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The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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https://mobile.twitter.com/roqchams/status/981064999899557888

Presumably for the Herald

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Mar 4, 2013

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bell jar posted:

can a poor who uses welfare tell me how it works, i cant find anyone in my office who makes less than $150k jacking off behind a paywall

Roqayah Chamseddine's a commie freelancer, taking the good and rare step of actually talking to welfare recipients before writing about them

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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I probably should have specified Sydney Morning Herald rather than Herald Sun, which I had forgot existed

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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Someone who has a hosed up enough mind to say "It's not our role to second guess how our officers operate when they are protecting the community" probably shouldn't have a role where their only job is to second guess how our officers operate when they are protecting the community

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Mar 4, 2013

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bell jar posted:

while fairfax is still poo poo, it probably deserves less vitriol than a news ltd publication, thanks for the clarification

True. Chamseddine is genuinely a great and justice oriented writer, though, and SMH regularly publishing a poverty oriented Arab Marxist Texan is dope as gently caress

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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Matt Guy is real weird

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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Tone Toni Toney

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Mar 4, 2013

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[tony voice] aaaah ... I'm the Prime Minister again and uh, suck me off, thank you

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Mar 4, 2013

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NTRabbit posted:

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

I love knives nights very much

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Mar 4, 2013

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Courier Mail, Woke???

I think part of it, at least a little bit, is like, kids coming up through journalism aren't hard right, so it's either them or printing blank pages when your staff dies

E: same for readers

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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All our outlets doin' a reverse New York Times when faced with the new overt rise of fascism

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Mar 4, 2013

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Knobb Manwich posted:

Isn't Rupes half dead though

e: more so than usual

Any update on that hosed up old bastard?

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Mar 4, 2013

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The only good argument against UBI is that it would be means tested by a government that keeps proposing piss tests for welfare recipients

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Mar 4, 2013

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UrbanLabyrinth posted:

Umm, if it's a UBI, there's no means-testing.

You'd think so, but the safety net we got already is brutally, brutally policed

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Mar 4, 2013

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

I think there'd have to be some testing around relationships at least - MrsMachineGun hasn't worked for years now but doesn't claim Centrelink and doesn't have to as I make enough to support the both of us.

If we got UBI and she started getting a wage (and I wouldn't get any extra, which is fair enough) it'd feel a little weird. Would that be a scenario we're cool with? I'm certainly not rich or anything but I'm sure there's plenty of people out there with wealthy partners who don't work and don't need to.

Yes, your stay at home wife should be allocated some money from the public coffer too

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Mar 4, 2013

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G-Spot Run posted:

Youur wife works, she just doesn't get loving paid for it.

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Mar 4, 2013

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I'm losing my mind about this, there exists the resources to feed, house and clothe every man woman and child in the world, gently caress off with your keepaway games

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Mar 4, 2013

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Amethyst posted:

Paying everyone in the first world to sit on their arse is not the way to achieve this.

gently caress off with this "paying" idea.

I have a right to the good thing in life

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Mar 4, 2013

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

If we could find a way to tip the scales from having to "work to live" to "working if you want to" even a little that would be a good thing IMO.

Some weeks with overtime and other things it feels like I barely get any time with my daughter and that is not good OP

How about "abolish work"

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Mar 4, 2013

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Romeo Charlie posted:

Can all immigrants that come into the country claim UBI?

Yes, but you have to leave

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Mar 4, 2013

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Be honest, most of you either do nothing for anyone's benefit or actively make the world worse. You should not be rewarded with money over the homeless unemployed

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Mar 4, 2013

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Amethyst posted:

The dumbass above SPECIFICALLY talked about the cost of medicine. UBI is not an adequate solution to this, UHC is.

Blah blah blah both are necessities

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Mar 4, 2013

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Amethyst posted:

I admit that i misread metor9's initial post lol sorry. He's still a tetchy little rear end in a top hat though.

Why do you think you have forums cancer?

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Mar 4, 2013

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Amethyst posted:

I don't feel victimized just because I'm calling you all idiots.

You probably should

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Mar 4, 2013

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It was a huge blow to the foundational concepts of a healthily socialised democracy when Scandinavia was annexed by George Bush the Second

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Mar 4, 2013

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Tasmantor posted:

This part is true.

Never forget the CIA and MI5 rolled Gough

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

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Zenithe posted:

Hypothetically, how could you even take over Australia if you wanted to today through force?

When has that been pulled off in any country lately? "Take over" doesn't really seem like the result or intended goal in any American excursions, just a very successful flourishing destruction industry, flattening non-hegemonal bodies. It's not like Libya was ever intended to be state 51

How'd Georgia and Ukraine go for Russia? I honestly haven't kept track of either post invasion

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Mar 4, 2013

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The Peccadillo posted:

When has that been pulled off in any country lately? "Take over" doesn't really seem like the result or intended goal in any American excursions, just a very successful flourishing destruction industry, flattening non-hegemonal bodies. It's not like Libya was ever intended to be state 51

How'd Georgia and Ukraine go for Russia? I honestly haven't kept track of either post invasion

Oh, Palestine, duh

And the massacre of Kurds fightin' for Riyadh, but that one's sort of the reverse

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 7, 2018

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Mar 4, 2013

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If we had JPB's fash idea of a weak lackadaisical fantasy commune, I'd want to be invaded and defeated by the Thai. Thai street food is insane and I want it on every block

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Mar 4, 2013

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Birdstrike posted:

they banned street food tho

Not in my fuckin' pacific empire fantasy

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BBJoey posted:

palestine is an example of Change From Within

Sniper murder is extremely "without"

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Mar 4, 2013

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I do really fuckin' hate Iran war hawks gormlessly insisting that the rabid western intent for war and "regime change" to a fuckin' group like MEK or whatever is so that girls don't have to wear head coverings and the boys aren't forbidden to wear ties

The ur liberal culture war, blastin' conservative clothing off of foreign kids with hellfire

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Mar 4, 2013

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KennyTheFish posted:

I don't really agree with all of this. A large part of the liberal party genuinely believes in the just world. They believe that welfare is enabling and getting rid of it will help people. They believe that government is inherently bad at everything. Get up close to them when they feel safe with a few drinks and it is a frightening look into the abyss.

Yeah, it's a propoganda riddled rabble of griftees cum grifters, they internalised the cynical panic when they heard it as kids, and troop whole heatedly for it now

e: not all of them, obviously, but graduated Young Lib freaks who have photo ops with Jordan b. Peterson (no relation to thread JBP)

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Apr 11, 2018

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ewe2 posted:

I think we're both right, There are those who cynically use this to better their careers, and at the same time they can also believe in their just world. It's part ideology and disconnection. People who genuinely believe they're a better kind of person and want to protect their privilege do not doubt that what they're doing is best, after all, the only people who disagree must be lefties. None of this is a contradiction to them, why else would they be able to grab power if they weren't meant to?

You suck so much poo poo at posting I can't tell whether you want to correct or kill the poor

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Mar 4, 2013

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GoldStandardConure posted:

No, that's still virtue signalling, they are just signalling to a different group.

Sounds like the word you're tryin' to puzzle out is "dickhead"

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Mar 4, 2013

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GoldStandardConure posted:

they are dickheads for sure, but loudly announcing to everyone around you that you definitely don't eat vegetarian meals and only eat manly things like bacon and steak is virtue signalling

how else would everyone around you know how tough and manly and meat eating you were if you didn't constantly let everyone know

Fine, "vice signalling", or whatever, but you're just overcomplicating the term "dickhead"

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Mar 4, 2013

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The code for that is "Jenkem"

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Remember when teens were all addicted to a super kind of heroin called "cheese"?

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JBP posted:

When I used to advertise for staff at the phone shop I worked for during uni I'd ask the boss what to write and he would always reply "blonde, 5'10", big tits" so I made sure the ad would always specify that people with bubbly and outgoing personalities should scramble to apply.

Gross, dude

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JBP posted:

He was only joking but women statistically sold more personal contracts by miles.

What's the joke?

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