Wrestling Observer Awards mega recap: Who's really the best ever?

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Lucasar: Jan 25, 2005; save a few for lefty too

Is there a reason why Suzuki's score is so meager as a technical wrestler?

# ? Apr 25, 2018 03:20

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# ? May 5, 2024 16:22

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

I'm angrier that Negro Casas is at 2 than not listed at all.

# ? Apr 25, 2018 04:07

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

Lucasar posted:

Is there a reason why Suzuki's score is so meager as a technical wrestler?

He spent most of his career in shootfighting so there aren't that many years where he was actually eligible as a pro wrestler

E: I looked it up and MiSu actually did wrestling a lot longer than I remember. I guess your real answer is "nobody was watching All Japan in the mid-2000s."

Benne fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 25, 2018

# ? Apr 25, 2018 04:22

D.N. Nation: Feb 1, 2012

I'm quite curious about this random CM Punk nod...in 2001.

# ? Apr 25, 2018 04:31

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

D.N. Nation posted:

I'm quite curious about this random CM Punk nod...in 2001.

It was actually 2011, the year of his 5-star match with Cena. Even then I'm surprised he made the cut.

# ? Apr 25, 2018 04:37

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

BEST BRAWLER

This one is for the slobberknockers, the bowling-shoes ugly, the men tougher than a $2 dollar steak.

The Bruiser Brody Memorial was a fascinating category to track over the years, because you can see a clear dividing line between different eras. From old-school tough guys, to ECW originals and their imitators, to death match specialists, and to the modern-era hosses that do a little of everything, there's something here for everyone to enjoy.

:siren:

COMPLETE YEAR-BY-YEAR RESULTS https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ban2075ODWrZ3yZ9J1UnYb-hilhHpjJfuS6ow6FafY/edit?usp=sharing

code:

Mick Foley	98
Bruiser Brody	86
Chris Benoit	76
Samoa Joe	75
Stan Hansen	74
Kevin Steen/Owens	62
Masato Tanaka	59
Togi Makabe	55
Terry Gordy	52
Tomohiro Ishii	49
Terry Funk	47
Katsuyori Shibata	46
Necro Butcher	45
Brock Lesnar	40
Steve Austin	37
Fit Finlay	31
Triple H	31
Tommy Dreamer	30
Atsushi Onita	28
Takeshi Morishima	27
Vader	26
Raven	26
Yoshihiro Takayama	25
Abyss	25
Homicide	24
Sabu	22
The Sandman	21
Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose	21
Bully Ray/Bubba Ray Dudley	19
Kazunari Murakami	17
Sheamus	17
Chris Hero	16
Minoru Suzuki	15
Pentagon Jr.	14
The Undertaker	13
Jim Duggan	12
Tomoaki Honma	12
Aja Kong	11
Public Enemy	11
Mayumi Ozaki	11
Buzz Sawyer	10
Lioness Asuka	10
Kensuke Sasaki	10
Umaga	9
LA Park	9
Sami Callihan	9
Jerry Lawler	8
Ted DiBiase	8
Barry Windham	8
Genichiro Tenryu	8
The Gangstas	8
Rhyno	8
JBL	8
The Briscoes	8
Ryuji Yamakawa	7
Brodie Lee/Luke Harper	7
WALTER	7
Dusty Rhodes	6
Steve Williams	6
Wing Kanemura	6
Rob Van Dam	6
Jay Briscoe	6
Rush	6
The Head Hunters	5
New Jack	5
Jun Kasai	5
Perro Aguayo Jr.	5
Michael Elgin	5
Eddie Gilbert	4
Ric Flair	4
Bull Nakano	4
The Moondogs	4
Don Frye	4
John Cena	4
Awesome Kong	3
Jimmy Jacobs	3
Big Show	3
Daisuke Sekimoto	3
Tommy End/Aleister Black	3
Braun Strowman	3
Sgt. Slaughter	2
Paul Orndorff	2
Balls Mahoney	2
The Dudley Boyz	2
Edge	2
Mark Henry	2
Roman Reigns	2
Hirooki Goto	2
Shuji Ishikawa	2
Shingo Takagi	2
Shoji Nakamaki	1
Mad Man Pondo	1
Bob Sapp	1
El Satanico	1
Toshiaki Kawada	1
Kenta Kobashi	1
William Regal	1
Eddie Kingston	1
Randy Orton	1
Drew Galloway/McIntyre	1

Thoughts

-- Foley's hip and brain (and everything else, really) died for the No. 1 spot. I hope you're all grateful.

-- Brody is still near the top of the list after all these years. That's pretty drat impressive.

-- Steen has always been great, but even I'm surprised at how high he finished here. His WWE run has gone as well as could've been hoped for with his, er, proportions.

-- If you started watching New Japan in the past 3-4 years, you probably don't have a high opinion of Makabe today (raises hand). But his prime work is well worth checking out.

-- This list all but confirms that Terry Gordy was easily the best worker in the Fabulous Freebirds.

-- Hey, Undertaker finally gets some voter love. That 2008 feud with Edge is probably his best run of the decade.

-- I don't care how high he placed, TNA stans will never convince me that Abyss was good.

-- My heart grew three sizes when I saw Aja Kong show up on multiple ballots. The women did pretty well here, with Kong, Mayumi Ozaki, Lioness Asuka, Bull Nakano, and Awesome Kong all showing up.

-- Let the record show that I'm on my sixth category and this is the first time Roman Reigns has appeared.

Up next: Best Flying Wrestler
FLIPS!!!

# ? Apr 25, 2018 07:49

KungFu Grip: Jun 18, 2008

i'm trying to figure out how benoit fits in the best brawler/striker

# ? Apr 25, 2018 08:53

MassRafTer: May 26, 2001; BAEST MODE!!!

KungFu Grip posted:

i'm trying to figure out how benoit fits in the best brawler/striker

Before he became a famed murderer/bra wearer his most notable quality were his strikes. His chops were basically the standard of the late 90s and 2000s. The matches that broke him out as a star (to the fans) in WCW were the brawls with Kevin Sullivan, and shortly after that feud ended he was feuding with Raven. Those produced two really great brawls. He was a guy who could do it all, but his chops were legendary at the time.

# ? Apr 25, 2018 13:08

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

KungFu Grip posted:

i'm trying to figure out how benoit fits in the best brawler/striker

His brawling was more him chopping the poo poo out of you, but considering the intensity he brought I'd definitely say the praise as a brawler is warranted. I have memories of him and Finlay just clobbering each other in 06 or 07 and it being great.

Finlay is also a great brawler. And I've always had an intense fondness for Necro.

# ? Apr 25, 2018 18:14

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

BEST FLYING WRESTLER

It kinda feels like "flippy guy" is a derogatory term these days, or at least paints a certain picture -- guy who does tons of cool moves, never sells, has no charisma, that sort of thing. It's a bad stereotype for a lot of reasons (and gets super-racial-coded when talking about Mexican or Japanese wrestlers), but here's a dirty secret -- some of the best in-ring storytellers in the business are the high flyers. They're naturally the ones with the most to prove, and as you can see from the top of this list, the best of the best are absolute masters at connecting with crowds.

Of course, there's also a lot of indie geeks here who had a hot few years and then disappeared, but that's beside the point. Don't sleep on the flippy guys -- they're the secret weapon needed for a healthy and thriving promotion.

:siren:

COMPLETE YEAR-BY-YEAR RESULTS https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GG5bDm-e8TIRat7xLsc5sf9GrX-v7YQE7fcAKoOWtOM/edit?usp=sharing

code:

Rey Mysterio	117
Kota Ibushi	86
Ricochet	75
Jushin Thunder Liger	62
Dragon Kid	61
Pac/Neville	59
AJ Styles	58
Mistico	51
Matt Sydal/Evan Bourne	51
Ricky Marvin	47
The Great Sasuke	44
Jack Evans	42
Juventud Guerrera	39
Bobby Eaton	36
Mitsuharu Misawa	34
Tiger Mask	32
Sabu	32
Jeff Hardy	32
Ultimo Dragon	31
Will Ospreay	28
Dynamite Kid	26
Owen Hart	26
Manami Toyota	25
Hayabusa	25
Rob Van Dam	24
Naomichi Marufuji	24
Mascara Dorada/Gran Metalik	23
El Generico/Sami Zayn	20
Prince Devitt/Finn Balor	19
Jimmy Snuka	18
CIMA	18
Fenix	18
Taka Michinoku	17
Volador Jr.	17
KENTA	16
Psicosis	15
Chavo Guerrero Sr.	14
Keiji Mutoh	14
Brian Pillman	14
La Sombra/Andrade Almas	14
Shinjiro Otani	13
Super Crazy	13
Amazing Red	13
Paul London	12
Flamita	11
Dos Caras	10
The Cobra	10
AR Fox	10
Hiromu Takahashi	10
Billy Kidman	9
ACH	9
Dragon Lee	9
Naoki Sano	8
2 Cold Scorpio	8
Teddy Hart	8
Chris Benoit	6
Jody Fleisch	6
Sonjay Dutt	6
Kalisto/Samuray del Sol	6
Eddie Guerrero	5
Blitzkrieg	5
Masato Yoshino	5
Aero Star	5
Soberano Jr.	5
Mil Mascaras	4
Super Tiger	4
Negro Casas	4
Atlantis	4
Kid Kash	4
Momoe Nakanishi	4
Angelico	4
KUSHIDA	4
Black Tiger	3
Christopher Daniels	3
Matt Cross	3
Titan	3
Bob Orton	2
Steve Wright	2
El Gran Hamada	2
Hikari Fukuoka	2
Chris Sabin	2
Taiji Ishimori	2
Darby Allin	2
X-Pac	1
Mr. Aguila	1
Tiger Mask IV	1
Petey Williams	1
Kenny Omega	1
Rey Cometa	1

Thoughts

-- As expected, Rey runs the table. It's crazy to think about his super longevity in the business -- not only did he start out at such a young age, he was already so good and kept getting better. Dude is still going 25 years later and can still have great matches (well, as long as he works a light schedule to save his knees). Arguably the best cruiserweight wrestler of all time.

-- I say "arguably" because Liger was loving mind-blowing back in his day, and is also still having good matches in 2018. A true living legend in every sense.

-- Speaking of longevity, Ricochet is already third place and doesn't turn 30 years old until October :stare:

Dude has a Hall of Fame resume even if he spends the rest of his career farting around on 205 Live.

-- Matt Sydal's had a really strange career arc, from his hot indie run to WWE purgatory to getting fired from New Japan for not being smart about his weed. The talent is obviously there, but I do wonder how many bridges he has left.

-- Jack Evans is a guy who really sneaks up on you. I didn't discover him until he showed up on Lucha Underground and was like "wow this guy is awesome." Turns out I was super late on that bandwagon :v:

-- I almost totally hosed this up by listing the original Tiger Mask for extra years, before remembering that Misawa started his career under the mask. Thanks for omitting that "II" part, aggregate site.

-- Poor Gran Metalik is so underrated he's even underrated on the best flyer category

Up Next: Most Overrated
I'm sure this won't be controversial at all!

Benne fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Apr 26, 2018

# ? Apr 26, 2018 06:11

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Benne posted:

-- I almost totally hosed this up by listing the original Tiger Mask for extra years, before remembering that Misawa started his career under the mask. Thanks for omitting that "II" part, aggregate site.

IIRC while Misawa was the second Tiger Mask, he was just called Tiger Mask.

# ? Apr 26, 2018 13:15

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

This project isn't dead! I swear to you! Things just got hectic over the weekend between a million sports stuff and also personal life poo poo. I'll pick this up again tomorrow.

# ? May 1, 2018 03:43

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

WHO IS MOST OVERRATED BENNE!?! LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!

# ? May 1, 2018 04:32

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Hulkamania gonna run wild brother

# ? May 1, 2018 04:39

Sandman from ECW: Sep 6, 2011

I�m genuinely excited to see who truly is the most overrated. It�s gotta be Hulk, right?

# ? May 1, 2018 12:46

super macho dude: Aug 9, 2014

Ultimate Warrior has got to be a close second

# ? May 1, 2018 21:40

KungFu Grip: Jun 18, 2008

Hard Times is being the most overrated daddeh

# ? May 1, 2018 22:17

D.N. Nation: Feb 1, 2012

We welcome Jinder Mahal's first appearance on these lists! (albeit down at the bottom)

# ? May 1, 2018 22:22

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

I forsee Kevin Nash being able to just be on enough peoples ok side to appear on the list but like way below people he is much worse than. Kane is going to be in the top 3.

# ? May 1, 2018 22:42

Venomous: Nov 7, 2011

Benne posted:

-- If you started watching New Japan in the past 3-4 years, you probably don't have a high opinion of Makabe today (raises hand). But his prime work is well worth checking out.

Makabe is a goddamn legend and I still maintain that his match against Okada at Dominion 2013 is one of my favourite matches ever on the strength of its storytelling.

# ? May 1, 2018 23:06

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

MOST OVERRATED

Or "most overpushed," or "most overbooked," or "guy I'm tired of watching," either description fits here.

:siren:

FULL YEAR-BY-YEAR RESULTS https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kCfHi2E9pb5n8YtuDw43PJSrIT751fIrXs3B_9vTgrg/edit?usp=sharing

code:

Hulk Hogan	135
Triple H	92
Kevin Nash	85
Lex Luger	59
Big Show	59
Sid	58
Kane	56
Dusty Rhodes	54
Ultimate Warrior	54
Randy Orton	53
The Undertaker	47
Jeff Jarrett	39
Roman Reigns	37
Mr. Kennedy/Anderson	29
Batista	28
Ryback	27
Chyna	25
The Great Khali	24
Sting	23
The Miz	22
Pedro Morales	20
Bob Backlund	18
Vladimir Kozlov	17
Sheamus	17
Shane McMahon	16
Baron Corbin	16
JBL	15
John Cena	15
Braun Strowman	15
Junkyard Dog	14
Bray Wyatt	14
Cody Rhodes	14
Mr. Wrestling II	12
Tommy Rich	12
Dino Bravo	12
Van Hammer	12
Jim Duggan	12
Viscera	12
Shawn Michaels	12
Rob Van Dam	12
Matt Morgan	12
Randy Savage	11
Big John Studd	10
Nikita Koloff	10
Erik Watts	10
Goldberg	10
Scott Norton	10
Crimson	10
Jinder Mahal	10
The Dudley Boyz	9
Mason Ryan	9
Chris Masters	8
Carlito	8
Abyss	8
Garett Bischoff	8
Brutus Beefcake	7
Roddy Piper	7
Tadao Yasuda	7
Tommy Dreamer	7
Sexy Star	7
Paul Orndorff	6
Bret Hart	6
Cibernetico	6
Scott Steiner	6
Bobby Lashley	6
Drew McIntyre	6
Alberto Del Rio	6
Eva Marie	6
Charlotte Flair	6
Brock Lesnar	6
The Renegade	5
Kensuke Sasaki	5
Diamond Dallas Page	5
Billy Gunn	5
Albert/A-Train/Tensai	5
Snitsky	5
CM Punk	5
Michael Elgin	5
Timothy Thatcher	5
Giant Baba	4
Jimmy Snuka	4
Sgt. Slaughter	4
Mike Von Erich	4
Ron Simmons	4
Ludvig Borga	4
Ahmed Johnson	4
Atsushi Onita	4
Test	4
Naoya Ogawa	4
Heidenreich	4
Vince McMahon	4
Tiger Mask IV	4
Sin Cara	4
Magnus	4
Scott Hall	3
Cien Caras	3
Steve McMichael	3
Kazuyuki Fujita	3
Nathan Jones	3
Takeshi Rikio	3
Kurt Angle	3
Jeff Hardy	3
Curtis Axel	3
Yujiro Takahashi	3
Ivan Putski	2
Andre the Giant	2
Hiroshi Wajima	2
Eric Embry	2
Earthquake	2
Giant Gonzalez	2
Yokozuna	2
Masahiro Chono	2
Rayo de Jalisco Jr.	2
Sabu	2
Shane Douglas	2
Mark Jindrak	2
Mark Henry	2
Dean Ambrose	2
Dave Sullivan	1
Manabu Nakanishi	1
Yoshinari Ogawa	1
Mitsuharu Misawa	1
Brodus Clay	1
Seth Rollins	1

Thoughts

--As most of you guessed, the Hulkster tops this list, with perpetual IWC villains Triple H and Nash rounding out the Top 3. Luger also gets a lot of "love" here.

-- We all like the Big Show now, but I haven't forgotten the "please retire" chants from just a few years ago. That was a pretty rough run.

-- This is probably the highest Roman will ever place on a WON list, and boy is he gunning for it once again in 2018.

-- I never got the Ryback love, ironic or not, but at least voters knew what's up. Ryback sucked.

-- Cena finished shockingly low for a guy who spent a solid decade as the poster boy for Everything Smarks Hate About WWE.

-- Remember when Sexy Star was just a mediocre wrestler overpushed by AAA/LU and then decided to become a shoot master out of nowhere? What a weird-rear end run that ended up being.

-- Who the gently caress voted for Earthquake I will cut you :mad:

Up Next: Most Underrated
AKA "Please push some good wrestlers for once"

# ? May 1, 2018 23:11

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Shawn Michaels and Randy Savage more overrated tgan Nikita Koloff. I guess you could say Savage's late WCW run but the hell is Shawn in there?

# ? May 1, 2018 23:18

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

Lid posted:

Shawn Michaels and Randy Savage more overrated tgan Nikita Koloff. I guess you could say Savage's late WCW run but the hell is Shawn in there?

Shawn got votes in 1996 (his terrible babyface run with Jose Lothario) and 2006 (the terrible DX reunion). Both are worthy downballot votes IMO.

# ? May 1, 2018 23:22

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Dunno who the hell rates Yujiro enough for him to be overrated.

# ? May 1, 2018 23:23

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

You can bet that one guy who voted for Misawa did it while making a :smug:

face. What a loving dork :laugh:

# ? May 1, 2018 23:32

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Mitsuharu Misawa 1

# ? May 1, 2018 23:32

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

TBF that Misawa vote was at the very end of his career when he was a broken-down shell of himself, and still putting himself over at a time when NOAH desperately needed fresh stars on top.

But yeah it's still funny in a vacuum.

# ? May 2, 2018 00:23

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Most importantly, we can say objectively that Dusty Rhodes and Ultimate Warrior were equally lovely wrestlers who had no place being on TV, Dusty probably even moreso since Observer voting missed most of his time ruining shows by existing.

# ? May 2, 2018 00:33

syzpid: Aug 9, 2014

Benne posted:

-- Who the gently caress voted for Earthquake I will cut you

Rarity's vote discovered.

# ? May 2, 2018 00:52

Shiki Dan: Oct 27, 2010; If ya can move ya toes ya back's fine

--Hulk and Orndorff got 1st and 3rd in 1986 despite doing record house show business.
Hulk was also #1 in 1985. I can understand hating Hogan, but that's what "Readers Least Favorite Wrestler" was for.
No matter how much you hate Hogan, how you can POSSIBLY justify called him overpushed in 85-86???

--Billy Gunn got points for 98 and 2000 but NOT in 1999 where he actually won KotR and was 2nd from the top at Summerslam against the Rock.
:psyduck:

--Bret Hart got Overrated points for 94 (and WHO exactly else was going to draw in the WWF at that point) and 95 (despite spending the entire year in Midcard Hell).
Notable people who got NO votes for Overrated in 95:
--Sabu
--Shane Douglas
--Jeff loving Jarrett
--ANY member of the Dungeon of Doom
--SID!!!!

Shiki Dan fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 2, 2018

# ? May 2, 2018 05:06

rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Shiki Dan posted:

--Hulk and Orndorff got 1st and 3rd in 1986 despite doing record house show business.
Hulk was also #1 in 1985. I can understand hating Hogan, but that's what "Readers Least Favorite Wrestler" was for.
No matter how much you hate Hogan, how you can POSSIBLY justify called him overpushed in 85-86???

Spoilers Most Overrated is often just used to bitch about top babyfaces.

# ? May 2, 2018 05:34

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

Shiki Dan posted:

--Hulk and Orndorff got 1st and 3rd in 1986 despite doing record house show business.
Hulk was also #1 in 1985. I can understand hating Hogan, but that's what "Readers Least Favorite Wrestler" was for.
No matter how much you hate Hogan, how you can POSSIBLY justify called him overpushed in 85-86???

--Billy Gunn got points for 98 and 2000 but NOT in 1999 where he actually won KotR and was 2nd from the top at Summerslam against the Rock.

--Bret Hart got Overrated points for 94 (and WHO exactly else was going to draw in the WWF at that point) and 95 (despite spending the entire year in Midcard Hell).
Notable people who got NO votes for Overrated in 95:
--Sabu
--Shane Douglas
--Jeff loving Jarrett
--ANY member of the Dungeon of Doom
--SID!!!!

Hardcore TV was voted best weekly TV show, Heyman was Booker of the year, Joey Styles was best announcer, ECW had feud of the year and Sabu was voted reader's favorite wrestler the year before

No one in ECW was getting negative votes in 1995

# ? May 2, 2018 07:46

Smoking Crow: Feb 14, 2012; *laughs at u*

# ? May 2, 2018 07:46

ChrisBTY: Mar 29, 2012; this glorious monument

It's "Overrated" not "Overpushed"
So the sentiment is "Why the hell do people like this bald dude who can only wrestle one match?"

# ? May 2, 2018 12:06

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Ric Flair wrestled one match his career and every time it was great

Sell sells sells cheats sells cheats wins

# ? May 2, 2018 12:24

Sandman from ECW: Sep 6, 2011

I feel like Shane should be higher up these days.

# ? May 2, 2018 13:29

D.N. Nation: Feb 1, 2012

Shiki Dan posted:

--Billy Gunn got points for 98 and 2000 but NOT in 1999 where he actually won KotR and was 2nd from the top at Summerslam against the Rock.

Rock absolutely burying him on the mic took the shine off that a little.

# ? May 2, 2018 15:46

Coaaab: Aug 6, 2006; Wish I was there...

Dang, Kozlov got a shitload of votes for his two years

Lid posted:

Ric Flair wrestled one match his career and every time it was great

Sell sells sells cheats sells cheats wins

I think historically, the iwc has valued selling more than offense

# ? May 2, 2018 15:59

D.N. Nation: Feb 1, 2012

Coaaab posted:

Dang, Kozlov got a shitload of votes for his two years

Being in the Worst Match of the Year '08 didn't help.

# ? May 2, 2018 16:04

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# ? May 5, 2024 16:22

Davros1: Jul 19, 2007; You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

When was the CM Punk one?

# ? May 2, 2018 16:38

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