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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Eela6 posted:

I don't think I've ever seen an anime with Ainu characters before. That's kind of hosed up in retrospect. We do the same thing in US media with our native population, too.
Nakoruru in Samurai Shodown was probably the most prominent ainu anime/game character before this. They're also a pretty big plotpoint in Shaman King. Also Aramaki (the old guy with the dr. wily hair) in ghost in the shell is of Ainu descent.

The main difference is that the 'official' population of Ainu in modern Japan is only 25,000, as opposed to the 3-5 million native americans have in the US. There's probably more, but a lot of modern Ainu have basically lost track of their cultural history, so there's no real way to make an official count. Unlike America, where full-blooded native americans are treated as outsiders, a lot of Ainu have basically been assimilated into Japanese culture. You can even see this in art itself: the word 'Kamui' is derived from Ainu religion, but there's plenty of anime that just toss that out there as a cool sounding word, like Kill la Kill.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 9, 2018

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

this guy who is insanely overworked and underpaid made one decision that didn't pan out partly due to financial and time reasons and partly because it was a poor idea artistically. imo, he should be put to death.

the bear looks bad but I can't blame an anime director for striking out with an idea. criticize it obviously but like, art is about going for ideas. sometimes those ideas don't work. i don't think it means anyone involved is unskilled or a 'hack fraud.' the guy's been working in anime since the freaking castle of cagliostro, and he's had major roles (episode director, storyboarding) on beloved shows like FMA: Brotherhood and Eureka Seven. He's not some random hack, he's a skilled artist who led a team that made a decision that unfortunately backfired.

Crain posted:


I can appreciate the attempt to try something new, but they should have done a stripped down test to see if it worked instead of just going all in on it for the first episode to the point that they couldn't try something else.
im the guy who thinks an anime production cycle has enough time to do anything like this

Endorph fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Apr 11, 2018

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

dogsicle posted:

they could def just cg some horses

oh god, no, the conversation is looping

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Count Uvula posted:

So like is there an actual reason for animes to have such short development cycles, if they're paying for the team to fix it for blu-ray release anyway? Is it just producers cargo-culting?
Anime studios make barely any money off of anime. Golden Kamuy doesn't have a complete death spot like 3 in the morning or anything, but it still airs fairly late at night. When you look at Japanese work schedules, not that many people are gonna be up to watch it.

It exists not to be wildly successful, but to fill air time on the TV station and to promote the manga by virtue of its own existence. Functionally speaking, it's no different from late-night infomercials about snuggies. Due to this, the budget is small. Anime studios, again, barely make any actual money off of the anime - in the case of Golden Kamuy, the people making money will be the company that publishes the manga (Shueisha) and the tv station that's airing it (Tokyo MX).

Since the anime studio is only being paid a small fee for their work, and they won't see any profits whatsoever from its airing, they have to make a lot of anime if they want to stay afloat.

Likewise, the reason for blu-ray fixes is that anime studios actually do make some money off of those - they only have to split the profits with the distributor of the BDs, generally, though it varies from contract to contract (sometimes the company that owns the rights to the manga wants $$$). So it pays to take some time to redraw faces and stuff to make buying the blu-ray seem more appealing to hardcore fans. This is why anime blu-rays are usually so expensive - a show with very few hardcore fans would rather make all those fans pay 250 dollars than try and get a bunch of vaguely curious people to pay 25.

Since blu-rays are only aimed at hardcore fans, blu-ray redraws can have a significant impact on sales, relative to how low the sales figures are. And since blu-rays are so expensive, and an anime studio is actually allowed a decent chunk of the profits from them, they can make back most of the money spent on redraws in just a few hundred extra blu-ray sales. In addition, if the show gets reaired for some anniversary or event years down the line, you can air the blu-ray version instead and have a more presentable product. Crunchyroll has the BD versions of a few shows up on it just because the shows are old enough that the companies don't see that as a loss. I'm pretty sure Symphogear Season 1 is the blu-ray version on Crunchyroll, for instance. So those blu-ray fixes also pay off in the long run.

There are exceptions to this scheme. Kyoto Animation makes very few anime a year, based mostly on light novels that they own the rights to. Sunrise is a giant corporation in and of itself and has enough money and power to throw around that they can just get stuff made by their own volition. A-1 Pictures is owned by Aniplex, and Aniplex is on the committee for a ton of shows, so essentially A-1 is just a studio that exists so that Aniplex can skip the middleman and get a show made themselves. So they don't have to worry as much about profits, since Aniplex is willing to take a loss on the studio side if they're making a gain on the production side. Not coincidentally, Sunrise and Kyoto Animation make some of the most consistent looking shows.

But generally, this is how anime production works. There's very little money in it for studios outside of the general fact of the thing existing, so they need to make a lot of things exist if they want to stay afloat.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 13, 2018

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The anime's purpose is to advertise the manga. By that metric, its doing its job fine.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Viridiant posted:

Any good documentaries about the Ainu?

iunno about documentaries but http://www.okikirmui.com/the-complete-yukar/ here is a cool online translation of some ainu folk tales, with footnotes explaining cultural stuff

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