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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Obligatory mention of the two Alan Moore novels.

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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Madkal posted:

Isn't one more of a bludgeoning weapon than a novel?

Yeah--I've read most of Voice of the Fire and I actually think it's pretty cool. I've been a little gun shy with his other one, since it's so long and it's already pretty difficult for me to tackle huge books.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Is Waid's Archie any good? I grabbed the first trade from Half Price Books based on it having Fiona Staples art.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Endless Mike posted:

Have you considered reading the thing you purchased and forming your own opinion?

Of course, but I buy a dozen trades at a time, often before I've finished reading the last dozen I bought because I'm a consumerist whore and find it difficult to pass up discount books that I might like. Asking the thread is to figure out if I should make it one of those I get to before the next influx of books buries it.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
I did really like new Archie--is Chip's Jughead equivalently good?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

I met him in 2014, and he was the nicest guy, but kind of like what you'd expect -- a man of few words, like an old-timey G-man or a dad from the early '60s.

I was lucky, because I got him to sign my two New Frontier TPBs and that later New Frontier special issue that didn't make it into the TPBs, his Solo issue, his two Spirit TPBs, Batman: Ego and Other Stories (which also included Selina's Big Score), the first Brubaker Catwoman TPB he drew, the X-Force and X-Statix TPBs he drew issues in, and the Before Watchmen: Minutemen miniseries. Aside from the Parker books, which I loved but still don't own copies of, I like to think I got him to sign most of his best works.

Woah, I've never had any desire to get anything signed, but does it really work like that? You just show up with a dozen books and he signs them all one by one? And a bunch of people are doing this, each carting a dozen trades in their backpack?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
I'm realizing I've never been to a comic convention and have no idea how they work. I've gone to the gaming convention Origins at least a dozen times, but there's an implicit playing of board games and RPGs that happens there and even playing demos of forthcoming games is a social and active kind of consumption or advertising.

What's a comic convention like? I'm imagining a bunch of vendors selling back issues, some auctions for rare stuff, writer / artist time slots for signings, panels maybe about industry stuff, lots of people in costumes (maybe even a costume contest/parade), and previews of new comic related media, like a movie trailer.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Does anyone know if you can read Bone's Tall Tales without having read the whole main series?

I lent the first Bone trade to a coworker's son and he loved it, but the only other one I have is Tall Tales and I don't want to accidentally spoil anything for him by giving it to him.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
There was some talk about the JLA/Avengers books a bit earlier--just wanted to report back.

I found #2 and #3 at Half-Price books for $2.98 each, so I picked them up. I tracked down #1 on Amazon for ~$10, and then I just needed #4. Minimum I could see on Amazon was $30, which seemed a lot--on eBay, I found a Buy It Now for $25, and an open auction for a copy signed by Perez. I ended up winning the signed copy for $12 somehow--so all told, it wasn't too bad, but I got lucky with finding half of the issues for basically cover price.

There were bundles on eBay for $60 for all 4--the hardcover or trades I saw were all outrageously more expensive than that.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

hup posted:

I should just get singles, looks like. I was trying to track trades and oof

Yeah, my default is a trade too but in this case it would have been crazy. I'm not sure what bonus stuff is in the trade that wouldn't be in the 4 single issues, but I can't imagine it being worth the vast difference in cost.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Skwirl posted:

I wouldn't worry too much, Disney will probably buy Warner Brothers in the next decade and then the rights issues with a reprint will be a lot easier.

You're probably right but by that logic, I should have waited 15 years for Miracle Man to get reprinted with a "The Original Author" credit or whatever, instead of tracking down the Eclipse trades.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Covok posted:

Not yet, no. But you never know. And with strange aeons even death may die.

Fixed that for you!

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Skwirl posted:

Joe Shuster drew bondage porn, which is especially amazing since he didn't have a lot of range in faces and hairstyles, so it all looks like Lois Lane having kinky sex with Clark Kent.

I guess there's no chance of well-known comic artists' private commissions ever seeing the light of day in a published volume? I think it'd be kind of fascinating--just imagine seeing footless Liefeld porn between the 90s Image heroes.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Mine might have been their Simpsons appearance where they sing for Mr. Burns's birthday. But I suspect I heard I Wanna Be Sedated on alternative radio (between Creed and other horrendous alternative bands) before that.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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The Great Twist

Servoret posted:

I think my first Ramones might have been watching the video for the song they did for the movie Pet Sematary. I believe the chorus goes “I don’t wanna be buried/In a pet sematary”.

"I don't want to live my life again" still strikes me as kind of interesting and deep for the chorus of a Ramones song written for a mediocre Stephen King film.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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The Great Twist

Guy Goodbody posted:

Really? I mean, the story is literally about coming back to life and that being bad. It seems kinda obvious and fitting to me.

I mean, yeah. It's very obvious on a literal level (and no doubt, given the verses about goblins and warlords, a literal level is how it was intended) but the forlorn way it gets sung makes it sound like the singer has reflected on his own life and sadly realizes he would not want to live it again. To me, anyway, the implicit assumption would be if your life is good, you'd want to live it again. So it's tragic that he doesn't want to live it again, and that register isn't what I normally associate with the Ramones.

Speaking of the Ramones, there was a boxed set several years ago that came with a Ramones comic book with a sweet EC inspired cover. Has anyone read it?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Stuff like that always makes me sad because it seems to imply that comics work isn't fulfilling creative work and if they could, most creators would rather work in the more popular, lucrative fields of television and Hollywood.

Hard to blame someone from wanting a bigger audience and more money, but if you love comics for comics' sake, it's a little disheartening.

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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Edge & Christian posted:

This is one of the tensions of the production side of the comics industry and I imagine a source of frustration for a lot of creators.

COMICS FANS: Man, it sucks when creators are treated as interchangable cogs and aren't given a chance to finish their stories, or use mercenary fill-in artists so everything runs on time etc.

ALSO COMIC FANS: What the gently caress why isn't this book coming out every month, or maybe more than once a month? I'm not going to buy or remember a story that doesn't come out every month!!!

I'm not singling anyone individually or collectively out here, the latter has been engrained in people forever by the Big Two, and the former makes perfect sense.

Do comics need to be serialized to be economically viable or is it just a holdover/nostalgia? I know there's complete stories that get published, but usually in the Fantagraphics sphere. I never buy floppies or follow ongoing series generally because I don't like reading a story in 10 minutes of content every month.

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