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Joe Mama posted:Lots more stuff. I'm bouncing around all over the place. That has to be one of the cleanest Ions I've ever seen. I'm driving an 06 Ion 2 coupe, also in black with stick, but the paint is literally falling off of it. Runs good, but the rest of the car is falling apart around the engine and transmission. It replaced a wrecked 06 3 coupe (I really miss the automatic headlights  ).If you wind up using that engine for anything, replace the timing chain tensioner with the latest revision. It screws into the timing cover, and doesn't require removing the timing cover for replacement. You do need to pull the valve cover and smack the guide that rests against the tensioner to release the spring, though. Those are pretty simple and reliable engines so long as you keep oil in them.
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Wait... I see individual coils and VVT solenoids. Uh... moment incoming. Your donor isn't a 2006. It's a 2007, or it's one of the rarest 06's (which means you really have a 2.4, not a 2.2). Either way, you have a bit more power than a typical 06 Ion.If it's the 2.2, it's definitely an 07. The 06's used a 2 coil batch fire setup with an ignition cassette that bolted over the plugs; 07 got VVT added and went to coil on plug. I didn't notice the COP in the donor pic at first, but I definitely see it now, and I see the VVT solenoids (and logo) in the test fit pic. The 2.4 had VVT for 06, but they made very few of them in 06 (less than 2000 I think? and almost all automatic). Since it's a 2007 and/or a 2.4, HP Tuners will talk to the PCM. If it was a 2006 2.2, HP Tuners would point and laugh (it doesn't talk to 05-06 2.2 PCMs - EFI Live does though). AFAIK the only differences between 06 and 07 was the PCM and engine electronics (specifically, ignition system, crank reluctor wheel, PCM, and engine harness), everything else about your donor should be identical to an 06. (also if you still have the donor or you're parting it out.. I could use those front corner lights  mine are sunburned to hell. headlight pins would be spiffy too, if you still have any of that stuff)So weird seeing that engine in a F/R setup (even though I know they did use that family in the Solstice + Sky). I can barely see the tensioner on mine, and I'm hosed if I ever need to pull the timing cover. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Goddamn, that really was a unicorn (also the build month/year should be on the sticker on the door or door jamb, guessing it was a very late 06). But no options above rental car is the norm on the 3 - you get power options and auto lights, and, well, that's it. The 3 included the higher level stereo (could play MP3 CDs, optional XM support, had a dot matrix display), automatic headlights, fog lights, power windows, power locks, power mirrors, keyless entry, 5 or 6 way adjustable driver's seat, nicer upholstery, auto dimming mirror with compass and outside temp, white face gauge cluster, power trunk release, and 16" alloys. It could be optioned with automatic, sunroof, traction control, ABS, and leather - AFAIK those were the only options available (my 3 had none of those except for the sunroof). For comparison, the 2 had a different stereo (same speakers, still has a CD player and aux input, but sounds terrible - still has OnStar and an aux input though), black face gauges, and could be optioned with PW/PL/PM, sunroof, and keyless (normally had manual everything). My 2 somehow has all of this plus the trunk release; I've never seen a 2 with either a sunroof or keyless entry before this. I swapped over the nice autodimming compass/outside temp mirror and much more comfortable front seats from my 3 when I got this one (the wiring for the outside temp sensor was there, so I just had to plug in the sensor and figure out where to mount it, as the original mounting location didn't exist on the 2). The 2 came with 15" steelies w/hubcaps, and the overall diameter of the wheel/tire combo is significant enough that my 2 feels a shitload faster than the 3 did (the PCM was programmed to correct the speedo+odometer if the car had 16's, but the final drive was the same). I have a feeling mine was a dealer demo; it wasn't registered until it had over 2000 miles, and it popped a head gasket around 30k. Didn't realize the LE5 had an oil cooler. Add the driver's side power window switch to my list, if you're up for it. Don't have to remove the door panel, just unscrew the plastic insert in the driver's door armrest and pull it out carefully (unplug the switches, then 2 clips holding that switch in). Depending on shipping, I might also be interested in the headlamps, but I suspect those would be more of a pain to ship than it's worth (mine are yellowed to hell, but a new aftermarket set is $100 shipped). If the shift boot, parking brake boot, and shift knob are decent, I may also take those.
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Yeah, those shift knobs are... pretty crappy. Mine still has a little chrome left (which likes to slice my hand occasionally when it starts peeling again). Ironically this is the shift knob from my old Ion (which had 203k) - got this one with 138k and the knob was in far worse shape. If you're up for it, lemme know what you'd want for the power window switch and headlight pins, also corner lights if you don't mind pulling them (7mm screw holds them in, have to remove the headlamps first - they fall out when you yank the pins). Though I understand if you want to try and sell it as complete as possible.
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I'd forgotten the window switches actually had markings  Appreciate the parts man. I may hit you up for a few others in a couple of weeks if you still have the car.
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Nicely done! If the motor ever goes, I'm pretty sure the same (or a very similar) motor was used on every Delta-body car (so G5, Cobalt, Ion, HHR - the HHR is a ? since it's cable-driven, the rest are definites), and several Toyotas? (Denso is the OEM for the motor for sure on Toyota, and I'm 95% sure they're the OEM for the Ion). Plugs are a little different on the Toyota version, from what I remember when I swapped a regulator+motor on mom's Avalon. The HHR and likely all (90s+) Toyota versions are cable-driven, FWIW, hence the "?", but the motor is probably similar or identical. They're pretty strong for such a small motor. And the GM versions are much cheaper on eBay vs the Toyota version. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jan 10, 2019 |
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So weird seeing one of these engines in a RWD setup. What'd you do with the "front" motor mount that normally goes to the timing cover/strut tower ? Is it just a bracket? And I'm guessing the block had an easy way to be mounted for a RWD setup? I know some of these wound up in the Solstice/Sky, but AFAIK that's the only RWD application GM used them for (at least in the US). And I've never seen under the hood of one. Glad to see it running!
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gently caress yeah!
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Define "overheating". Those motors run hot to begin with, and the factory gauges on cars equipped with that engine (hell, most post-90s GMs in general) were so heavily dampened so that you couldn't see a difference between 180 or 225 (230 would make it just a hair above dead center). Both of my Ions would report temps over OBD2 of ~230 idling in traffic on a hot hot day with the AC on. The fans didn't even kick on until 220ish without the AC, IIRC, and shut back off around 190? The gauge was always rock solid center until it got up to 230, because GM gonna be GM. I forget what radiator you're running, but if it's the one from the Ion, they were barely adequate to begin with. That engine also runs a 195 thermostat from the factory, if you haven't changed it, but I never saw either of my cars under 200 except in the winter when reading OBD2 data, or if I had the AC on (which forces the fans on nonstop with the stock PCM and compressor setup - I forget if you kept the variable displacement compressor or went to a standard setup) - then I'd see 190ish on cooler days (below ~85 outside). Love how it's turned out! I bet you get a lot of WTF looks from people expecting it to sound like an old ACVW
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