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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I don't hate them, and suspect they're grow on me. I'm a total synthpop fan though.

I agree the female vocals were ... a lot. But I like the change.

...even if it's a change back 30 years.

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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I can't believe I'm excited about a Smash Pumpkins album in 2020.

But ... I guess my first favourite song of theirs was ... Eye.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

https://thehardtimes.net/music/engineer-removes-vocal-track-so-she-can-properly-enjoy-smashing-pumpkins-song/

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Happy birthday Gish!

I came here to share this Siamese Dream promo screensaver I just stumbled across ... I remember downloading it from a BBS originally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdOs1txSmg

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

SP has only played arenas in Toronto in "my time". The last one was amazing, but I had literally the worst seats (I didn't feel like investing because their previous show in Toronto was poo poo) and ... the arena management randomly gave me free upgrades to the front lol. (Seats that had been reserved and went unused.)

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I thought it was fun and had some interesting stories.

I was disappointed that Eye didn't make the list at all, but I mean, it's basically a proto-version of Ava Adore anyway...

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

That's wrestling music, alright

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

The guitar riff reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1jvrvdQMt8

How does it sound worse than this poorly-aged production?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Low and Slowdive?

More obscure but I'd say Therapy? puts out better music now than at their 90s commercial peak.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Corgan says something reasonable for a change:

https://www.loudersound.com/news/sm...ion-and-suicide

quote:

Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan attacks music industry "exploitation": "Think of all the people my generation has lost to addiction and suicide"
By Paul Brannigan published 3 days ago
In a new interview,. Smashing Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan claims that the music industry is "designed to mess with your head"

Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan has criticised the music industry for its "exploitation" of artists and its lack of resources to tackle mental health issues. “I don’t know if you can be happy in the music business," Corgan says bluntly, "because the music business is sort of designed to mess with your head."

Corgan was speaking on New York’s WFAN Sports Radio, as a guest on the Boomer & Gio show, having announced his band's plans to return with a massive 33-track rock opera, Atum.

Talking about the music industry's failure to properly protect its talent, Loudwire reports Corgan saying, "I think the music business in particular has been very late to the game with mental health and artists. The NFL has figured it out but the music business hasn’t, because the music business is based more on exploitation, which goes back to more of its 20th century roots. I think the 21st century of the music business should be a legacy of finding artists young, fostering them and making sure that they go on to create great music for generations to come.”

“Think of all the people my generation has lost just to addiction and suicide alone," Corgan continued. "It is a travesty that there wasn’t more support systems around those artists. I don’t mean to throw shade at anybody. I just know how the business works. It’s one of exploitation.”

“Think of all the music that Jimi Hendrix didn’t make. We’re still talking about Jimi Hendrix 54 or 55 years after his death. I get lost in there because it’s so sad to me.”

According to Loudwire, Corgan went on to say that he feels "blessed" to still have a career in music, but adds "I don’t want to be on the other end of the casualty list."

Earlier this week, Corgan shared details of his band's forthcoming twelfth studio album, Atum, which will serve as the sequel to 1995's Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness and 2000’s Machina/The Machine Of God.

The album will be divided into three 'acts', with Act 1 scheduled to arrive on November 15, 2022. Act 2 will be released on January 31, 2023 and Act 3, along with a special edition boxset featuring all 33 album tracks plus 10 additional unreleased songs, will be released on April 21, 2023.

Each track from the album will be released chronologically every week on Corgan’s podcast, Thirty-Three With William Patrick Corgan.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

lol

https://thehardtimes.net/music/smashing-pumpkins-announce-reunion-with-original-billy-corgan/

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Djarum posted:

They are not, they are very famously from Portland.
Even this is news to me and I had to verify. They were like the most California-rear end band I could imagine growing up.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Well they can't be everything to everyone.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/ongoing-history-daily-please-dont-sing-billy/

quote:

Ongoing History Daily: Please don’t sing, Billy

Before the Smashing Pumpkins took off, Billy Corgan was in a bunch of bands that never went anywhere. One of those projects was Deep Blue Dream, a Chicago band from the 80s that was quite popular locally.

The leader was a guy named Wayne Welk. After catching a set by Billy’s band, he was impressed by his guitar playing but didn’t think much of Billy’s singing voice. Wayne asked Billy to join Deep Blue Dream, which he did—but on the condition that he did not sing, even if it was just backup vocals. Billy did join up and he did as he was told and kept his mouth shut.

That gig lasted for a while before Billy moved on to form the Smashing Pumpkins where, of course, he was the lead singer. Meanwhile, Deep Blue Dream evolved into another band called Static-X and they’ve had some success, too.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/apr/25/inside-smashing-pumpkins-weird-gig-for-the-ages-victoria

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

CherryCola posted:

Speaking of vibes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-geg350ncc

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

CherryCola posted:

"Slowly realizing that my dad is Billy Corgan" - The Smashing Pumpkins Thread

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

BeastOfExmoor posted:

A lot of bands can go on to make music late in their career that I don't like, but it takes someone like Billy Corgan to release new music that actually taints my perspective on the album that literally got me into music almost 30 years ago.
Lol Weezer managed this for me with their third album ... according to wikipedia they're on #15 by now)

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

The Hard Times gets around to Smashing Pumpkins: https://thehardtimes.net/rankings/every-smashing-pumpkins-album-ranked/

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Baron von Eevl posted:

CDs in Japan are incredibly expensive (were? I dunno what the physical media situation is there) so it was seen as a way to reward fans buying an album for the equivalent of like $40 and I think probably also to discourage people from having a friend in another country buy it and ship it to them illegally.
Interesting. Japanese imports were always $50 in the 90s in Toronto. I had assumed it was a massive markup.

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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Random YouTube recommendation ... heard acoustic versions before, but this is cool to see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbCBWs8j4Wk

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