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Tweet #regff6fcc to @FF5ForFutures to get your party assignment. Here's my result: https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/1076218019523805184
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Dec 21, 2018 21:52
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I got Terra, Gau, Mog, and Strago. Well, all right. Guess I'm hunting for all the tedious skills. By the way does anyone know the end date?
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Dec 21, 2018 22:01
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Kheldarn posted:Tweet #regff6fcc to @FF5ForFutures to get your party assignment. that's pretty solid I got Celes, Setzer Mog, and Relm which I'm pretty stoked on all things considered, Mog will be very useful
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Dec 21, 2018 22:03
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YOUR PARTY IS Edgar, Sabin, Celes, Setzer! ENJOY! Even in a game that's hard to make hard, that's an easy mode party
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Dec 21, 2018 22:10
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Locke, Edgar, Cyan, and Setzer. Guess I need to buy a billion echo screens.
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Dec 21, 2018 22:16
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I got Sabin, Cyan, Celes, Relm
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Dec 21, 2018 22:28
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Edgar, Sabin, Gau, Shadow Should be simple enough if I bother actually playing it.
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Dec 21, 2018 23:22
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Terra Cyan Strago Realm. ...no thanks?
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Dec 21, 2018 23:48
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YOUR PARTY IS Locke, Setzer, Mog, Gogo! ENJOY! Quite the rogues gallery.
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Dec 22, 2018 00:04
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Gau, Shadow, Strago, Umaro It's been 15 years since I've played this, but maybe this time I can find out what makes Gau so broken. But since I can't control him, I guess I won't be able to solo with him until the rest come along, though?
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Dec 22, 2018 00:08
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Bruceski posted:Terra Cyan Strago Realm. Ah what the heck. I have just enough steam credit for the game on sale, and that version makes Cyan's bushido useable. Terra's fine even without magic, haven't a clue what to do with Strago and Realm though. Never really looked into how useful Strago's lores are, various FF games that sort of thing is either busted-good or busted-bad.
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Dec 22, 2018 01:06
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Bruceski posted:Ah what the heck. I have just enough steam credit for the game on sale, and that version makes Cyan's bushido useable. Terra's fine even without magic, haven't a clue what to do with Strago and Realm though. Never really looked into how useful Strago's lores are, various FF games that sort of thing is either busted-good or busted-bad. Lores are pretty meh. You might be able to pull some death by math shenanigans but otherwise it's a bunch of a fairly expensive aoe damage spells culminating in one that's basically half an ultima.
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Dec 22, 2018 01:48
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dis astranagant posted:Lores are pretty meh. You might be able to pull some death by math shenanigans but otherwise it's a bunch of a fairly expensive aoe damage spells culminating in one that's basically half an ultima. Yeah, it's kinda balls to get handed the games pure mages and told "don't use magic". I'm currently musing on what could be a fair magic loadout for them, though really if I just did what I usually do in the games and use espers for spells without paying any heed to the stats they give on levelup, nothing's gonna end up really broken anyway. Just on those two and keep Terra to natural magic.
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Dec 22, 2018 02:39
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I'm running natural magic on Celes, no magicite
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Dec 22, 2018 03:03
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Turns out you can't even really pull death by math because discord doesn't work on anything immune to death.
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Dec 22, 2018 03:20
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YOUR PARTY IS Terra, Cyan, Mog, Shadow! ENJOY! Am I boned?
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Dec 22, 2018 03:47
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YOUR PARTY IS Sabin, Cyan, Gau, Shadow! ENJOY! This is fine, actually. Cyan isn't that great but someone has to be the item bot
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Dec 22, 2018 03:48
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Locke, Cyan, Setzer, Shadow ...My new headcanon is that Clyde and Baram were gay so that this can be Team "A bunch of dudes mourning their dead lovers" Wait. Were Setzer and Daryl actually romantically involved? Whatever, they are now.
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Dec 22, 2018 03:54
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Cattail Prophet posted:Locke, Cyan, Setzer, Shadow Team Refrigerator
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Dec 22, 2018 04:20
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Cattail Prophet posted:Locke, Cyan, Setzer, Shadow It was implied but not too heavily. They had a special cliff and all but like most characters in 6, it wasn't explored deeply. They could've just been friends that loved airship racing but it's a jrpg from the mid 90s so I'm leaning towards lovers.
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Dec 22, 2018 04:22
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I always got the impression that he had feelings for her but never acted on it. Hence rearranging his life around very complicated romantic gestures toward women he has a thing for.Bruceski posted:Ah what the heck. I have just enough steam credit for the game on sale, and that version makes Cyan's bushido useable. Just to be clear the Matrix version makes Bushido usable but nothing can make it good. He's still almost always better off just hitting things.
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Dec 22, 2018 05:07
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Nomadic Scholar posted:YOUR PARTY IS Terra, Cyan, Mog, Shadow! ENJOY! Shadow gets to Throw, which does a ton of damage and ignores defenses Mog gets the Moogle Charm which owns. Put on a good shield, the Snow Scarf, and Back Row him and he is actually unkillable and can Jump on things all day with a spear. Terra gets all the good weapons and armor and will hit like a truck when she Morphs Cyan can at least wear anything Terra doesn't and can follow her when you have to split your party and throw items. His level 1 Bushido is at least more damaging than a standard attack
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Dec 22, 2018 05:30
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I'm trying to think of the worst party for this challenge. The best I've got is Setzer, Locke, Relm and Cyan. Any other contenders?
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Dec 22, 2018 05:46
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Relm, Cyan and Umaro are probably the worst characters for the run; everyone else can pretty much tear the game up if they try.
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Dec 22, 2018 05:50
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How do Sketch or Control stack up as abilities? And does she get anything else for commands, since those are based on the FF5 Beastmaster?
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Dec 22, 2018 06:02
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NGDBSS posted:How do Sketch or Control stack up as abilities? And does she get anything else for commands, since those are based on the FF5 Beastmaster? Sketch has the issue that a lot of enemies are strong against their own abilities, and they tend to have weak stats compared to PCs because they're working on completely different scales. Control just gives you more options some of which may be useable.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:09
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I completely forgot this was going to be a thing. I briefly considered skipping this one (FF6 is one of my all-time favorite games, but it's also one that I've played so many times that the charm has just about worn off) but in the end decided to jump on this wagon. Just signed up and got a team of Terra/Celes/Gau/Setzer, I can work with this. That said, now it's a choice of which version to play. I still have my old GBA cart and a GBA player for my GameCube, maybe I could go with that. Don't know if a rom would be too doable given that emuparadise is dead now. And Steam/mobile version gets a big gently caress NO. Decisions!
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Dec 22, 2018 06:13
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Despite some sound issues, the resolution being slightly off and slowdown in combat, I personally feel the GBA version is definitive. If they had done the character sprites in the same style as enemies, I.E. just "more HD" then the Steam version might've taken that mantle.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:31
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ultrafilter posted:I'm trying to think of the worst party for this challenge. The best I've got is Setzer, Locke, Relm and Cyan. Any other contenders? Setzer's got RNG potential as long as you have the Fixed Dice, and those don't rely on any stat of his except his level for determining damage. If you want to abuse bugs for this challenge the Echo Screen Joker Doom thing can carry you also Worst party is probably something like Relm, Umaro, Cyan, Gogo since that means basically zero good commands to give the Mime. Control on Relm could be useful though.
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Dec 22, 2018 11:08
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The Fixed Dice are great once you get them, but you have to go through a lot of game before then.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:10
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Well, you can make a run on Kefkas tower as soon as you have the airship, he can use the regular dice and the Doom Darts before that
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Dec 22, 2018 19:34
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Gau... is good.
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Dec 22, 2018 22:24
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Terra, Cyan, Setzer, Umaro. I already decided I'm doing natural magic so Terra's good. Setzer will be godlike in the end game but meh until then. Umaro is just a berserker, I get one of those in V every year. Cyan is pretty Bluh.
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Dec 23, 2018 04:47
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Incidentally, Cyan does a lot better in the iOS/Steam version - and not just because he can charge Bushido while others act. Kazekiri + Dragon Horn setup is no longer negatively bugged (he still disappears, but gets his turn as per normal), while the positive bug is still there.
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Dec 23, 2018 16:14
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Made it to the WOR and got Setzer online. I just need to pick up a Snow Scarf for Mog and I should be clear though to the end as long as Relm+Mog can kill bosses
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Dec 30, 2018 04:15
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Currently sitting outside Jidoor on my way to Zozo, and so far I'm 3 for 3 on triggering I've already decided that this challenge is worth it, because I've never really engaged with Throw in VI before, and it looks like Shadow can pull off basically all the same poo poo that V's ninjas can, minus the innate dual wield. Haven't had a chance to play around with him too much yet, but scrolls with double earrings sounds pretty spicy, for instance. I also totally blanked that Relm's mother is obviously also dead, so I guess Clyde and Baram don't need to be lovers anymore. Locke/Shadow/Cyan/Setzer is actually proving a surprisingly balanced party so far in terms of availability. I'm not looking forward to early WoR, though. At least the other dorks will get their levels re-averaged so I hopefully won't get completely massacred on the way to Kohlingen, but solo Setzer against Dullahan is going to be, uh, interesting. Might have to loosen my guidelines for sticking to the challenge for that fight.
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Dec 30, 2018 04:52
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I've been using the minimum characters as they are available, so I did Dullahan with C-E-S then collected Mog, then ground CSM to 48 or so then picked up Relm I don't know how you're gonna Solo Kill Dullahan with Setzer outside JokerDeath though
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Dec 30, 2018 06:08
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Done and done, Relm was less useful than I hoped she'd be but she was good at chucking items. I got unlucky and got hit with Ultima after Heartless Angel but got him down on the second try even without Mog. Guess I'll register a new one E: Second party Terra Cyan Celes Setzer mp5 fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Dec 30, 2018 20:42
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I managed to beat my run a while ago. Let me provide some advice for the characters I was using, maybe it will help. Terra I won't lie, using Terra without magic is extremely underwhelming. She has a lot of trouble keeping herself healthy in the early stages, the big stopping point really being the Vargas fight on Mt. Koltz. You want to buy tons of items but only heal outside of battle since you can't spare anything else. She can handle the Lethe River fine because you can't kill off Banon so abusing his heal is kind of required by deisgn. A good option for damage for her early on is the Rune Edge - it uses your MP to do guaranteed critical hits, and since you're not using magic, what else is your MP useful for? Combine with the Gauntlet for maximum hilarity. Later on for safety she can shift to dual-wielding Morning Stars in the back row. Once she gets Morph she can fight more effectively, but at that point she'll have more characters to help out so it shouldn't be too difficult. Great person to hold the Illumina late-game, which ALSO does MP Crits and is I guess back row safe, which I never knew before? Gau You NEED to take the time to fill out Gau's skills. He should have reliable damage for the main elements at his disposal, especially against a fight that almost completely tripped me up - Ifrit and Shiva, who cannot be rushed down with Stray Cat because of their multi-targeting spells hitting a single person and doing twice the damage. Marshal is the best early-game rage for Wind Slash which hits all enemies and trivializes everything in the Vector part of the game except for the boss I just mentioned. Later on you can get more reliable options. Luridan on Mt. Zozo in the World of Ruin is the best single-targeting damage you can get. Behemoth from the Floating Continent gets the always-reliable Meteor. Chickenlips can give Quake which is very strong and with Gaia Gear you can make it a party heal as well. Upgrade from Wind Slash to Aero with the Harpiai monster found outside Kolinghen in the World of Ruin. Gau can also get the Snow Muffler armor which is insanely strong defensively - bet a Behemoth Suit at the Coliseum for it, which you can get infinite of since the Behemoth King boss shows up on the Veldt. Mog Dance is bad. There, I said it. With a party like mine, I did not need half of it running on autopilot all the drat time. If you like control over your characters like me, you'll make Mog into a Dragoon. As the only character besides Edgar that uses spears, he can nearly get the maximum benefit from it, though the Dragon Horn to make it truly ridiculous comes a bit later in the game at the Phoenix Cave. You can also squeeze some arena bets into getting yourself a Pearl/Holy Lance early (or at all, thanks to magic forbidden not allowing any Holy Dragon kills) which will be fairly useful, though you'll want to keep a non-elemental one handy for the late-game bosses that absorb it. One of the final Statues bosses drops an Aura Lance which is better but at that point you've only got the final gauntlet left. Real classy, game. Mog can also use the Snow Muffler, so get one for him too. Otherwise he's pretty vanilla and was designated Item Thrower in the late-game as well. And of course the convenience of the Moogle Charm cannot be understated. Strago As the only one allowed to use magic in the party, Strago benefitted the most from the Gold Hairpin relic to halve MP cost. Otherwise I think he would have been too unwieldy to use regularly. He's not breaking the world over his shoulders, but Pearl/White Wind is really handy as the only way for me to actually get real healing done on the party. Aqua Rake did okay damage for where you get it, and can later be supplanted by Aero and then Grand Train/Delta. He can also get Big/Mighty Guard if you choose to borrow Relm for a short period to sketch a monster, though Shell and Protect don't make an extremely huge difference in this game. Otherwise, Strago's usability is not too high outside of his lores. The rods do okay damage all things considered and can cover the main elements if you find anyone weak to them. Beat the Earth Dragon for the Magus Rod in the World of Ruin quickly to get the most out of him, and as a bonus, Gaia Gear which is buyable at Thamasa World of Balance will make it trivial. Probably the best person on the team to carry the Paladin Shield. For everyone, Earrings makes magical attacks better, which is Strago and Gau's bread and butter. A Hero Ring each can also make their physical attacks better. I kept the Gauntlet on Terra almost the whole game - Offering is really underwheming without something that can ignore normal damage calculations and I didn't really want to grind the levels to get the Atma Weapon there.
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Does Haste have an effect other than 25% evade? My character with Hermes Sandals seems to be charging the same speed as everyone else.
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Dec 31, 2018 00:45
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