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Nobody goes to school to be a project manager; they tend to rise up from the development floor after getting an understanding on how everything works at their company and getting lucky as people above them leave. The ratio with me was probably 25/75 to be honest. I'm 28 and am still with this company after graduating from university 6 years ago. How do you job hunt as a project manager without going to the bottom again? PMPs are viewed with scorn, and I'm not really considering getting one, but maybe it's good way to say "I can interpret poo poo for your devs and clients easily and painlessly" on a resume? Or is success in job hunting--and I know this applies to any position but seems doubly true for these types of jobs--really just about having a lucky and supportive network?
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Partycat posted:Just about every project manager that put PMP in their title or email signature was bad. They seem to treat it as a license to just do whatever they want. I have a major problem with this lol. About 25-30% of the projects I PM have a localization aspect to them, and since my minor was in German I can’t help but look stuff over myself sometimes even though I shouldn’t be.
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Jul 31, 2018 14:55
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Oh man totally forgot about this thread. We are going through demos for choosing a new ERP software and it is gruuuuuuuuuuuuuuueling. Thankfully we had it whittled down to 2 bids but still.
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Dec 21, 2018 01:22
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High Lord Elbow posted:Correction: If people who are good at their jobs were good at aligning with people in other jobs and people weren’t inherently lazy without transparency and accountability, you wouldn’t need project managers. Yeah PMs are supposed to be people persons for people who aren't people persons. After graduating into the working world it was just baffling to me how so many of my colleagues on the main production floor, like, just couldn't talk to people either out of anxiety or a lack of social finesse that a client should never see anyway, even if they were extremely talented at the operational task they were doing each day. I fully recognize that later being hired as a PM at my company had more to do with the way I looked and acted every day and less to do with any sort of production/operational metrics I'd been taking care of before my promotion.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:09
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THE MACHO MAN posted:As far as the PMP cert is concerned, what is the definition of leading a project At my job the other PM would be called a PM, and your job would be the next tier down, a scheduler or more formally a project coordinator. Not saying it's not still a leading aspect of a project of course.
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As long as you’re a generally organized person you should be fine. The post above me has some very good details on meetings. I just got a new PM job after about 5 years as a PM at my old job, and meetings are going to be a much bigger deal at my new job. (40% raise doesn’t hurt either  )Something that was asked of me in my interview was, which is more important, the process or the people? I answered the people, because if the people are taken care of, you’ll get good results every time as a matter of course. But it does mean needing to be the conversation wrangler and cutting people off if need be. Not to mention interfacing with clients. This is a people job.
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