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In terms of getting that final star has someone done the math on best practices? Seems like you get some decent benefit from combining up a one or two star rather than making attempts at 1% chance at all. Artemia and Annette are at 4* and I'd like to get them the rest of the way eventually.
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Kyrosiris posted:As someone who has a 4* Selene: the above should be taken with a grain of salt because every time my 1* UW Mitra nearly out-strips her on world bosses I wonder why the gently caress I bothered. This is exactly what i was worried about. I do have Mitra though so I'll work on getting them to transcend 5 and some weapons. Right after i finish the big syringe chick. Mediana?
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Ive got a requina and Mitra with 3* weapons and requina outdamages him by a fair bit but it's entirely because of the really good gear she has with multiple attack lines per piece and she just steals all the buffs. If Mitra had enough attack to snag the buffs he'd outdamages her by a fair bit. But I use Requina in just about all the content while I use Mitra on just about prot only
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Feb 28, 2019 02:24
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RosaParksOfDip posted:Whore' the best phys dpses to gun for UWs with stars? I have selene from when I last played. Does she scale well still? Since no one has actually said it. Chase is currently the top tier meta dps. Then Roi who needs 3* UW + a 3* ish UT3 to go online and be ridiculous. The meta 4 man is Chase/probably Juno?/Loman or Glenwys/Philop. Loman is better than Glenwys but he is an npc. Any DPS needs a 3* UW minimum to do ch8 well. After top tier meta you got Lilia (has weird gearing), and Miruru who brings amp/cc/aoe dps. Mitra is a specialist for long fights and should not be judged outside of wb2 and gc as he is not good outside of his speciality. (I also have a strong as hell mitra). ldragon fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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Feb 28, 2019 06:59
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DisposableHero posted:In terms of getting that final star has someone done the math on best practices? Seems like you get some decent benefit from combining up a one or two star rather than making attempts at 1% chance at all. At 3* you want to use 1 x 1* and then 0*s. At 4* you want to use 2 x 2*, 1 x 1*, and then 0*s.
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Feb 28, 2019 07:35
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With the relative ease of t7 and t8 selectors, you can get some critdam stacked gear and make a crazy Lilia. She still really wants UW starts though but imo she's great. Sadly the 2 pieces of 4x critdam fire dragon gear I have are on my magical account. I can make use of that though!
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Feb 28, 2019 13:34
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You should log in now so that when Vespa gives out tons of goodies for all the crashes, you can pick them up. At least I hope they give out tons of goodies.
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Feb 28, 2019 15:21
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Kyrosiris posted:As someone who has a 4* Selene: the above should be taken with a grain of salt because every time my 1* UW Mitra nearly out-strips her on world bosses I wonder why the gently caress I bothered. Mitra is built for long fights like WB2 though, so it's only natural. Selene shines at Lakriel though, her and Rodina are the best DPS for it. So use her there and get dat 1billion DPS
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Feb 28, 2019 16:19
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So uh I see the Transcendence Day event ended early and we got a bunch of apology poo poo Should I just use this all to promote some folks immediately or are they gonna give us a new Transcendence Day soon to make up for it?
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Nope that was all the payouts for transcendence day and the other event all at once. The best part is if you had completed transcendence day rewards already, you got double.
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Hey everyone. Applied to the guild as pmikec. Coming back for the new update after a break.
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ldragon posted:Since no one has actually said it. Chase is currently the top tier meta dps. Then Roi who needs 3* UW + a 3* ish UT3 to go online and be ridiculous. The meta 4 man is Chase/probably Juno?/Loman or Glenwys/Philop. Loman is better than Glenwys but he is an npc. Any DPS needs a 3* UW minimum to do ch8 well. After top tier meta you got Lilia (has weird gearing), and Miruru who brings amp/cc/aoe dps. Just noticed this./ Chase is top tier now? Man I remember when he came out he was hot garbage.
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RosaParksOfDip posted:Just noticed this./ Chase is top tier now? Man I remember when he came out he was hot garbage. Turns out a having one of his uts and decently stared uw and few small buffs stops his accidentally killing himself problems.
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Are there any up to date gearing/build resources cause everything is 6 months to a year+ old at best.
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Who are you looking to gear up? Ask here or in discord and one of us likely has them built.
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Trying to gear phillop as a tank, figure out mitra and whether I should keep selene as my phys dps or swap her out. I do have gladi with his UW. Basically trying to get a phys team on lock cause I have a couple ut tickets, a few UW tickets and a bunch of hero tickets. Once that's locked away, start working on a magic team.
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I mainly play magical so my knowledge is moderate on phys, but here goes. I honestly have no clue on Mitra but considering he is WB/GC viable only then manticore gear with core stats is prob a safe bet (atk/crit/critdam/aspd). Phillop is there to provide def shred for your p.dps so standard tank gear is good (check pinned messages in discord, there is a great example of this). I'd definitely without question replace Selene unless you're heavily invested in her or she's your waifu. She doesn't really provide much for the group and has been powercrept hard, really only viable in specific pvp setups (which are vastly outsmarted at high levels). Boost the UW/UT in this order: Waifu - main dps - sub dps - utility (this can be complicated) - rest Utility has weird characters like Annette, Miruru, Aselica (magic), or Shea (4*+ or bust) that can provide good bonus at low UW (excepting Shea) but can do some crazy poo poo at high stars. Top tier picks for physical right now are Loman, Juno (both NPCs), Chase, Glenwys, Miruru, Lilia. You can get a ton of mileage out of some other characters like Nyx or Crow or even Requina but they require investment and focus but they can be powerhouses. Rodina even can basically one shot some challenge raids when built up and supported properly. TL;DR - Selene is mostly bad, check discord pins, and build up who you think looks cool or has a nice butt/boobs/pecs/wenis.
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RosaParksOfDip posted:Trying to gear phillop as a tank, figure out mitra and whether I should keep selene as my phys dps or swap her out. I do have gladi with his UW. Basically trying to get a phys team on lock cause I have a couple ut tickets, a few UW tickets and a bunch of hero tickets. Once that's locked away, start working on a magic team. So from what you have already invested in Mediana/philop/Nailah/main dps of choice looks like your best team right now. Nailah isn't mentioned much but she got hell buffed recently and she amps real hard now. Like she's just outside of meta. She still can be a tank or a sub dps. Mediana is still really good and is crucial for damage reduction if you don't whale shea.
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ldragon posted:So from what you have already invested in Mediana/philop/Nailah/main dps of choice looks like your best team right now. Nailah isn't mentioned much but she got hell buffed recently and she amps real hard now. Like she's just outside of meta. She still can be a tank or a sub dps. Mediana is still really good and is crucial for damage reduction if you don't whale shea. Naila is 100% meta, she's a necessity in all long battle phys content including WB2 and GC2
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Naila, Miruru, Requina and Nia are very flexible non NPC phys based units they usually wont excel in more than one particular content but you can bring them just about everywhere and be useful. Naila post buffs provides lots of amp, you can use her as a tanky frontliner that provides pretty good attack buffs and with some defense built in. Miruru can provide a poo poo ton of aoe if built properly and even with low investment she can provide plenty of cc to be useful in content. An absolute nightmare in the arena. Requina- She provides amp and damage reduction even at low gear levels and lots of damage on long fights with 3-4 enemies. It used to be that she wasn't really gear dependent but her UT2 changed that, now she can provide a lot of single target damage if she scales both her UW and UT. Also an absolute nightmare in the arena. All three of her UT are useful, with UT3 being good in aoe fights, UT2 being good in single target fighs and UT1 being good in pvp. Nia- Sort of a sleeper unit not a whole lot of people have invested in but she's anywhere between solid to very good in just about all content where phys isn't completely hosed in. She might not be as good as miruru or requina for pvp, but she's top tier in WB3 thanks to her ignore def mechanic.
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They buffed Naila? Awesome. If anyone is my waifu from when I started, it'd be her. I've always enjoyed how much amp and cc she pumps out. I think I built her as a weird subdps/dodge tank or something. Have to review her gear. I guess I'll build Chase for Main DPS? I was considering Roi but he seems more effort since I have to star his UT a bunch as well.
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I picked this game back up recently after a long break, but only played it for a few months after release. What's the deal with the generic unique weapons? It is just to mock the player with a terrible drop or do they have an actual use?
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drat horror queefs posted:I picked this game back up recently after a long break, but only played it for a few months after release. What's the deal with the generic unique weapons? It is just to mock the player with a terrible drop or do they have an actual use? They make for an alright weapon compared to the rest of the crap you'll find normally. I've got May rocking the priest one since I'm spending all my friend poo poo on getting Gladi more stars on his UW, so she probably won't get hers for a while. Otherwise it's just 25 free fragments and a wet fart sound.
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It's handy for some people who have/had poo poo UWs. I remember Claus's was garbage so the stat boost provided by the CUW was better. edit: Apparently his UW is decent now... It used to be "When HP is reduced to below 35% of max HP, increase all allies P.DMG Reduction by X, Also, gain Attack equal to x of P.DEF and gain immunity to status effects." Now it's "Upon casting an active skill 3 times, increases P. Def and ATK for all allies by 10/12/14/17/21/25% for 10 seconds. ATK boost is doubled for the ally with the highest ATK." RosaParksOfDip fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Mar 2, 2019 |
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RosaParksOfDip posted:They buffed Naila? Awesome. If anyone is my waifu from when I started, it'd be her. I've always enjoyed how much amp and cc she pumps out. I think I built her as a weird subdps/dodge tank or something. Have to review her gear. I guess I'll build Chase for Main DPS? I was considering Roi but he seems more effort since I have to star his UT a bunch as well. You still need to get a bunch of stars on Chase for him to be useful in the content he's good in. But I'd invest in Chase over Roi if I had the choice. Really, you shouldn't invest into hyper carries till you have a core group set and geared up. Get a nice set of generalist units to 2* or 3* first before starting to go heavy in min max with high scaling units.
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drat horror queefs posted:I picked this game back up recently after a long break, but only played it for a few months after release. What's the deal with the generic unique weapons? It is just to mock the player with a terrible drop or do they have an actual use? sometimes tanks can use them over their UW depending on stars/investment too, since three rune slots are nicer than a dragon weapon. But they're overall just something to use till you get the hero's real UW
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Cao Ni Ma posted:You still need to get a bunch of stars on Chase for him to be useful in the content he's good in. But I'd invest in Chase over Roi if I had the choice. I thought the best way was to heavily invest into your main dps and then fill out the rest? I was planning on pushing him to 3* UW then start filling in the others to 2*, then push main to maybe 4* and get the rest to 3* after. That's some serious long term planning though.
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RosaParksOfDip posted:I thought the best way was to heavily invest into your main dps and then fill out the rest? I was planning on pushing him to 3* UW then start filling in the others to 2*, then push main to maybe 4* and get the rest to 3* after. That's some serious long term planning though. It all depends on the content you are doing. Chase, even when he's fully geared up will not excel in some content because of his toolset just doesn't work for the content. He's specializes in single target damage without transitions where phys damage isn't crippled. So WB2, Ice Dragon, GC2. He's down right horrible for FDH, GC1. He's middling in PDH, BDH, GC3, WB3. He's ok for things for story content but there are so many better options. The notion of a "main dps" just doesn't work in this game. Getting above 3* is significantly harder and should be done once you have a solid roster than can deal with all sorts of content.
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I guess my initial sense of main dps is getting through the story. The others are all for filling the special roles and whatnot.
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I'm still having trouble with Infira on Hard Mode. My usual party is Aselica/Lorraine/Aisha/Frey; Lorraine now has three stars on her UW and Aisha and Aselica each have two. Aselica was having problems surviving all the way to the boss for some reason, but subbing in Jane (one star) has given me better results. The problem is that now the boss is bypassing Jane to destroy my back row before I can do anything about it. The only other healers I have at 90/T5 are Laias and Mediana, and subbing them in doesn't really seem to make a difference. Oh, and both Lorraine and Aisha have Mask of Draconic on and are kitted out in T8 Fire gear
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I finally beat that node with Frey, Yanne, Miruru and Clause. Basically a healer, tank, strong aoe dps with good CC and Yanne for that dragon killing power. If you're having problems with the boss bypassing, you probably just need more CC. Yanne and Miruru together kept them from really doing much. I don't really know the people you're using (I've only recently started building magic people), but iirc you don't have constant CC.
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Basically Lorraine has massive AoE CC attacks, and Aisha is a boss-killer, but has no CC. I'm trying switching out Aisha for Maria (who is of course the most focused CC specialist in the game) but I'm taking enough of a hit on DPS that it's not paying off. Plus she dies at the drop of a hat.
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loquacius posted:I'm still having trouble with Infira on Hard Mode. My usual party is Aselica/Lorraine/Aisha/Frey; Lorraine now has three stars on her UW and Aisha and Aselica each have two. Aselica was having problems surviving all the way to the boss for some reason, but subbing in Jane (one star) has given me better results. The problem is that now the boss is bypassing Jane to destroy my back row before I can do anything about it. The only other healers I have at 90/T5 are Laias and Mediana, and subbing them in doesn't really seem to make a difference. So my party with Lorraine on her dps build needed a consistent combined 13 mill dps to beat hell, you probably have more than that. I also used Annette and Shea for healing, and that just barely enough for hell. Frey getting her uw would probably be a bit less than the two of them. I was running neraxis as a big defensive tank, so maybe try him or clause instead? My Lorraine runs atk/monster hunting /circuit burst/s1 dark/s3 light/s4 light/t5 dark. This is with 3 coins, and was entirely worth it.
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poo poo I didn't even realize I could have been stacking coins this whole time, that's a great idea My Lorraine is running Atk Up, Blessing of Mana, Circuit Burst, S2 Dark, S3 Light, and T5 Dark. I'll look into rejiggering it a little, in particular she probably doesn't need the mana as much
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Update: On the advice of someone on Reddit, I switched Lorraine to her UT3 (I had given her her UT2, arbitrarily, because that was the one I randomly pulled first) and stacked Crit on her with reforge tickets, and that was apparently enough to do the job  Definitely gonna get her a couple more coins though, that build sounds dope
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I'm in the process of building up a magic 4 man team. So far I'm running Frey, Annette, Laudia and Clause. Is it possible to use Annette as a solo healer and what kind of gearing would I be looking at to do so? I'm kind of wary of doing that purely because Laudia becomes useless if she gets CCed or burst down early. I also intend to replace Clause with a more Magic focused tank, any suggestions? edit: note my Laudia is currently UT3, UW*3, and T2 only thus far. Fortunately her UT doesn't really seem to need stars that badly and ideally UW at 3* seems to be doable for the most part. I'm still tweaking her gearing and starring up the defensive equipment for that tiny bit extra survivability but I basically ported over my fancy stuff from Mitra. I'll eventually build a different set factoring in Annette's extra crit and ditto Frey's for now. double edit: Should I be switching Annette a little harder towards Aspd to maximize OC uptime? I've got her UT that lets me gain some OC while in OC, too. I can definitely drop some of her crit to make that work. RosaParksOfDip fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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I used to run Laudia and never really had survivability issues with her; I only switched because I auto a lot and the AI has no idea how to use her sequential skills  Jane is a very popular magic tank; I'm partial to Aselica personally but Jane is probably easier to run due to how dang hard she is to kill (and then you have to kill her AGAIN)
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Aselica is the meta magic tank right now so if you have her, I'd build her, but she's pretty UW star reliant to really be powerful. She's great though and her S2 is a nice buff for your big bruiser. Annette can solo heal a lot of content that isn't tough, but for anything of consequence you're going to want to grab someone else with some healing output. Shea is good (UW 3+ mandatory), Frey with her recent buffs is good, May works kinda but she's more of a weird CC/buff animal for ranking stuff. For Annette, having aspd is nice, yes, but you also want some good atk since her buffs spread to your team based off of her atk (make sure she doesn't steal buffs from actual DPS though).
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