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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > The Hammer House: Stinger Splash Zone > A thread to talk about the WWE/KSA deal
 
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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
 What did Corey say, specifically?

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Jerusalem posted:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiIkioBjOQF/?utm_source=ig_embed

"A drink to remember that no matter how bad WE think we have it, at least our women have rights and we all have freedom of expression."

He had to know that would get him some heat and he did it anyways. Respect.

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

ChrisBTY posted:

Hassan was a heel who was completely justified.
That is impossible to write for in professional wrestling.
It was the sort of gimmick that would make people face their own prejudices. As much as we'd like to think that would be ok, it's not. Wrestling is not something for people who seek introspection.
You don't want to cheer him because he's throwing shade at you but if you boo then you're victim blaming.
Anybody who feuds with him is going to come off as a complete jingoistic tool (So they threw Duggan and Slaugher out there because the ship had already sailed on those two)
So you either make him more antagonistic or...I'm not even certain what the 'or' is in this scenario.

Except all the times it's been done flawlessly, like most of Mick Foley's heel turns (particularly his ECW one), or Bret turning his back on non-Canadian fans, or Punk turning on The Rock, or Randy Savage turning on Hogan for not being there for him in the Megapowers, or Orndorff turning on Hogan. Or Sid turning on Hogan. Turning on Hogan is acceptable, is what I'm saying.

Now, if you wanted to say "foreign heel whose racial identity in intertwined with why he's a heel", then you're onto something. And this isn't pedantry, because there's a sizable difference between the way people might react to a man angry that the fanbase who watches him is so bloodthirsty, that it wants to see his 3 year old child beaten with a singapore cane, and a guy who says that anybody who dislikes him must feel that way because of his racial makeup. Even if he's correct. Because while I agree with MRT that it was an angle that WWE was ill-equipped to handle and casting an Italian guy as a middle eastern Muslim was wildly inappropriate, I doubt the average fan eyeballed him and said "That ain't no muslim, he's eye-talian!". So it's quite possible that at least some of the fanbase were booing him for racial reasons.

Mick Foley once said that Michael Hayes told him that the best heels were ones whose actions are at least somewhat if not fully justifiable. Hayes wasn't a good wrestler and he's a poop booker, but he's right.

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