are good at it’s showing how awful punishments can be. Keelhauling in Black Sails and like a boy in this. Yikes. "Men were flogged on the Terror, tonight..." I never realized how horrid that must have been to even just watch. The officer constantly looking back at Crozier for permission to stop early, and then finally just stopping after 23 was hard to watch. Black Sails and this have done an amazing job of showing why these public punishments were so horrifying to witness.
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Apr 10, 2018 20:59
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Hasselblad posted:Not much point in those of us not binging ahead to bother with this thread anymore it seems. I'll still be live-posting the new episodes and peeps are doing a good job of spoilering.
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Apr 11, 2018 14:52
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Where are you guys binging? Is the whole season up if you buy it on Amazon?
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Apr 11, 2018 21:09
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Glad to see Fitzjames stepping up but Crozier has fallen hard!
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Apr 17, 2018 02:17
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Oh man the rope holding the captain's table up is such a good touch!
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Apr 17, 2018 02:33
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drat that escalated quickly.
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Apr 17, 2018 02:40
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Shitenshi posted:So they're fighting a xenomorph polar bear. The way it's eyes are slits, it might as well have no eyes at all. And sure it can be burned and shot, but it still made off with one poor guy's leg, no problem. There's no need to spoiler stuff that has aired! Yeah, there was something strange about the bear's head. But with Goodsir finding the lead-poisoned tins, you could still write it off as the crew going crazy over one pissed off bear. I'm glad Lady Silence's speech landed with Crozier and he's getting back on the wagon: seeing him fall so far into drink made him pathetic and sad. Hopefully he gets out from under the curse after detox! You are probably right: Fitzjames will crack under the pressure of command. Don't know why people are saying they can't hear: I think the sound design on this show is fantastic! The scenes when they were down in the hold, stowing the dead, was so creepy with the constant, audible pressure from the ice. Where did you guys stream it? I'm on PSVue and everything is clear.
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Apr 17, 2018 03:10
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Yeah, they are drifting with the pack and have changed positions. So land may now be too far away, or temperatures too inhospitable to facilitate a burial party. Crozier had to cancel even the outside ceremony it was so cold!
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Apr 18, 2018 02:26
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Couple of thoughts: Drinking from your own leg is badass. Really glad Fitzjames decided not to go in drag, gotta keep it professional. Surprised by how well Crozier's let down went: I figured that kind of buzzkill would be insta-mutiny. I'm glad they waited so long to do the full monster-reveal, but still kind of wish it had just been lead poisoning. Wow! They ~didn't~ eat the monkey! Was that the doctor that self-immolated, or was he the one who got stabbed? Poor Hickey: he can't even win for losing...
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Apr 24, 2018 14:05
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grobbo posted:I’m kind of stunned at how this show has been tossed out to die in the UK (compare to AMC’s Preacher, which made it onto Prime and was heavily marketed as a result). Oh wow! I thought this would have been huge in the U.K., it's your history*! *Historocity up for debate.
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Apr 24, 2018 20:36
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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST posted:Apparently British Naval ships going to the Arctic were supplied with all that masquerade poo poo Fitzjames finds precisely because the sunless winters were so depressing. I think it's pretty plausible that they used them at some point. The level of attention to historical detail, outside of the whole marauding bear spirit thing, is actually really high. Oh that's cool stuff! quote:Carnivals of the type we saw in tonight’s episode were, historically, a long tradition in the Arctic branch of the Royal Navy’s discovery service. First introduced by William Edward Parry during his ships’ wintering-over on Melville Island in 1819-1820, shipboard theatricals and highjinks had become the standard cure for winter doldrums; as Dr. Stanley explains to a deeply depressed Mr. Collins, “It is a prescription I support for all the men.” Henceforward, expeditions were supplied with costumes, wigs and play-books, with cross-dressing for comic roles among the senior officers a common feature of shipboard burlesques. In addition to plays, masquerades were not unknown, along with Christmas pantomimes, musical soirées, and raucous celebrations of Guy Fawkes Day. I was wrong! Fitzjames should have been in drag!
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Apr 24, 2018 22:56
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bloom posted:So I take it that's not worth watching? I gave up on AHS when I hit the witch season. Roanoke was half a season of "what the gently caress is the point of this gimmick" and then another half laughing hysterically once you  get the gimmick and just watch everyone die...
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Apr 26, 2018 15:26
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Thoughts on Ep7: Loved the haunting scenes leaving the ship and making the final log entries! Likewise, Goodsir's panic attack was well-acted, I thought. gently caress that rocky hell hole island. I would want nothing to do with that place... Also drat, Hickey. JustinMorgan posted:Who's in the bag? 
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May 1, 2018 04:15
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Shitenshi posted:So Jeffery Dahmer is the reincarnation of Mr. Hickey. Good to know. Didn't look like he was eating them, but it was definitely premeditated, imo, because he stripped his uniform so he wouldn't get any blood on it. Honestly, for half a second I forgot everyone is going to die and had a bit of hope when they found the Eskimo party.
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May 1, 2018 19:51
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LadyPictureShow posted:I haven’t read the book, so I was kind of assuming at least a few of the crew would just take up with the Eskimos and not go back to civilization or something. Oh, huh. Good thought there...yeah, I imagine they had to make some concessions like that. Need to rewatch this one, for some reason I thought they just used another actor for "young Hickey," but [insert Goons are bad at watching TV comment here].
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May 2, 2018 23:55
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Hasselblad posted:I haven't gotten to that point in the book yet, but I did not think they jumped directly over to summer already. My biggest disappointment this season was when they pulled up to this giant ice mountain like "well gently caress me, eh?" and then one scene change later they are over the mountain and have made camp!  I needed a little more catharsis after the ice-trek...
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May 3, 2018 17:23
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Cojawfee posted:I don't know how far along the show is, I've seen up until around the middle of episode 10. I really enjoyed it until it went off the deep end and completely fell apart around episode 8. I really like the 1800s aesthetic but the mystical bear or whatever really pisses me off because nothing they do seems to even affect it. I keep the OP updated with the current ep for bingers: which is currently #7! Three weeks before the spoiler gloves come off! 
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May 5, 2018 03:09
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alf_pogs posted:can we start just throwing awards at Tobias Menzies and Jared Harrid for their scene at the start of the episode alone? This was such a great scene, I have loved watching their relationship evolve...after they've both had such harsh words for each other and then gone through such hardships, it's cathartic to see them reconcile honestly with one another. Really thought Hickey was going to get away with it, so I was shocked when we got to "Terror Camp clear!" and the gallows scene. Then I was shocked again when Tunbaaq came roaring out of Plot Left to decimate the crew again. I guess Tunbaaq is ironically against capital punishment? This show has been so fantastic and they have done so much with so little, mostly down to the phenomenal casting and acting! I am really glad they went with a limited series because AMC would squeeze this like a python if it went a second season. Also,  on the great intro. I love the design of the whole thing and the haunting music fits perfectly. Watching the ships get packed in and tilt as spears of ice erupt around them is a treat every week and reminds me of how great it was to see them put in details like leveling the tables with ropes in the first half of the show.
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May 8, 2018 05:18
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Jikes posted:same, and I’m a bearded white guy Wait, is this not a Tyler Perry style thing where all of the characters are played by the same actor???? mostly joking
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May 12, 2018 01:32
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Very cool, pre-discovery, documentary about the Franklin Expedition! I'll add this to the OP! Vaporware posted:I feel like the Arby's "BBQ MEAT" ads as aired don't work with the subject matter. 
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May 14, 2018 21:44
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Demon Of The Fall posted:What’s the deal with the rope and forks? Pufferblanky!
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May 16, 2018 03:39
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By the way: the assisted suicide scene between Crozier and Fitzjames was so good. I really want to see Jared and Tobias in more stuff together: they burn with chemistry on screen. I love their scenes together and have been so delighted with their story arc. Watching them find respect and friendship in one another was so well done and believable that watching Crozier help his friend off the Mortal Coil, after he had just given a speech about not leaving any man alone with last burdens, was heartbreaking to watch. A fantastic conclusion to their narrative. Only one more to go...  
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May 16, 2018 23:39
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York_M_Chan posted:They aren't savages! I loved that he had to sit alone and take his canabalism with fork and knife: there must be an officer's table!
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wormil posted:I would have to said to hell with the boats and booked it south. Of course if the south side of the island is as barren as the center, they would be hosed but they are already hosed so there isn't much to lose. At least you might be able to fish or hunt seal. 20/20 hindsight and they were navy men, not survivalists. Even still, I can't understand why they sat around eating contaminated food knowing it would only make them more feeble. 15,000-25,000 calories per man per day versus extended rationing waiting for the ice to thaw. So gamble on burning through your supplies on the 600-1200 mile journey or hope for a thaw next spring...
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