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1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer
A PM thread?!? I'm in finance but work with a whole lotta PM's.

Anyone work with EVMS?

I had been working at my last job at simple examples to show why planning 0 overtime is a mistake that leads to cascading issues like increased overtime, slippage, decline in safety, quality issues, & more. Curious if anyone's got resources on that?

Basic idea is your sales/engineering/whatever team creates the initial plan - labor & material budgeted out. The sales side may inflate it a bit before passing it to the customer. A good PM will make as honest a plan off these figures as possible. A bad PM will just cut the figures ~10% and with a goal of coming in 10% under budget. Which they'll fail to do. The cut budget never being reasonable causes cascading labor build ups & overtime needs to just stay on track. When something goes wrong (something always goes wrong) - they have no capacity to adjust as their labor is already working OT & burning out to stay on their original, 10% too light, budget.

The concept falls on deaf ears for bad PM's without explicit, simple examples though because in their mind - if they planned 10% under, even with slippage, they'll still be okay. The last job they managed which was wildly over budget & late was an exception because [poo poo reasons].

Worst PM I've ever interacted with was a 3rd party IT software deployment/management company that planned an ERP upgrade on 2'x1' poster boards. On the other side I can't understate how much I've learned from good PM's.

I'm fascinated by all the "PM is not a leadership role" statements. Organizing people, resources, responsible budgeting & scheduling, obtaining reasonable updates, taking ownership of a project & problems, allocating & reallocating, communication communication & communication... is leadership?

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