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ShriekingMarxist posted:humanity in general is rocketing into the abyss of untold levels of isolation and alienation from our natural casual social bonding due to the horrors of the black mirror devices we all have glued to our hands. because of the already inherently vile and toxic substrates of the patriarchal superstructure, socially awkward doofus dudes grab hold of this phenomenon and internalize it and subsume it into their identity, unable to use tools like "empathy" and "vulnerability" to find camaraderie with other humans (perhaps ones they'd like to have sexual relations with) and the whole thing starts a toxic spiral. the very device they grasped hold of and became snake bit by also serves up a comorbid network of un-people to commiserate with, all of them shrieking around the problem without ever realizing they're living inside of it
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Jonny 290 posted:my ex worked in a nursing home and confirmed that they are fuckin and jerkin and fingerin all god drat day long
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Aug 27, 2018 20:17
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I didnt get a smartphone until like, 2014/5, so that can't be it.
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Aug 27, 2018 20:25
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You geniuses figure out what the problem is yet
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:You geniuses figure out what the problem is yet Gringostar posted:this is hilariously wrong 
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Aug 27, 2018 22:01
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turns out the incel abyss stares back lmao
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get that OUT of my face posted:how does hand sanitizer make you horny? 70% Ethyl alcohol
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:You geniuses figure out what the problem is yet It's socialization. There was never really a mystery. 
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Aug 28, 2018 01:14
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:You geniuses figure out what the problem is yet Incels
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Aug 28, 2018 01:18
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Gringostar posted:this is hilariously wrong All of this is wrong
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ShriekingMarxist posted:humanity in general is rocketing into the abyss of untold levels of isolation and alienation from our natural casual social bonding due to the horrors of the black mirror devices we all have glued to our hands. because of the already inherently vile and toxic substrates of the patriarchal superstructure, socially awkward doofus dudes grab hold of this phenomenon and internalize it and subsume it into their identity, unable to use tools like "empathy" and "vulnerability" to find camaraderie with other humans (perhaps ones they'd like to have sexual relations with) and the whole thing starts a toxic spiral. the very device they grasped hold of and became snake bit by also serves up a comorbid network of un-people to commiserate with, all of them shrieking around the problem without ever realizing they're living inside of it christ
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ShriekingMarxist posted:humanity in general is rocketing into the abyss of untold levels of isolation and alienation from our natural casual social bonding due to the horrors of the black mirror devices we all have glued to our hands. because of the already inherently vile and toxic substrates of the patriarchal superstructure, socially awkward doofus dudes grab hold of this phenomenon and internalize it and subsume it into their identity, unable to use tools like "empathy" and "vulnerability" to find camaraderie with other humans (perhaps ones they'd like to have sexual relations with) and the whole thing starts a toxic spiral. the very device they grasped hold of and became snake bit by also serves up a comorbid network of un-people to commiserate with, all of them shrieking around the problem without ever realizing they're living inside of it
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Aug 28, 2018 07:53
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Relin posted:the people who can use their phone apps to get on demand sex are happier than the incels who get ignored on those services tho so i think you're off the mark you've got a selection bias, incels are by definition The People Who Get Ignored On Those Services, And Are Unhappy so you're basically tautologically saying "unhappy people are less happy than people in general."
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Aug 28, 2018 08:15
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why did incels create another forum when they already had craigslist
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Aug 28, 2018 15:28
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https://twitter.com/MichaelEHayden/status/1034453814311563266
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Aug 28, 2018 16:08
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Another data point for you guys to ruminate on
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Aug 28, 2018 16:09
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that isn’t were I expected that to go.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:12
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Rape has always been about power. Only new thing here is digitally altering his image first before accusing him of being guilty of the greatest crime - being a woman.
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cool future
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Relin posted:the people who can use their phone apps to get on demand sex are happier than the incels who get ignored on those services tho so i think you're off the mark the core of it is the socialization/anxiety/awkwardness, whereas in the before times you'd just eventually sift down into a social strata with people like you and similar interests (AV club, D&D groups, w/e) that still had interaction with mixed company, now there's already an entire digital community with pillars of faith that speaks to your particular alienation and frustrations. it must feel like a soothing balm when people find this group, and then from there it's just maladaptive coping keeping them from addressing real problems.
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Aug 28, 2018 16:37
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Wheeee posted:i am covinced that twitch is breeding a more hosed up, broken, and ultimately harmful community than reddit could ever dream of In light of the events in my city on Sunday at the madden game I'd say this is correct.
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ShriekingMarxist posted:the core of it is the socialization/anxiety/awkwardness, whereas in the before times you'd just eventually sift down into a social strata with people like you and similar interests (AV club, D&D groups, w/e) that still had interaction with mixed company, now there's already an entire digital community with pillars of faith that speaks to your particular alienation and frustrations. it must feel like a soothing balm when people find this group, and then from there it's just maladaptive coping keeping them from addressing real problems.
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Aug 28, 2018 22:00
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Question Friend posted:All of this is wrong Oh look the fish disagrees with your explanation of bicycles
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Relin posted:speaking in more general terms like this, i certainly agree Which means that attempts to attack the communities to try to solve the problem are just taking people's medicine away and telling them they need to get better. At best, it turns out destroying entire communities is hard guys, and at worst you justify their feelings of persecution and chase them into more fortified, more toxic communities.
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Aug 29, 2018 02:35
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Aug 29, 2018 02:36
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It's not medicine though, it's poison they have convinced themselves is medicine.
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ShriekingMarxist posted:the core of it is the socialization/anxiety/awkwardness, whereas in the before times you'd just eventually sift down into a social strata with people like you and similar interests (AV club, D&D groups, w/e) that still had interaction with mixed company, now there's already an entire digital community with pillars of faith that speaks to your particular alienation and frustrations. it must feel like a soothing balm when people find this group, and then from there it's just maladaptive coping keeping them from addressing real problems. >D&D groups >Mixed company
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Aug 29, 2018 05:12
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Kung Food posted:It's not medicine though, it's poison they have convinced themselves is medicine. That's pretty much the dictionary definition of addictive drugs.
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Aug 29, 2018 05:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That's pretty much the dictionary definition of addictive drugs. It's literal rat poison with no medical application whatsoever, there is nothing remotely positive or helpful about incel communities and it's absolutely retarded as gently caress to suggest otherwise.
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Aug 29, 2018 05:51
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Question Friend posted:>D&D groups
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Grape posted:It's literal rat poison with no medical application whatsoever, there is nothing remotely positive or helpful about incel communities and it's absolutely retarded as gently caress to suggest otherwise. Where else can people go to say "I'm ugly and broken and will always be alone" though? If that's a feeling they are desperate to express then no poo poo they're going to choose the only place available where they can be confident they'll be understood instead of mocked. Therapy might be better but it's not like everyone has access to therapy, anonymously talking online is instant and less threatening too.
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Vitamin P posted:Where else can people go to say "I'm ugly and broken and will always be alone" though? If that's a feeling they are desperate to express then no poo poo they're going to choose the only place available where they can be confident they'll be understood instead of mocked. There are shitloads of places online for people to go and talk about their problems and dysfunctions. Like you're loving trolling me with this right? "It's either the incels or nothing!" lol
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Grape posted:There are shitloads of places online for people to go and talk about their problems and dysfunctions. Name one, and give a reason why they'd know of it and trust it.
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man, if any of y'all are actually incels and buying into that poo poo, go to a therapist and find out what's up with your self esteem then try and meet some chicks or something, i'onno. i'm a hideous goblin and i've managed to have my share of hookups and relationships by just being chill/funny the bar is so loving low for dudes because of how god damned gross most are, for seriously, match with someone on tinder, chat them up and like, dig into your brains for some wit and charm, don't be overt, don't innuendo, and let her lead the progression w/r/t pants feelings and possible flirting and sex poo poo. if you're not saying gross poo poo or hollering for nudes after the first hour, you're probably already half way to having a lunch date cultivate a respect and appreciation for women as human beings and not as the things that go around your dick when you've tricked them enough
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Name one, and give a reason why they'd know of it and trust it. Literally google any phrase or whatever related to this and just put forum after it and you'll find countless results lol. Oh, btw, the thing that's making you look like an insane moron here isn't the already crazy assertion that surely nothing in all the world exists for lonely male virgins to turn to. No. What makes you an insane moron is the subtext that seems to suggest you think there is anything positive about the incel community. A community built around constantly repeated phrases like.... "only hope is the rope" and "it's over". Not to even get into the horrific misogyny. This is your idea of a thing that shouldn't be attacked because of the valuable service it apparently provides vulnerable depressed people. A cult that turns vulernable depressed people into sexist Klan members who also constantly kill themselves and encourage eachother to kill themselves. Are you loving kidding me lol?
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Aug 30, 2018 06:23
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I just asked you to name literally one viable alternative to the toxic community more substantial than 'well, be better!'.
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Aug 30, 2018 07:10
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I just asked you to name literally one viable alternative to the toxic community more substantial than 'well, be better!'. Here's a viable alternative: go outside
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This is really bad and I hate it. No, I don't want to do anything about it and I'm mad that you even suggested I should think about it, I expect everyone else to solve the problem for me.
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=214 https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/ https://www.reddit.com/r/depression_help/ https://www.reddit.com/r/getting_over_it/
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Go outside, incels There's a very low chance that I'll be waiting there with a sock full of batteries to continue my hideous mission
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