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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

What a loving juxtaposition between this and Ready Player One. If only it wasn't written by a horrible, morally repugnant person.

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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

I won't lie though, I'm fully expecting either:
A: this is the most action that happens for a while and it keeps coming in fits and bursts and the parts without action are intolerable.
B: endless breakneck idiotic action.

I'm hoping for B but have been burned enough in the past by crazy people writing action novels to know that they have a bad sense of pacing/escalation.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

He's already doing the Government Incompetent And Bad, Private Industry Cool And Good thing (which is stuff LC actually believes) so I expect two or three chapters before the bad really kicks in.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Yep okay wow the awful right-wing poo poo came faster than I expected. I'm not too surprised by the existence of an emotionally-abusive right wing war crime dad who can barely show pride in his child (I'm just gonna go out on a limb and just guess with the emotional abusive part what with telling your six year old horrible stories about people getting ate by tigers), I'm not too surprised about the incompetent government who is losing money to rando Industry Disruptors who are poaching government money by being really good with guns, I'm not too surprised by the Tex Avery stammering awoooooga hey lady poo poo.

What's surprising me is the rock-star brother and the fact that the author is addressing him needing to actually take time to heal, that's pretty unexpected for this genre.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Grenrow posted:

The most telling part of this is that he totally would have joined the army, you guys, definitely for sure he would have, except for those pesky ol' medical issues (that will no doubt never come into play in a way that would hinder him later in the book). But don't worry, dear reader! Larry Correia's self insert is still a super badass who was awesome in underground fight clubs and is the best shot ever.

Do you think Correia himself uses the flat feet explanation, or did he poo poo himself in the recruiter's office like Ted Nugent?
Dude was born in 77, he's only 41. He grew up in a post-draft post-Vietnam America.

Also if I had to guess what Pitt's medical conditions were, speaking as a fat dude myself it's probably that he can do muscle training just fine but has no stamina for cardio or he has high blood pressure.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

I'm mad I have the same tastes in pizza that he does. :colbert: Also Jesus Pitt, congrats on being on the same page as Wade Watts when it comes to addressing people you dig.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

So. MHI was started by Klansmen, basically? Or at least that's the vibe I'm getting from Shacknasty the Elder's little speech and word choice. Not "tried to kill it twice" but "lynched" which just makes me wonder how many innocent people died before they figured out it was a vampire especially when he says "we now would call a vampire". They had no idea what they were up against at first and they tried to solve all of their problems with "vigilante" hangings. It reads like a branch of the KKK accidentally found out monsters existed and decided "well let's get in good with the government so we can get paid to murder" down the line and Pitt finds this to be a proud and good thing because he's a blundering militia shithead.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Something bad is gonna happen to Trip, I just know it. He seems pretty cool so far, I'd like to know his story more than Pitt.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

...Boone's team logo is Bun-Bun from Sluggy Freelance. Get hosed, Larry Corona.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

And if you can ignore all the dogwhistles hooting and tooting like someone stuffed it into the honk-gas of an airhorn.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Yeah Sluggy isn't, like. Awful? Sluggy Freelance is just an actual factual artifact, it is a coelacanth happily scuttling around at the bottom of a river while other poo poo just passes it by. It's not awful politically, it's just really drat old and full of endless toothless parodies of poo poo.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Frankly they should've been suspicious people trapped on a broken-down boat would know Morse Code or have access to it and they should have prepared to just immediately immolate the part of the boat sending messages out in Morse Code. Only cops and undead assholes know Morse Code.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Samizdata posted:

You forgot about ham radio types.
Again, cops and undead assholes.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Renegret posted:



I am too, apparently!
Welp I guess I am too. Wanna pet that. :3:

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

You explained why you liked it, you didn't explain how your enjoyment of it is separate from its messaging. How do you draw excitement from the action scenes if you are not invested in the narrative behind that action?

And back to the cinematic thing. A cinematic action scene in a 1st person perspective novel is a total stylistic blunder. A cinematic experience necessitates the existence of an outside observer (i.e. the camera) who, even when focusing on a single character's experience, still frames that experience from an external perspective.

1st person writing, on the other, is fundamentally internal. A story told from within a human head cannot be cinematic by definition less the author is failing at one of the two elements.
Okay.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Larry Corndog is a repugnant man with bad views. He has managed to write a generally above-average product for this type of fare, nothing more and nothing less. It's interesting to see something that is normally an incoherent ARE GUNS racist screed play with the conventions of the genre. The protagonist is a gigantic self-insert who get his rear end kicked more than one normally would in this scenario, he is treating women and POC characters with more respect than one normally would in this genre, the gun porn is interestingly restrained and the man at least seems to write with a sense of actual humor which is incredibly rare, normally it's just "I will humiliate the source of my anxieties and invite such ridicule from my peers who I am writing to".

In short, for who he is and what he's done, it's amazing that he CAN write with any sense of creativity. Were he not a tremendous thundering shitheel, this would not necessarily be a problematic book to read.

I do not feel in the slightest we are all won over to his way of thinking. Nor do I need to feel that we must be reminded of the horrible politics because Larry himself does this in every botched turn of phrase or poor word choice or frantic walkbacks. This is just a public wake where the body has been disassembled, put up for viewing and commentary and it will be buried and forgotten, its unmet potential recognized and its awful parentage lamented.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

We get it.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Skippy speaks broken English, is very clearly covering up the fact that he's not a human by wearing a ski mask and heavy duds in the summer in the South and also clearly comes from a different culture with different values and has different societal expectations. The broken English mixed with the fact that he's their pilot for the helicopter and the fact that he's only acting in an assisting capacity rather than a more active capacity (at the moment) does in fact paint Skippy as less important as everyone else (at the moment). Mix that with a cultural misunderstanding where he now immediately values our protagonist Triple HP Gunfast as a celebrity/important person due to his familial connections, Skippy is being painted with the same brushes as you'd see a early 20th century pulp adventure novel use for the foreign assistant and/or guide/friendly domesticated savage, both awful contrivances of the genre that need to die.

Here's the thing: this isn't subtext so much as it's text, it's pretty much just 90s Angelfire "dANNY' SROM WAREHOUSE" neon red-on-black hypertext. There's only so much that can be said about it at the moment because it's plain as the nose on a face. I'm more interested in where exactly this all goes because there's a difference between "a racism is here but then it did something unexpected" and "a racism is here and then it did exactly what was expected", the book is not yet complete and we don't see all the pieces put together. Is it good? No but I want to see the whole house and if there's more I'm going to hate than just the kitchen.

Vox Valentine fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 16, 2018

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Okay I want Trip to be the protagonist now.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

I still want Trip to be the protagonist. Julie can come too.

Trip: When faced with darkness I held out for the light and lo and behold all I met were hick elves, guess I'll just have to be the light I can be.
Owen: Can you install a vibrator on this gun for...reasons.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Many years later, as he faced the slobbering demon hordes, Monster Hunter Owen Pitt was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover ice.

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Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Gitro posted:

Pitch perfect

e: how do you hear a wink smiley
https://youtu.be/nQIXUnRyy2k

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