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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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NPR Journalizard posted:

I have got relatives who are farmers and they have been trying to sell the farm for the last few years and noone wants to buy it.

Hahaha as if there isn't a hostile Chinese secret agent waiting to buy it while riding atop writhing purple tentacles.

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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Zenithe posted:

It's a servo.

Have we had this conversation before about your crib breaks? They're really dumb and bad but I can't see them getting away with banning personal phone calls and usage on your break. Is this policy or a "negotiated" outcome?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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CrazyTolradi posted:

Lol telling a casual retail worker to just quit their job sure is great advice. Who cares about the costs of keeping a roof over your head or food on the table?

When did you decide to become Mr Realworld

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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If the agreement wasn't dogshit you'd do what smaller businesses do and put a "back at XX:XX" sign on the window and have a proper break, it doesn't matter if you are front facing or whatever horseshit. It isn't your company, you are an employee and you get meal breaks in this country.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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Pinball Jizzard posted:

They have clearly stated in the EBA that they are getting a paid “crib break” and therefore are still counted as working. It’s completely hosed, but the company are working in-line with the EBA and FWO rules.

I don't think anyone is misunderstanding this.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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hooman posted:

She must have been a negotiator for the SDA.

Nah she's a social worker and lifetime politician like whats her name from Batman that lost. She holds Bellarine, an electorate that requires 100% dedication to Duttonism.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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MysticalMachineGun posted:

:same: You really needed to be in the Twitter bubble to follow some of that.

I got the point that Left_Of_Labor claims to have a direct line to Twitter support and is using it to get people suspended for spurious reasons but then the article just... kept... going... and read more like a "gently caress you twitter why u ban me" after a while.

I couldn't make head nor tail of the article's title and closed the window.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Good way to squander political advantage on the Labor stealing scandal.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Tasmantor posted:

I know there's some idiot out there who sees that as a savvy political move and votes for them because of it. Like you know their a low down dirty dog scrunt and think, yeah that's who I want in charge!

If this were an honest to god person, I would direct them to the Australian Labor Party, the home of big plays.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Labor has always been the more villainous political player because they need tricks to win against three word slogans and they've become so good at it they forgot what the party was about. They're like a horror movie monster.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Why did this idiot let Dutton and other poo poo stains get airtime. Iron fist is the only way to run the liberals. Smdh

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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I'd rather that corporate entities were democratically run by the workers than relying on the Greens to give me money.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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hooman posted:

Now who's the pie in the sky idealist?

I was just thinking while we are at the green wishing tree I might pop in my two bobs worth :(

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Do the Greens actually have any method of enforcing discipline or is it just a "grassroots" free for all clusterfuck, because it seems like that is what it is.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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If the government gave me 35k a year for doing nothing I'd work two days a week at some dumb job, crank my hog, play video games and chill forever.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

I think there'd have to be some testing around relationships at least - MrsMachineGun hasn't worked for years now but doesn't claim Centrelink and doesn't have to as I make enough to support the both of us.

If we got UBI and she started getting a wage (and I wouldn't get any extra, which is fair enough) it'd feel a little weird. Would that be a scenario we're cool with? I'm certainly not rich or anything but I'm sure there's plenty of people out there with wealthy partners who don't work and don't need to.

Wow that's pretty sexist.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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bell jar posted:

so business as usual then

yeah but id earn a lot less money

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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UBI for people that want it. Hard work and bad pensions for everyone else.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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Amethyst posted:

What you need is an uncompromised universal healthcare system.

Medicine doesn't come with a free car and house when you can't work.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Amethyst posted:

The dumbass above SPECIFICALLY talked about the cost of medicine. UBI is not an adequate solution to this, UHC is.

No he didn't. Complications can relate to anything and the subtext in this post is clearly relating to being able to do paid hours. You can't do paid hours if your body is broken or you need to drug yourself up extremely hard.

meteor9 posted:

UBI would allow me to not worry about making rent every single time I have complications related to my MS and meds come up, and maybe even let me buy such extravagences as a mattress from this century that isn't full of holes or be able to afford regular servicing for my car.

Seriously I'm at a point where I don't think I'll ever have any sort of advance or upgrade to my life without UBI becoming a thing, especially since brain/spine damage disorder doesn't even put you remotely close to getting on disability in this country anymore.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Come on Petey. loving have a go.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Amethyst is mad because he thought we were talking about socialised open world adventure games on home console and got caught out.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Here we go, now he is going to claim that the thread has victimised him again lmao.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Amethyst posted:

Could you perhaps just stop repeating the same assertion over and over and over again for like 20 posts in a row?

:ironicat:

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Snowman_McK posted:

Dutton's job for the last several years has been to be the face of a whole bunch of unpalatable policies. As a result, he's utterly loathed, and not just due to his own staggering lack of charisma. He's exactly the guy you don't make leader.

So, of course, they'll make him leader.

Actually those are the popular policies Australians like.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Littleproud will never catch me. I'll kill em all.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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This just in from Anime Dave, Turnbull spill prompted by Abbott noticing pro-coal youtubes not getting the same traffic they once did. Has started dating a Turnbull-YouTube staffer to get closer to the organisation before striking.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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Gonna be some explosive something.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Amethyst posted:

I'm in favour of welfare reform on the side of making it more generous. What I'm specifically against here is the idea that UBI is a viable path toward a post-work utopia. I think that notion is a dangerous fantasy in a world where 60 percent of the world doesn't have indoor plumbing.

Not really, we just have to leave those people behind and thank them for everything they've done.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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Visidan posted:

i didnt seek out the position of PM but my colleagues have persuaded me that it's for the best of the party and the savage nation of South Africa, so i accept the position of PM

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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There would be some absolutely ball tearing ACDC cover bands under ubi so I say do it.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Introduce it in my suburb. I will test this dangerous system.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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hooman posted:

Hahahah holy poo poo, how much would this be now?

$120k is my guess.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Welp I just saw the words "angel investor" and you're all screwed nothing good will ever happen good night.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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The greens leakers/faithful are bullying one another off Facebook over Bhathal. :sad:

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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bell jar posted:

Please post screenshots so its easier for me to convince myself not to vote for the greens next election

I'll ask for some screens. A friend of mine was giving me a blow by blow last night as people we know from uni (who are greens councillors et al) are "taking a break" from fb and there has been a war of unfriendship among greens in the Batman area. I think I know who orchestrated the leak at this point but I can't confirm it (it's a councillor).

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Gentleman Baller posted:

What would Malcolm's threat be in this situation? Kick them out of his cabinet? Ask people for a vote so he can kick his deputy out? They would just say 'I think Malcolm will win the next election and have no plans' until someone who wants a spot in the next cabinet nominates them and if Malcolm tries to retaliate to that then he is out anyway.

He can pull his money out of the party and tell all of his mates to as well. The "moderates" are the ones that control the real money flowing into the LNP now.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Goonfight at Taco Bell, 6pm, I'll bash yous all.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Baby, take me by my hand,
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NPR Journalizard posted:

There is a games workshop near where I work and I walk past it probably 10-15 times a week for the last few months and I am yet to see a woman inside the shop.

Why would the opposite of the shop's demo be in there?

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

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Starshark posted:

I don't mind Amethyst's posts because they're conveniently cancered and I don't have to read them. It's when ratbag criag or careless whisper post that I get the shits.

It's like when you post.

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