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Sadly they give Sam Rockwell's character a redemptive arc.
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Jewmanji posted:Sadly they give Sam Rockwell's character a redemptive arc. specifically, one that posits that the way an abusive cop can gain redemption is by killing U.S. troops
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Jojo Rabbit is stupid, evil, and hosed up hth. I am not sure I would go so far as to call JoJo Rabbit evil, but Waititi does soften the books ending, where JoJo lying to Elsa about the war still going on lasts a lot longer than a few seconds. Because he's a creepy nazi kid who wants to keep Elsa. So that does change the stories meaning a bit.
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Schwarzwald posted:I also haven't seen Three Billboards, but if the posted scene shouted "all cops are bastards" at any higher of a decibel, my ears would ring. Sorry, the scene just started with him seeming all tortured, and then the narration kicks in talking about being a good cop, so I thought I was about to see him do something noble after being all distraught. And then I did not see that. I was thrown. But yeah, my post was dumb, after watching the clip again.
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Rageaholic posted:Jerry Seinfeld's directorial debut is a movie about Pop-Tarts that somehow looks even worse than the Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie Yes, but also, gently caress Jerry Seinfeld. On a scale of 1 to 10, how old do you reckon his date to the premiere is going to be? kiimo posted:Jewish people in LA were furious at him way back when he did Jojo Rabbit and I remember thinking back then that is not really the group you wanna piss off if you work making movies I mean, Waititi is Jewish too, so 
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thrawn527 posted:I'm assuming there's an irony there? lol
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Jojo Rabbit is stupid, evil, and hosed up hth. You're mad that there's nuance to the German characters even in a movie that's overwhelmingly and explicitly anti-fascist. There's no other word for this than stupidity.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:overwhelmingly and explicitly anti-fascist. When I hear those words I think of like, Come and See, not this milquetoast comedy.
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A movie can be bad at being an anti-fascist comedy without making it pro-fascist
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come and see was the most agonizingly boring movie i've ever watched. i like movies from the 70s and deep foreign film about serious topics, but this is the #1 or #2 rated movie on letterboxd and it's just a slog. the ending sequence is kind of interesting but other than that: 😴
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Ratios and Tendency posted:You're mad that there's nuance to the German characters even in a movie that's overwhelmingly and explicitly anti-fascist. There's no other word for this than stupidity. Keep Bloodlandsing it up.
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ShoogaSlim posted:come and see was the most agonizingly boring movie i've ever watched. i like movies from the 70s and deep foreign film about serious topics, but this is the #1 or #2 rated movie on letterboxd and it's just a slog. Would you have liked it more if they had kept the original title? Kill Hitler Some of the sequences in that movie are insane and, much as I hate deploying this cliche, literally could not be made today. The bombing of the forest looks hyper-realistic in a way no other movie I can think of does, because they just did it, unsafely.
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thrawn527 posted:I've never seen this movie, what the gently caress did I just watch? I'm obviously missing context, but the clip on its own has a narrator talking about how the best way to honor someone's memory is "to go to work, to be a good cop", and then Sam Rockwell does that. I'm assuming there's an irony there? Or did the guy he beat the poo poo out of drown a truck full of puppies or something? lol it’s just a movie clip relax
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The thread decidedly not relaxed today
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Punkin Spunkin posted:lmao What the hell is Bloodlandsing
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Jewmanji posted:Would you have liked it more if they had kept the original title? Plus the cow being shot by an mg42 and those same real bullets being shot at the main character. It’s not enjoyable or rewatchable, but it’s also not a snore fest.
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fatherboxx posted:What the hell is Bloodlandsing It's not about Taiki's intentions for me or even that Jojo is that far past the mainstream Hollywood consensus (unfortunately), Jojo feels like a typical ww2 movie Hollywood would have made at any point in the 90s. See also: the clean Wehrmacht myth. Also all the mythmaking around the non-aggression pact to buy time (despite the fact that Stalin was doing his best to rally the Western allies for a strike against Hitler, desperately wanted a pact with the French, and was opposed to the sacrifice of the Czechs) Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Also all the mythmaking around the non-aggression pact to buy time (despite the fact that Stalin was doing his best to rally the Western allies for a strike against Hitler, desperately wanted a pact with the French, and was opposed to the sacrifice of the Czechs) Fascinating, I remember a lot of scenes regarding fuel supplies from USSR in Jojo Rabbit
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ultimately the real problem with jojo rabbit is that its self-absorbed saccharine schlock….but im ok with the historical inaccuracies anyway because im an anime watcher who is used to sarcastic and insincere use of nazi imagery
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edogawa rando posted:I mean, Waititi is Jewish too, so Sorry that was kind of the point and why people were mad at him
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kiimo posted:Jewish people in LA were furious at him way back when he did Jojo Rabbit and I remember thinking back then that is not really the group you wanna piss off if you work making movies edogawa rando posted:I mean, Waititi is Jewish too, so kiimo posted:Sorry that was kind of the point and why people were mad at him You're asserting that if he weren't Jewish then they'd have been fine with his adaptation of Jojo Rabbit? Edit: sorry, that probably sounds like some sort of gotcha, I'm genuinely having trouble following the argument here.
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Open Source Idiom posted:You're asserting that if he weren't Jewish then they'd have been fine with his adaptation of Jojo Rabbit? like an internal thing. "youre not a real jew" etc. jews get called antisemites a lot, for some reason
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Peak Taika was Heinous Crime and it’s all been downhill since then https://youtu.be/puy_UyUptqo?si=G_-2Z97PVXZ4RHoE
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kiimo posted:I don't get this joke or possibly just weird post. I simply meant that it must be hard to work within a regime that would be so upset about someone’s honest work of art, that sounds so limiting with respect to ideas and what could be possible in the movies.
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Jewmanji posted:Bad trailer, but Yorgos. Thats pretty crazy, this must’ve been filmed on a Soderbergh-like budget and schedule. My understanding is that he made this in the gap between Poor Things being finished and releasing (which took a while.)
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Open Source Idiom posted:You're asserting that if he weren't Jewish then they'd have been fine with his adaptation of Jojo Rabbit? The more I talk about this the less comfortable I get, as a complete outsider other than the fact that I worked on the Jojo Rabbit campaign. I just know there was a strong reaction in those circles because someone told me about it at lunch who was pretty strict and in those circles and it really really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way that a Jewish director is making a film where a kid is buddy buddy with a Hitler figure, even in his own imagination and those groups were also the ones pissed off that there was going to be a Holocaust museum and someone is profiting off showing images of that. I thought at the time that he was probably going to see some negative fallout from that. That's the entirety of my point.
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kiimo posted:The more I talk about this the less comfortable I get, as a complete outsider other than the fact that I worked on the Jojo Rabbit campaign. I just know there was a strong reaction in those circles because someone told me about it at lunch who was pretty strict and in those circles and it really really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way that a Jewish director is making a film where a kid is buddy buddy with a Hitler figure, even in his own imagination and those groups were also the ones pissed off that there was going to be a Holocaust museum and someone is profiting off showing images of that. I thought at the time that he was probably going to see some negative fallout from that. That's the entirety of my point. Yeah, okay, I getchu. I was just thinking that the guy might gain more notoriety had he not been Jewish, because it'd be easier to make the argument that he lacked lived experience or cultural knowledge. So I couldn't follow your idea, since it just wasn't intuitive to me, but i think I get it now. And, like, sorry, I really wasn't trying to be confrontational or anything. Thanks for sharing and stuff.
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Hollywood is like the cool kids table where they all talk poo poo because they’re insecure and stupid
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I think a lot of the negative response to Jojo Rabbit is long memories of Life is Beautiful. A film made by non-jews for non-jews about jews. Acclaimed by non-jews but regarded with very mixed feelings among jewish communities.
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Still a way better movie than Jojo tho. Even when Benigni is corny and misguided he's a far more benevolent voice. It always cracks me up that basically every movie he's ever directed he casts his wife as "DA MOST BEAAAAUTIFUL WOMAN IN DA WOOORLD!!"
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French neo-noir animated film Mars Express is getting a stateside theatrical release with English dubs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_S9BOQplc
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Alehkhs posted:French neo-noir animated film Mars Express is getting a stateside theatrical release with English dubs: YO this is sick news. Hopefully the dub's good (I will watch it anyway). Sounds to my ears like they went with your typical anime dub voice actors though, which is sad since everyone and their mother has a home set up now since the pandemic and they could have got some more unusual voices. Or French people, even, using French accents. I like dubs, don't get me wrong, but my main criticism is that they often end up sounding very samey. It'd be cool to give it some texture.
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Genuine question here, but is the backlash to JoJo Rabbit new? I enjoyed it well enough when I first saw it in theaters, and it was pretty highly rated. Hell, it even received a Best Picture nomination. This thread is honestly the first place I've ever seen it discussed as some sort of deeply problematic and awful thing.
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No it’s not new but it wasn’t huge because people liked Waitit then except for a loud minority. I think Love and Thunder basically ruined his career entirely full stop. The EP stuff he did coupled with the movie being so atrocious and annoying just soured everyone and so they reevaluated his work.
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Yeah I remember hearing some pretty scathing criticisms of Jojo Rabbit at the time, but all the same Watiti was popularly well regarded. People liked What We Do in the Shadows; people liked Thor 3. But between Thor 4 and his soccer film being poorly received and him being publicly dismissive to some vfx people (iirc), he's lost some of that shine. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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It's important to stress how bad Thor 4 was.
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Slotducks posted:It's important to stress how bad Thor 4 was. Honestly it’s impressive how awful some of those series got, plenty of the new MCU movies aren’t good but Ant Man 3 and Thor 4 were really in a league of their own
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Wasn't it also around that time when it came out he was probably cheating on his wife?
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Waititi's also produced What We Do In the Shadows, Reservation Dogs, and Our Flag Means Death, which are all pretty well regarded. He's also got a movie and new show coming out this year. He'll be fine.
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