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Mighty Dicktron posted:The show is extremely supposed to be taking itself slightly too seriously to the point that you're supposed to find it comedic, yes. It's the story of a woman who just wants to be a cute little girl, finds that within a vicious shooter, becomes a vicious PvP expert accidentally due to picking desert pink, befriends a psycho with some serious issues and decides the best way to tackle those issues is to kill her in one of the game's biggest tournaments. Point at anything remotely serious here. It treats the melodrama as just that - melodrama. And laughs at it. It definitely slows down at times, and I'd agree it slows for too long very often, but some of the stuff folks are complaining about is pretty dumb IMHO.
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EponymousMrYar posted:The only time the game approached being serious was M's IRL infodump about Pito's situation and the backstory about that. Oh, yes. So serious. I remember the scene where M pulls a kabe-don to confess to LLENN that he loves Pito. The height of drama, especially when the framing emphasized how small M was in comparison. Pure. loving. Drama.
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Jun 27, 2018 02:57
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Beato Believer posted:♬♬♬ I put that to the Freakazoid Theme in my head personally. It still fits.
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Jun 27, 2018 02:58
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chiasaur11 posted:Oh, yes. So serious. i don't think one of the handful of good gags in that episode excuses it from being criticized when it definitely had seriousness that wasn't really tempered by humor or taken far enough to be humorous in and of itself.
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Jun 27, 2018 03:03
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chiasaur11 posted:Oh, yes. So serious. And her just thinking 'he is a creep, I don't give a poo poo' at every point in the discussion. If that was shorter, it would've worked for me. It was funny, but ill-presented to truly capitalise on the comedic value of that scene outside of that framing.
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Jun 27, 2018 03:47
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Waci posted:Reminder it is literally a group of children playing a video game, not some group of jaded trained professionals in a life-or-death situation. Which made it all the more hilarious when the MMTM leader guy is freaking out at Pito laughing as she kills him and his buddy and he's just screaming "do you think this is some kind of game or something"? Because that's exactly what it is. I think the last couple of coalition guys Pito tortures before killing by leaving them dangling over a ledge holding on to one another do the same thing too. HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:They drove to a literal field of geysers. That's a feature, and Pito was planning on forcing them into one. The one tactic they don't explain with a full scene (but still do with an offhand comment) is the one that gets missed out. I was really hoping Llenn would urge Fuka to drive over one to somehow take advantage of it to make a surprise attack. No idea how, but it's definitely what I was hoping for as soon as the geyser's started popping. As is, the geyser's being there seems to mostly have been solely to populate the background with something that wasn't just a flat field, and not for anyone to take advantage of environmentally. Which is disappointing.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It's the story of a woman who just wants to be a cute little girl, finds that within a vicious shooter, becomes a vicious PvP expert accidentally due to picking desert pink, befriends a psycho with some serious issues and decides the best way to tackle those issues is to kill her in one of the game's biggest tournaments. Point at anything remotely serious here. It treats the melodrama as just that - melodrama. And laughs at it. It definitely slows down at times, and I'd agree it slows for too long very often, but some of the stuff folks are complaining about is pretty dumb IMHO. We even got a sad scene of all of LLENN's allies getting themselves killed in a heroic suicide charge while LLENN begs them not to and then less than five minutes later it cuts to them sitting in a bar drinking virtual beer.
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Jun 27, 2018 05:05
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Kanos posted:heroic suicide charge
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:And her just thinking 'he is a creep, I don't give a poo poo' at every point in the discussion. If that was shorter, it would've worked for me. It was funny, but ill-presented to truly capitalise on the comedic value of that scene outside of that framing. Yeah. When people say "Those scenes should have been punchier", I can sympathize. But when it's treated like it's purely dramatic, it doesn't really mesh with the presentation.
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Jun 27, 2018 06:37
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Omnicrom posted:I put that to the Freakazoid Theme in my head personally. It still fits. 
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tsob posted:Which made it all the more hilarious when the MMTM leader guy is freaking out at Pito laughing as she kills him and his buddy and he's just screaming "do you think this is some kind of game or something"? Because that's exactly what it is. I think the last couple of coalition guys Pito tortures before killing by leaving them dangling over a ledge holding on to one another do the same thing too. tbf Pito is being the worst kind of player and also it's not cool to torture people even if it's virtual.
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Kyte posted:tbf Pito is being the worst kind of player and also it's not cool to torture people even if it's virtual. yeah teabagging isnt cool
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Jun 27, 2018 16:23
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I can't imagine too many people complaining being tb'd by Pito
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Kyte posted:tbf Pito is being the worst kind of player and also it's not cool to torture people even if it's virtual. this is the kind of attitude that ruined ultima online
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Jun 27, 2018 20:10
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GGO does appear to have limited pain feedback, which does probably make torturing other players a bit more impolite.
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Jun 27, 2018 20:30
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shoulda cut off more dicks tbqh
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Jun 27, 2018 20:38
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AnacondaHL posted:shoulda cut off more dicks tbqh Isn't that LLENN's job?
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kirtar posted:Isn't that LLENN's job? ♬♬♬ Who cuts off dicks in a virtual way? Who's blinding fast as she hunts her prey? Who smiles when at last it is time to slay? Psycho LLENN! Psycho LLENN! Psycho LLENN! ♬♬♬ okay, I'll stop.
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Jun 27, 2018 21:35
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Darth Walrus posted:GGO does appear to have limited pain feedback, which does probably make torturing other players a bit more impolite. It also has a resign function, which makes complaining about in-game torture silly and pointless.
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Jun 27, 2018 22:30
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you have to be able to use the UI to resign though, which requires free hands.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:44
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It seems like you can't resign if you're restrained. I think every time it's been shown the character has had to go through an a physical process to do it.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:44
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It automatically logs you out if you're in a certain amount of distress anyway. Wimps. Real gamers give themselves heart attacks and die in shock playing milsims with a Nervgear.
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I also can't imagine the pain feedback is actually painful because there is absolutely no way the vast, vast majority of people would play a game where you can be forced to feel one trillionth of the pain of having your balls cut off with a knife or having your limbs shot off or being incinerated. I mean yeah you'd get some people who would be into that but probably not enough to keep an MMO afloat. M's terror at the prospect of being killed would probably be the norm rather than a weird exception.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:53
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At the risk of SAO spoilers, there's no real pain in any of these World Seed VR games.
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Jun 27, 2018 23:54
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Well, yeah, but someone pinning you down and repeatedly flicking you in the face (translation: blowing off your limbs and using you as a bullet-piñata) is probably pretty unpleasant and annoying. It‘s not exactly good etiquette.
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ChronoReverse posted:At the risk of SAO spoilers, there's no real pain in any of these World Seed VR games. HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It automatically logs you out if you're in a certain amount of distress anyway. Wimps. Real gamers give themselves heart attacks and die in shock playing milsims with a Nervgear. Well we know of at least two people that were for sure using Nervegears in GGO, though I have to imagine the guy playing Death Gun was also using one. Also found this a few pages back: El Burbo posted:M sez kirtar fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jun 28, 2018 |
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There's enough pain feedback so things feel right. Like how the sound of a gun in a game adds a whole lot to the feel of that gun. The better the sound, the more satisfying it is and the more you buy into the versimilitude of being the one to fire that gun.
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Getting shot in GGO probably at least tickles. If only to help you know where you're being shot from.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Getting shot in GGO probably at least tickles. If only to help you know where you're being shot from. Two minutes of tickle torture is not a war crime.
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kirtar posted:ALO doesn't count as seed since it was basically a copy of the SAO infrastructure right (minus the "if you die in game you die in real life" part)? Though I guess that involved abuse of admin privileges. With the Amusphere, I don't think it's possible to sustain real pain for long anyway.
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Fuka is getting delimbed a lot and doesnt seem to mind too much
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Waci posted:Two minutes of tickle torture is not a war crime. It was in the tickle wars. You weren't there, man. You don't know.
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ChronoReverse posted:ALO is also the only one where you can turn off the pain absorber altogether so far. Unless SAO:A changes things up, all seed games don't have severe real pain. Yeah I imagine the elevated heart rate and such caused by any real pain would trigger the autodisconnect anyways. Hell, Karen was disconnected just from the reaction from her height complex.
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Beato Believer posted:It was in the tickle wars. You weren't there, man. You don't know. I served 6 years in elementary school 
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Waci posted:I served 6 years in elementary school Oh wow, you did hard time. Sorry, I withdraw my previous comment.
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The GGO players all hate Pito's brutality because they are roleplayers and it ruins their immersion if someone threats GGO like a game. Grenadefriend played some other games before that might have an actually competitive esports scene. Where the top tournaments aren't dominated by people bringing knifes to gunfights or who just started playing. So she just ignores losing a limb, if the game mechanics treat it like a minor injury.
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I get the impression that your in-game stats determine how much pain feedback you get. Tankier characters do react less to being injured (Fuka, one of the toughest we’ve seen, barely seems to notice), while lighter, faster characters, and LLENN in particular (who we know skipped HP day) really don’t handle getting shot well.
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tonberrytoby posted:The GGO players all hate Pito's brutality because they are roleplayers and it ruins their immersion if someone threats GGO like a game. GGO has a really active competitive scene, though. It's the team scene which is new and tiny.
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