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Wormskull posted:In march they introduced a mode where you can turn off the abilities. Oh really? That's interesting. Do different chars still have different health and armor values though
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They fine tuned a bunch of character's Air Acceleration. DOOM SLAYER Base Speed 300 to 310 Air Acceleration 0.8 to 0.8790843 Galena Base Speed 300 to 310 Air Acceleration 0.75 to 0.8790843 Cooldown 25 to 30 Keel Air Acceleration 0.6 to 0.9102222 HP/AP Decay Rate 2 to 1 sec
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May 8, 2018 17:08
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In Training posted:Oh really? That's interesting. Do different chars still have different health and armor values though Probably.
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Wormskull posted:In march they introduced a mode where you can turn off the abilities. im sure at least half of the 30 players left will hop on this poo poo
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May 8, 2018 17:09
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In Training posted:Oh really? That's interesting. Do different chars still have different health and armor values though some characters have tiny skinny hitboxes that move super fast but have like max 75hp max 25armor, and others are slow hulks with 150/100
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May 8, 2018 17:10
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im ok with that aspect of it though, its fun having different playstyles like that. but the ults are dumb as gently caress
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May 8, 2018 17:11
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I just wish the ults were all more like Ranger's, philosophy wise.
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May 8, 2018 17:18
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It has a lot of different applications and is the most interesting but everyone else's is basically there's one situation you use it every time and it wins that situation most of the time. Galena's is alright I guess just because it's uh... I dunno. It's almost innocuous. It either heals someone who steps on her totem for 50 or it does 100 damage if a enemy steps on it and you can kill it with like 10 damage and it's bright red.
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May 8, 2018 17:20
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black ops 3 has a similar system, long cooldown on a grenade launcher or cyber bow or some dumbshit for a little while (doing well shortens the cooldown), and it works fine because, sure that guy has a flamethrower but you can just shoot him in the face so yeah the telefrag and proximity mine totem thing are cool, and the heal the skateboard guy gets is too, the iwin buttons are really bad and frustrating
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May 8, 2018 17:23
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And ranger's is this Shub Niggurath orb that you shoot out and when you press the button again you appear where the orb is. If you land inside of someone you telefrag them. You can use it to get away or, my favorite, is like on campgrounds you shoot it towards rail gun as you drop for the armor and then you get the armor and rail gun within half a second of each other. And stuff like that just cuz of the nature of it. Maybe you can do some sick jump with Doomslayer's because of the speed but he already has a double jump and you'd be wasting the punching damage so it's just something you use when you have it in the middle of a fight your losing. Anarki makes you fast too but, it heals you fully so you would never waste it other then when your losing. Same as shieldscaler's charge. And everyone else cuz every other one is just Do a lot of damage or Hide for 5 seconds.
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May 8, 2018 17:24
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If everyone had cool Ranger type ults it'd be a fairly cool game frankly, because they have items you pick up that reduce the cool down as well. But you get those so you can have your I'm Losing So Let Me Just Middle Click That rear end or whatever button it is.
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May 8, 2018 17:25
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Wormskull posted:If everyone had cool Ranger type ults it'd be a fairly cool game frankly, because they have items you pick up that reduce the cool down as well. But you get those so you can have your I'm Losing So Let Me Just Middle Click That rear end or whatever button it is. if only lol. back to overwatch and cs as the only shooters on pc
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May 8, 2018 17:50
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JC Denton: I know your UNATCO killphrase. It's 'Quake Champions is so stupid that Zoot is talking about Marvel Avengers' Gunther Hermann: I'm not a machi-
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Plutonis posted:JC Denton: I know your UNATCO killphrase. It's 'Quake Champions is so stupid that Zoot is talking about Marvel Avengers' Lol
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Wormskull posted:If everyone had cool Ranger type ults it'd be a fairly cool game frankly, because they have items you pick up that reduce the cool down as well. But you get those so you can have your I'm Losing So Let Me Just Middle Click That rear end or whatever button it is. maybe, but id rather play quake in its purest form
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May 9, 2018 03:05
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Well of course but you know what I mean.
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May 9, 2018 03:12
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i still cant believe the official version of quake duels is now playing with a limited character roster as lives
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May 9, 2018 03:24
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one of the best feelings in quake is chaining a quick multi frag conversion on a stacked opponent and todd howard in his glory is trying to make sure no one will ever experience it again thank god
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May 9, 2018 03:26
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Plutonis posted:JC Denton: I know your UNATCO killphrase. It's 'Quake Champions is so stupid that Zoot is talking about Marvel Avengers' lol
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May 9, 2018 03:53
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A new thing I'm starting to realize is that everyone's base health being different and a lot of people having 125 to 150 that doesn't decay and there's still the same number of health bubbles around the map means it's so easy to just get all your HP back, and means getting Megahealth is like Whatever, and on top of that, you only have 3 lives and 5 minutes to play a round so it just makes you play like a huge Biotch. Sad.
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May 13, 2018 13:36
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Doom slayer's base HP is 150HP, 75AP and the max on both is still 200 so the megahealth only gives you a 50HP buffer that decays. So what's the point. The other guy can get his HP back to 125, 150 by the time you've picked it up.
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May 13, 2018 13:37
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Actually max armor might be 100 for all I know since most people don't have more than 75 max non-decaying armor.
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May 13, 2018 13:42
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It makes me so mad that I have to watch this to see Cypher and Cooler play against each other now.
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May 13, 2018 13:59
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Actually I think max armor is +50 from the "natural stack" which is even worse than I thought.
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May 13, 2018 14:07
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same with health. AIDS.
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Even more than that it makes picking the items up less important it's that it means that being a character with a lovely amount of HP in the first place doesn't get any better for controlling the map better despite it. What gives. At the start of a round Anarki can only have 125 max HP and you have to use your cooldown as often as possible to be able to get it to even 150 by the end of it... Come on.
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May 13, 2018 14:23
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i figured at higher levels it would be more beneficial to have a tiny fast character that can whip around the place? or is the difference in speed just not that significant? also players are living aimbots at the top level so maybe it doesnt matter that skateboard guy has better air control or whatever if he gets 1shot
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extremebuff posted:i figured at higher levels it would be more beneficial to have a tiny fast character that can whip around the place? or is the difference in speed just not that significant? No one at the top level seriously picks those characters usually, because of what I said. When I watch weekend tournaments it's always Doom (150) Visor (150 + wallhack) and either Galena (125 + totems) or Ranger (125). I haven't seen someone pick Anarki since a month after the game came out, sometimes a really old player will pick Nyx (100 + invisibility) and Cypher picked Slash (100) but everyone thought it was a joke pick.
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May 13, 2018 15:58
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People don't pick Clutch or the other huge guys because it's too easy for a top level person to kill them with LG but also probably because who cares about having 225 HP when you can have 175 or whatever the natural Stack of heavy characters is.
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May 13, 2018 15:59
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Well when you already have it I mean.
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Letting people pick up non mega health bubbles for over 100 HP is making me want to throw up the more I think of it.
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May 13, 2018 16:07
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Though the newer maps have more sparse HP bubbles in general. I don't know why campgrounds and ztn still have all the same 25 HPs in the same places.
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Wormskull posted:Though the newer maps have more sparse HP bubbles in general. I don't know why campgrounds and ztn still have all the same 25 HPs in the same places. early access win
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weird that bethesda would bastardize this series and seem to have no idea what theyre doing
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Blaming Bethesda solely for this tragedy is like blaming only Hitler for the unthinkable rise of National Socialism. One thing is for certain... All those whom are responsible, likewise need to be brought to account for their crimes.
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Wormskull posted:Blaming Bethesda solely for this tragedy is like blaming only Hitler for the unthinkable rise of National Socialism. One thing is for certain... All those whom are responsible, likewise need to be brought to account for their crimes. esports is to blame, so as a viewer, you are partly responsible
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May 13, 2018 16:28
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Quake was one of the few eSports for a very long time before it became fail, so that's not fair.
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Also it has nothing to do with them creating a, if you ask me, more boring and eSports unfriendly fail version of a game that's still dead.
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May 13, 2018 16:31
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the motivation to make it at all was the hope of making esports money
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Maybe but people make trash all the time without those ambitions and it would of been trash 10 years ago. Plus it's no more popular as a eSport than Quake Live was even at the end of its life, which alright, maybe they didn't expect that but whatever.
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