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Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

One hour till robot fighting time! :toot:

The Walrus posted:

what does the bottom right one in the image feature?

That's La Machine, the Battlebots creators original robot from like 1996. It's just a placeholder. There have been teases that it's covering a secret entry but it may just be trolling.

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Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

http://www.philo.com not an option?

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Pakled posted:

Great episode! I like that they cut back on the fluff to show 5 battles per episode instead of 4.

Huge was great but the first spinner it faces is gonna destroy those wheels.

They'll probably be ok. The plastic they're made out is incredibly durable and flexible.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

GuavaMoment posted:

During the fight Tombstone had its s7 tool steel bar, but for all the promos they showed Tombstone with an aluminum bar having S7 teeth. A napkin estimate of the cost of the aluminum alone on that bar was $2000. God drat.

He's said before that due to bars breaking, motors burning out, and the frame needing frequent rebuilds that it costs about 1000 dollars per fight to run tombstone.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

The air turbulence caused by the stage lights and that huge spinning bar probably don't help either.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Aw crap, had no idea Battlebots is back wooooooo

Anywhere I can watch the first episode?

Discovery channels website if you are in America and have your cable login. Amazon Video has it too https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1MWXXR

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Interestingly, armor tends to be more effective in the lower weight classes and crushers are less effective. For example I've got a 1 pound crusher that can squeeze with 180 pounds of force. If I was able to scale linearly to the 250 pound class it would be gripping with over 20 tons of force. But as it stands it can mostly just bend thin aluminum or polycarbonate.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

MiddleOne posted:

How does that thing even work.

Its a potato cannon firing a steel slug.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Pakled posted:

lol were Hypershock's batteries not attached to the chassis by anything other than the wires

They generally aren't. A frame rail and the top /bottom cover are holding them in place, sometimes with some foam to prevent them from sliding around in big hits. Tombstone and UltraViolent have had the same thing happen.

Gromit posted:

Looks like there's also "This is Fighting Robots", which is a spin-off or "season 1.5" of KoB for some reason. I've not seen episodes of it anywhere though.

It has full episodes on YouKu, the Chinese equivalent to YouTube.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Year of the saw bot apparently. Nice to see effective weapons that aren't flywheels at least.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Gonna have to upload that fight to pornhub. YouTube doesn't allow nudity.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

The hammers are the only ones controlled by the teams. The rest were computer controlled during ABCs run. Presumably they still are.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

wormil posted:

He had won but kept the rotor at full speed, edging closer, and was grinning at the Yeti guys. I guess only he knows for sure but it looked intentional, and giggling while claiming it was an accident wasn't very convincing.

Theyve done some 'creative' editing in the past to make things look different. They did it with the Vanquish fight earlier, by showing Icewave moving towards the remains of Vanquish and then putting in the Vanquish teams reaction to the initial hit afterwards to suggest they thought he was going to hit them again.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Free Shippings team posted a closeup of the damage they took from Huge.

https://www.facebook.com/freeshippingbot/videos/187711715220442/

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Do sawblade weapons do any meaningful damage? Lots of sparks but they never seem to do anything


When your bot is small enough to fit in the other' bots wedge, you're kinda screwed

You mean besides last season when red devil cut straight into witch doctors battery?

Saws may not have that massive hit line other spinners but they pair very nicely with a well driven control type bot, as sawblaze has been showing. Plus, anything is better than more small vertical disks.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Haha, that jurassic world ad was great

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Chomp didn't land a single hit and spent most of the match on its rear end. There's not a single category in which it beat out Wiyachi other than extreme slowness

Battlebots judging criteria are a bit different than you might expect. They look for damage, control, and aggression but the aggression category only counts for aggression with the primary weapon. Warrior shoved chomp around a lot but only used its flipper a few times. chomp was constantly swinging that hammer. Chomp was also fully functional at the end of the fight whereas warrior was smoking with a broken weapon. So I'm guessing Naomi assumed one of Chomps hammer hits broke the flipper (remember they don't have fancy camera closeups and multiple angles of the fight, they're just sitting box side) and gave it the damage and aggression points, with warrior winning in control.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Grognan posted:

its kinda funny how many bots can't self-right when that is such a glaring weakness. you gotta go all in on your weapon or don't go that far. Has Icewave ever gotten the flip?

Ghost Raptor tipped it over once. And it's exploded before.

https://youtu.be/yOQo-oR0V8g

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Tombstone has a major weakness the vertical disks don't have and that's stability. Every good hit sends it flying so a decent wedge will beat it every time. Its success is largely due to the fact that battlebots frowns upon wedgebots and they don't get selected. The 220 pound version typically gets wrecked in live events where wedges are more common.

Here it is getting bullied hard by a cluster bot, for example:

https://youtu.be/eyYgW_jQsAk

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Too bad nightmare isn't around this season. It might have won a fight since it's pretty much a hard counter to huge.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Old robot wars maybe but the modern series bots are just as dangerous as American machines. Carbide and Apex were both easily on par with Tombstone or End Game. Monsoon also competed as Tauron on robot wars (not that it ever worked right) and we've seen what it can do.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Sawblaze has consistently been chopping its way through the armor of other machines. It doesn't crumple armor or fling parts through the air but to say it does nothing is disingenuous.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

It's cripple fighting time!

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

It wouldn't have helped much. One side of lockjaws drive died almost immediately. Bronco was the only one having interference issues. The team posted that they never found the cause but that it also didn't resurface so maybe it's next fight will be more impressive.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

They reverse when something jams them to prevent the motor from exploding.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

MikeNCR posted:

In theory, we should have been fine as the esc current limit was set to 100A less than the rated continuous current (VictorBB at 200A) and the motor was being run at the recommended specs. (48v long Ampflow)

Arent the 48v Ampflows the same ones witch doctors team had to remove?

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

I think that might have been the best drone kill yet.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

Did they say that this is only halfway through the season? Last year was only 10 episodes and the year before was 6.

Yep. 20 episode season. Two week break until the next episode though. :(

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

And the episode 9 bonus fight, for those without science channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIko0ccmgQM

:drat: thats some power in that cannon.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

That gigabyte fight looked savage.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

MiddleOne posted:

Lockjaw's current design is derivative in a bad way and that's been the problem plaguing it ever since the re-design. It's just Endgame but worse in almost every way.

Its Witch Doctors paint job on last seasons Hypershock. It's better than either of them so far but it's not a visually interesting robot.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

If it pleases the court:

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlebots/comments/94f67t/comment/e3m2mi6

Big table of win, loss, and strength of schedule/victory. Things of interest: the only robots to have less than two fights at this time are Vanquish (rip), tantrum, and Warhead. Of the undefeated robots, Sawblaze has had the lowest SOS and despite being 3 and 0 has the third lowest SOS in the entire tournament. Lowest SOS is Double Dutch. The highest is Reality, followed closely by Blacksmith.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

lol goddamn the robot wars American edit awful.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

All verticals have the same issue of fighting gyroscopic precession. Most drivers keep the weapon at a speed below the point that it affects their ability to turn and then spin up when going in for a hit. Some dont bother. Nightmare for example takes a while to spin that big honkin disk up so it just goes full tilt and pivots on the one wheel that stays on the ground. Horizontals are affected too but because moving up/down is less common it doesnt affect them as much. You can see it in action when Tombstone hits something and goes bouncing into the air, it'll wobble back and forth.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

BurntCornMuffin posted:

Especially Overhaul. I mean, I know Brutus split off that team because of "differences of opinion" with Charles, but wasn't there a second breakaway team, too? He seems a bit insufferable.

I feel like Zoey really wants that auto targeting system to work, and being a software guy I can't help but feel bad for her, even despite the obvious design flaws.

Sawblaze is the other former overhaul teammate. efb

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Blacksmith - Minotaur rematch!


...OK? Who liked this match the first time?

6.3 million people, apparently.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

PostNouveau posted:

I'd love to know at what point in the design process they decided that was the best way to go. I'm sure they had their reasons, but ...

The tread pods have a lot of space inside them. Might as well use it. Plus not having to route power cables from the center pod probably made designing and assembling it easier.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Duck could be a doorstop with wheels bolted to it, as long as its fights are fun to watch (which they have been) I don't really care. Tombstone is already showing why they might lose. That chassis is getting more and more banged up with every fight and I don't believe they brought a spare. The electrics inside can't be doing much better.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Robogames and battlebots filming were also within a few weeks of each other so he may have simply not had time to do both.

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Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

TV stands work just as well.

https://youtu.be/qXCsnlt7Ey8

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