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Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

the mali empire collapsed the economy of the middle east basically by accident because Mansa Musa had too much loving gold which is pretty funny

less funny thing about the mali empire: slavery

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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Gazpacho posted:

*annexes tibet and bans tibetan identity*
*claims all of the ocean 5 miles off everyone else's coast*
*backs dictators in africa*

"it's not imperialism when we do it"

Whoa the US hasn't annexed Tibet yet, save it for Trump season 3

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Mongolian Empire should be way the gently caress higher imo. Like top 3. Highest percentage of the world killed ever, did the Sack of Baghdad that absolutely devastated Islamic culture, held China as racist colonial state for almost a century, and its founder was history's

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

congrats to genghis khan on all the rape

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

an actual dog posted:

congrats to genghis khan on all the rape

Genghis' three hundred million living descendants: Appreciate the congrats

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Whorelord posted:

the mali empire collapsed the economy of the middle east basically by accident because Mansa Musa had too much loving gold which is pretty funny

less funny thing about the mali empire: slavery

wasn't funny when his successor realized, oh gently caress we ran outta gold...

that's really what happened, Mansa Musa basically spent a big deal of the treasury, because he figured it was better to hand out gold to everyone and spread wealth.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

KiteAuraan posted:

wasn't funny when his successor realized, oh gently caress we ran outta gold...

that's really what happened, Mansa Musa basically spent a big deal of the treasury, because he figured it was better to hand out gold to everyone and spread wealth.

- Likes slavery
- Spreads wealth
- Is black

Yep folks, Mansa Musa's a Democrat

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the mongols caused climate change by killing so many people in the middle east which is impressive

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Takanago posted:

okay I'm pretty sure it doesn't compare to anything here on a scale of genocidal hosed up-ness but what do y'all think about the Napoleonic Empire

never really had a chance to get up to too much bullshit, but its conduct in the existing French colonial empire didn't noticeably improve over previous French governments

in particular, re-legalization of slavery (which had been ended by Robespierre) was a poo poo move, and the bloody intervention in the Haitian Revolution (which included a white supremacist commander executing black and mulatto POWs in makeshift gas chambers) suggests that French imperialism wasn't much of an improvement on British imperialism

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Jose posted:

the mongols caused climate change by killing so many people in the middle east which is impressive

it was actually china and other places where wet-field rice cultivation was big. when those things are active, they make a lotta methane. when they killed a ton of china, well, the paddies went fallow and dried up from cutting back on land under cultivation and just plain everyone bein' dead so they couldn't work them (because when you're dead you don't work).

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
not all of these were / are empires :colbert:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
chimor had it coming

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



#1 - whatever made ethnicity the Rock was from in the Scorpion King

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
shout out to the Abbasid Empire

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


1. Rise of Nations
2. Age of Empires 2
3. Age of Empires 3
4. Age of Empires

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Argentine Ants have created communistic super societies that exceed the biomass of most human civilizations

quote:

The International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) has compiled a list of the 100 invasive species that are most harmful to Earth’s biodiversity. This list includes five of the supercolony-forming ants.

“It looks as if the ants defy evolution, and we’re eager to figure out how that’s even possible,” says Jes Søe Pedersen of the Department of Biology at the University of Copenhagen.

“According to the laws of evolution, you only need to help out your relatives. But we’re seeing ant colonies so big that all the ants cannot possibly be related. So why are they helping one another? That’s what we’re trying to figure out,” he says.

quote:

“According to the laws of evolution, you only need to help out your relatives. But we’re seeing ant colonies so big that all the ants cannot possibly be related. So why are they helping one another? That’s what we’re trying to figure out,” he says.

One nest and one queen is the norm
Ants usually live in fairly isolated nests, consisting of a single queen which lays eggs that end up as worker ants. At a certain time of the year the queen lays eggs that turn into new queens and males, which subsequently fly off into the world to build new colonies.

In the colony it makes good sense for the workers to work for the entire colony and not just for themselves. When the queen lays eggs, the same genetic material that constitutes the worker ants is promoted, so it makes evolutionary sense that they spend their lives slaving for the queen.

“We have no trouble with understanding how evolution has created the classic ant colony,” says Pedersen. “The workers work for their sisters – new queens – and their brothers – males. It gets a bit trickier to understand when the workers work for other ants' sisters and brothers, as is done in supercolonies.”

quote:

A supercolony can grow at an incredible speed. From a single point, it can grow up to 30 metres in any direction per year. Within the supercolony, the individual nests can be packed as densely as one per square metre.

“Unless there are geographic obstructions in the way, these supercolonies can just continue to grow, as is exemplified by a colony that stretches 6,000km along the Mediterranean. That’s the largest co-operative unit in the animal kingdom,” says Pedersen.


:ussr:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
ants are the superior life form and will outlive us

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Business Gorillas posted:

#1 - whatever made ethnicity the Rock was from in the Scorpion King

I think he was supposed to be a Libyan, who were real and Egypt's enemy.

Mostly because Egypt had a hate-on for nomadic and smaller farming groups next door to them.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

KiteAuraan posted:

I think he was supposed to be a Libyan, who were real and Egypt's enemy.

Mostly because Egypt had a hate-on for nomadic and smaller farming groups next door to them.
he was one of the last of the akkadians!!!

jeeze louise

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


jBrereton posted:

he was one of the last of the akkadians!!!

jeeze louise

Remake starring Carl of Swindon when?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

ants are the superior life form and will outlive us

tfw no communal gf

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Helsing posted:

Argentine Ants have created communistic super societies that exceed the biomass of most human civilizations




:ussr:

Ants are the coolest animals on earth and this owns.

But lol at the constant mention of how this is just totally impossible given the LAWS OF EVOLUTION

Trabandiumium
Feb 20, 2010

Scorpion was the first recorded pharoah of Egypt

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Darkman Fanpage posted:

ants are the superior life form and will outlive us

Ants are a feminist wet dream

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

an actual dog posted:

congrats to genghis khan on all the rape

Maybe it wasn't rape, maybe it was just due to being a Chad emperor?

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
First anternational

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
the competition for #1 between British Empire and Spanish Empire is tough, holy poo poo

belgium can't compete with the heavy hitters in terms of size or scope but should still get an honorary mention somewhere on the list just for Leopold II's escapades in the congo

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

We're worse off that Napoleon lost.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

There's a universe where napoleon didn't invade Russia and it's probably pretty nice

what

explain

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

FourLeaf posted:

what

explain

more dead royals and emancipated jews, fewer dead irish, maybe a 19th century eu with the rather secular/liberal napoleonic code that was put into practice

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The victory of the reactionary powers in Europe pretty much set the political dialectic back a hundred years. Way more people died in the long run because Napoleon wasn't able to liberalize the whole continent.

hump day bitches!
Apr 3, 2011


Blaming spain from genocide is stealing valor from diseases.We have at most half a genocide.Conquistadores are overrated and encomiendas did all the hard work.

Also there's no loving way the loving neo-assyrians rank that high.This is a travesty.This list lacks the Belgians who organised the whole Congo business, the US is too low , the assyrians too high ( wtf number three you are nuts, over japan with 35 millions Chinese during WWII and incredible performances like Nanking ), Mongols 11º???????, you include the aztecs ( WTF WTF , those guys barely rank in the corpse per corpse ranking with a measly 100K deaths or so, even his human sacrifice numbers are totally inflated ), and leave all the heavy weight European empires in like middle positions, the disrespect to the Ottomans who pulled off a 1.5 Million genocide during a world war, or the URSS who went to town on the Ukrainians is shocking.

And the romans, those dudes were assholes but they simply lack the numbers to make it to that high on the list.Modern empires were more efficient and have larger total stats except for the mongols who were GOAT for 6 centuries.If you can cool the earth after you finished your work, you are in.

You put the nazis 5th, those guys killed almost 24 million people in the east, between death camps, forced labour, violence, famine and disease in 5 to 6 year period.I don't know why but it feels wrong.


This list is poo poo, worse than a UFC ranking.

hump day bitches! has issued a correction as of 09:31 on May 22, 2018

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
Napoleon was good, shame about his failsons

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The victory of the reactionary powers in Europe pretty much set the political dialectic back a hundred years. Way more people died in the long run because Napoleon wasn't able to liberalize the whole continent.

Gotta love how history starts with (a misreading of) World War 2 for most people and Britain gets permanent status as the stoic good guys fighting the good fight when nobody else would.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Mayor Dave posted:

Napoleon was good, shame about his failsons

his failson died young, shame about his failnephews tho

napoleon iii was the trump of his time

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Helsing posted:

Gotta love how history starts with (a misreading of) World War 2 for most people and Britain gets permanent status as the stoic good guys fighting the good fight when nobody else would.

Imagine a world where nobody cared about the British royal wedding because there wasn't one. That's the world where Napoleon won.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Imagine a world where nobody cared about the British royal wedding because there wasn't one. That's the world where Napoleon won.

it would also be a world in which people drive on the right side of the road.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Even if napolean had taken the whole continent of Europe, its unlikely he'd be able to take the uk just because of the channel. Supply chain would be too weak and navies were still simplistic.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

lol at nobody counting white genocide, the greatest crime of all

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Imagine a world where nobody cared about the British royal wedding because there wasn't one. That's the world where Napoleon won.

Yeah, but then we'd have to care about the Bonapartes weddings

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

rudatron posted:

Even if napolean had taken the whole continent of Europe, its unlikely he'd be able to take the uk just because of the channel. Supply chain would be too weak and navies were still simplistic.

the Napoleonic wars literally created the practice of naval gunnery, as opposed to getting as close as possible and letting loose, similar to how napoleon himself was one of the greatest artillery commanders of the time for the same reason

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