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freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

GalacticAcid posted:

Holo modor
Holo fodor
Here I am at
Camp Grenada

Camp is very
Entertaining
And they say we’ll have some food if it starts raining

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

wizard on a water slide posted:

christians have been waiting on reparations since the death of our lord

Jesus was the first person to ever commit suicide by cop

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
Holo modor
Holo fodor
Here I am at
Camp Poltava

Harvest very
underwhelming
And they say we’ll have some grain
if it starts raining

Rhukatah
Feb 26, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

GalacticAcid posted:

Holo modor
Holo fodor
Here I am at
Camp Grenada

Camp is very
Entertaining
And they say we’ll have some food if it starts raining

:holymoley:

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Woozle wozzle ??? That's what passes for entertainment these days woozle wozzle???

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


GalacticAcid posted:

Holo modor
Holo fodor
Here I am at
Camp Grenada

Camp is very
Entertaining
And they say we’ll have some food if it starts raining

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

BEAR GRYLLZ posted:

dunno about the holodomor OP but i do know about the bengal famine, in which winston churchill personally ordered 2-3 million Indians starved to death during WWII

weird that we hear so much about the former, and yet most americans have literally never even heard of the latter...

i can assure you most americans have never heard of either

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

hell i bet if you did one of those man on street segments quizzing people about holodomor most of the responses you'd get would involve game of thrones

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

GalacticAcid posted:

Holo modor
Holo fodor
Here I am at
Camp Grenada

Camp is very
Entertaining
And they say we’ll have some food if it starts raining

:hmbol:

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Percelus posted:

hell i bet if you did one of those man on street segments quizzing people about holodomor most of the responses you'd get would involve game of thrones



:chloe:

im not getting in that bus

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
Reminder that the Canadian government funded that with more than a million dollars

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Minge Binge posted:

Reminder that the Canadian government funded that with more than a million dollars

that's appalling...

also ffs @ least scientology ppl get off their rotten potato rear end and hustle

they are selling genocide like a 1992 Ford Escort imo

:effort:

Grand Theft Autobot
Feb 28, 2008

I'm something of a fucking idiot myself
Are Bengalis white?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Minge Binge posted:

Reminder that the Canadian government funded that with more than a million dollars

A million dollars worth of fascist propaganda well spent.

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

I can't wait for our victims of communism memorial

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
it looks like goatse lol

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
It was localized bad weather. But Stalin certainly knew starvation were happening, and didn't do poo poo. Kind of like Winston Churchill.

Mariana Horchata posted:



:chloe:

im not getting in that bus

Anyone who gets on that bus willingly, gets the Gulag.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
yeah i hear holodomor did some unsavory poo poo with groupies in that bus on their last tour

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
finally we can post the poem on this twitter thread for great meltdowns


https://twitter.com/ChibiAJackson/s...3D79%23lastpost

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is


i always wonder if these people are being dishonest or literally just that dumb i mean someone like dinesh d'souza who looks and acts like a weasel is clearly dishonest but then again he went to prison for loving campaign finance violations so maybe they are incredibly dishonest and dumb

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Percelus posted:

i always wonder if these people are being dishonest or literally just that dumb i mean someone like dinesh d'souza who looks and acts like a weasel is clearly dishonest but then again he went to prison for loving campaign finance violations so maybe they are incredibly dishonest and dumb

the lumpenproles my lad extremely online lumpenproles

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Percelus posted:

i always wonder if these people are being dishonest or literally just that dumb i mean someone like dinesh d'souza who looks and acts like a weasel is clearly dishonest but then again he went to prison for loving campaign finance violations so maybe they are incredibly dishonest and dumb

i used wonder this too until i realized that yea, its both

these people are simultaneously too stupid to conceptualize any nuanced or abstract ideas, and also spewing poo poo they know isnt true as a grift. deep down they really are idiots who believe the broad strokes of their asinine ideology, theyre just also evil pieces of poo poo telling lies for personal gain

like with nazis, they know their public arguments are facile bullshit lies, but they also believe in the underlying core themes of these arguments

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Wheeee posted:

i used wonder this too until i realized that yea, its both

these people are simultaneously too stupid to conceptualize any nuanced or abstract ideas, and also spewing poo poo they know isnt true as a grift. deep down they really are idiots who believe the broad strokes of their asinine ideology, theyre just also evil pieces of poo poo telling lies for personal gain

like with nazis, they know their public arguments are facile bullshit lies, but they also believe in the underlying core themes of these arguments

the noble lie

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Percelus posted:

i always wonder if these people are being dishonest or literally just that dumb i mean someone like dinesh d'souza who looks and acts like a weasel is clearly dishonest but then again he went to prison for loving campaign finance violations so maybe they are incredibly dishonest and dumb

Take a look at the replies, and they are chatting with someone posting helicopter and groyper memes. So i'd say it's a bit of both.

bearbaiter
May 30, 2011

Tokamak posted:

Take a look at the replies

this is a bad idea

Pinback
Jul 22, 2012

I've been having real awful dreams about giant apocalyptic machinery
just mowing us all down...
You can quibble pedantic details, to what extent it's mismanagement or neglect or whatever, but idk -- it seems weird to me that denial of every other historical genocide/colonial famine/atrocity (rightfully) warrants ridicule and scorn but this one, this one alone, we're supposed to all be super skeptical of and call it Nazi propaganda just because it makes some jerks who happened to use the label "communist" look bad.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
hmmm


wrong

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Pinback posted:

You can quibble pedantic details, to what extent it's mismanagement or neglect or whatever, but idk -- it seems weird to me that denial of every other historical genocide/colonial famine/atrocity (rightfully) warrants ridicule and scorn but this one, this one alone, we're supposed to all be super skeptical of and call it Nazi propaganda just because it makes some jerks who happened to use the label "communist" look bad.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

People are "skeptical" about the Holodomor because the "Holodomor" is literally a conspiracy theory about Jewish Bolsheviks trying to starve Ukrainians for being Christian.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Pinback posted:

You can quibble pedantic details, to what extent it's mismanagement or neglect or whatever, but idk -- it seems weird to me that denial of every other historical genocide/colonial famine/atrocity (rightfully) warrants ridicule and scorn but this one, this one alone, we're supposed to all be super skeptical of and call it Nazi propaganda just because it makes some jerks who happened to use the label "communist" look bad.

its literally nazi propaganda spread by former OUN collaborators and garbage emigre spawn

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/vv.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

the power of projection

Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 00:46 on May 2, 2018

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Yossarian-22 posted:

Wasn't Ukraine the "bread basket" of the USSR?

i think about this post a lot

tag youre fat
Aug 16, 2013

C'est l'homme ideal
charme au masculin
if stalin could single-handedly beat the nazis why couldn't he single-handedly stop a famine

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
since opening this thread i've decided by the way that the holodomor definitely DIDN'T happen. thanks for everyone s earnest replies youve helped me grow as a person

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

paul_soccer10 posted:

since opening this thread i've decided by the way that the holodomor definitely DIDN'T happen. thanks for everyone s earnest replies youve helped me grow as a person

You're welcome. :)

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

paul_soccer10 posted:

since opening this thread i've decided by the way that the holodomor definitely DIDN'T happen. thanks for everyone s earnest replies youve helped me grow as a person

god bless

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

All I know is that if Karl Marx would have GOTTEN A loving JOB instead of writing that trash pile of pseudo-economic dreck, the government in Moscow never would have had any imperialist designs in the region

Pinback
Jul 22, 2012

I've been having real awful dreams about giant apocalyptic machinery
just mowing us all down...
Ok so if I'm to understand your point correctly 1-2 million people still starved to fuel Stalin's (as metonym for the state-regime of the era) plans for armament and industrialization.

Obviously a Jewish-Bolshevik blahblah poo poo is absurd but this still strikes me as an indefensible atrocity, and a far cry from "it didn't happen."

Famines under the Tsar are atrocities too, as is the famine in Bangladesh and the Nazi's theft of food and resources from occupied territories. But it's still fuckin terrible and I don't see the point of equivocation on that, unless your one of those full-blown "Stalin Did Nothing Wrong" nerds, which, even still, lol fanboying for long dead state leaders ok.

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

Over Easy posted:

All I know is that if Karl Marx would have GOTTEN A loving JOB instead of writing that trash pile of pseudo-economic dreck, the government in Moscow never would have had any imperialist designs in the region

karl marx should have written a howard hughes slashfic instead like ayn rand

idk who the howard hughes of the 1800s is and looking them up isn't happening

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pinback posted:

Ok so if I'm to understand your point correctly 1-2 million people still starved to fuel Stalin's (as metonym for the state-regime of the era) plans for armament and industrialization.

Obviously a Jewish-Bolshevik blahblah poo poo is absurd but this still strikes me as an indefensible atrocity, and a far cry from "it didn't happen."

Famines under the Tsar are atrocities too, as is the famine in Bangladesh and the Nazi's theft of food and resources from occupied territories. But it's still fuckin terrible and I don't see the point of equivocation on that, unless your one of those full-blown "Stalin Did Nothing Wrong" nerds, which, even still, lol fanboying for long dead state leaders ok.

Yes, but then Stalins crime here is no different then the crime of Churchill in Bangledesh.

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Pinback posted:

Ok so if I'm to understand your point correctly 1-2 million people still starved to fuel Stalin's (as metonym for the state-regime of the era) plans for armament and industrialization.

Obviously a Jewish-Bolshevik blahblah poo poo is absurd but this still strikes me as an indefensible atrocity, and a far cry from "it didn't happen."

Famines under the Tsar are atrocities too, as is the famine in Bangladesh and the Nazi's theft of food and resources from occupied territories. But it's still fuckin terrible and I don't see the point of equivocation on that, unless your one of those full-blown "Stalin Did Nothing Wrong" nerds, which, even still, lol fanboying for long dead state leaders ok.

no one here said that a famine didn't happen or that it wasn't bad

a famine is different from the political exploitation of an event by nazis with the purpose of defamation of soviet policies in order to justify the Ukranian nationalist - Nazi collaboration in murdering and starving millions of their own countrymen.

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