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i love the characters in this manga and i really wish the power-ups didn't almost universally come out of nowhere and that the overall story wasn't crumbling apart at a breakneck pace you can really feel the "wrap it up!" crunch mashing into everything
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the story has indicated that Muzan is the First Demon and all other demons were effectively created by him
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Sep 20, 2019 03:58
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Serge Painsbourg posted:Tightly paced plots are fine, but Yaiba's tight to the point where elements are missing. Genya and Sanemi need an arc or two that would flesh out their relationship, as do Zenitsu and Kaigetsu. All we really know about Kaigetsu is that he trained with the same master and thought Zenitsu was weak. How did Zenitsu even gain the confidence to fight, much less defeat, Kaigetsu? Zenitsu should've gotten an arc similar to the one between Tanjiro and Akaza. honestly, this isn't even tight. the things that are happening still take a standard shounen length of time to get around to happening, it's just that things are getting crammed down the pipe and everything's spilling out at once and a lot of stuff's getting buried it's still above black clover to me, which is just moving at a breakneck sprint and barely giving anyone any breathing room. KnY has used its downtime pretty well
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Sep 20, 2019 05:52
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Dont bring up black clover when talking about pacing. and still managed to make it feel like it was careening from event to event, it just had a gigantic stupid pile of events and characters to chew through at least KnY's cast is relatively small even after producing the Pillars and giving a couple of them adjacent characters.
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Sep 20, 2019 09:26
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I think you can look at Genya to really see how much the pacing is staggering around. I feel like that character was supposed to be the next person in The Crew but instead he's just kind of roped along to having these big finale moments. All the stuff that could've more steadily unfurled about him is being shouted at us from someone passing by in a car. Plus the power-ups for everyone are just coming hand over fist without being all that well explained, but I've complained about that one more extensively already. The prettyboy upper moon also I think really got weakened. I feel like that dude should've been a whole arc with the characters having to navigate his hosed up cult instead of his hosed up cult being something we're being directly told about. There's been a lot of telling and a lot less showing.
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Oct 1, 2019 00:24
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https://mangadex.org/chapter/734932/1 not a fan of the final form. he lost some kind of ineffable aristocrat quality i can't put my finger on that made muzan feel distinct to me
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Oct 26, 2019 23:07
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leave the fedora gotouge you coward
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Oct 26, 2019 23:14
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i'm very sad that we're done with muzan the fashion plate i wanted to see him fight in a sharp outfit while keeping his clothes immaculate, alternately clearly not caring about them at all we never got like a *fight* from anyone against pre-powered up muzan where he was pushed at all, right?
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Nov 3, 2019 22:50
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Nov 5, 2019 05:47
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Sindai posted:If you think you feel sad now wait until next chapter when we get the cat's flashback you think you're joking but i am absolutely confident we'll get some kind of 'what has the deus ex catchina been doing since we completely dropped that entire plotline'
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Jan 6, 2020 22:56
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the gang is cool this red blade poo poo is the most arbitrary powerup in a sea of arbitrary powerups
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Jan 20, 2020 21:16
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"I could show anything happening... or it could just happen"
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Jan 26, 2020 19:22
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no time for anyone else. only tanjirou if it ends and the only contribution inosuke made to the climax of the story was 'cut a tentacle off once' i'm going from "KnY got really unfortunately rushed" to "KnY was bad"
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Jan 26, 2020 21:44
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the problem is that there aren't really any established rules for most of what's going on anymore so the victory is kinda going to feel like it happened because it's in the script
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Jan 28, 2020 05:53
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'this is kimetsu no yaiba! we wrote it wrong, as a joke!'
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Jan 28, 2020 22:24
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except it also sucks and everything is car crashing on top of itself and inosuke showed up and did nothing!
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Feb 10, 2020 01:32
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"I can see the cat's parachute"
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Feb 16, 2020 18:53
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tanjiro just hocking swords ruled real 'gently caress it' hours tonight
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Feb 22, 2020 07:38
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RareAcumen posted:I'm still shocked that it came down to Tanjiro and Iguro of all people to hold him off for this long. yeah imagine how cool it'd be if iguro had any screen time at all to establish being like legendarily evasive or something so it wasn't just kind of happening
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Mar 2, 2020 01:18
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if nezuko's role in this final battle is having no powers and just running on-screen to cheer tanjiro on/have a piece eaten/distracting muzan i'm going from putting KnY in the trash to tossing out the entire gotouge
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I'm gonna stand by the opinion that it's the first half of a very compelling story that then goes off a cliff due to a combination of probably being given a pre-emptive 'wrap it up' and some really amateur hour stuff. KnY is in a weird place where I feel like it would've been greatly strengthened by being less shounen (as impossible as that likely was) because I feel like the abrupt powerups Tanjiro keeps getting in addition to the 'red blade' thing never feel earned. They keep coming out of nowhere in a way that absolutely weakens it as a story because big question marks keep popping up. Like, remember when there was supposed to be a thing about the blade colors in general aside from this 'get a red blade by squeezing your sword real hard' thing? At the same time, its undeniable that the popularity got a massive boost because ufotable was able to take all the shounen stuff and make it look amazing, so if that stuff wasn't there, that all wouldn't've happened. What always gets me when I think about KnY kinda going off a cliff is less the actual narrative and more how many character stories went off the cliff with it. I'm not sure what more there was for Tanjiro and to some extent Inosuke, but the only other character I can point to and say had a full, well-written arc is Shinobu. Genya and Kanao in particular were clearly meant to be part of the core gang but the story just never got there and had to rush some stuff forward, along with all the Pillars we didn't spend any time with until we got to this point. It's not bad, but it's very disappointing. And frankly as soon as they got Muzan to the surface, this part of the final fight has kinda sucked aside from the mood of it. It's everyone jumping into a blender over and over again until Tanjiro somehow hallucinated a genetic memory. I can handle some rear end-pulling but almost every single powerup has felt like an rear end-pull. I hope Gotouge's next work isn't shounen. I want to see what they can do without having to shoehorn shounen conventions in.
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Professorjuggalo posted:Muzan is gonna flake off the baby armour and come out as a sephiroth giga bishie for one last fight against tanjiro who’ll somehow recover too, book it zenitsu is an absolute plague on the entire thing. he's like usopp without any of the things that make usopp good and cool except for seeing his lightning stuff animated zenitsu is as bad as inosuke is good
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Mar 24, 2020 01:17
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It was pretty good when muzan was hit by some cars
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Mar 24, 2020 19:40
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doomrider7 posted:Chapter 200 spoilers 
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Dexo posted:calling it Tanjiro's actually dead, Nezuko's the new main character. new main character of what
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Mar 29, 2020 23:06
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...reiwa...?
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Mar 30, 2020 03:12
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grouchio pls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RU50U9H1dI
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Mar 30, 2020 03:41
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inosuke and who?
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Mar 30, 2020 20:25
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is KnY going to be the first shounen to run and end without a tournament arc??? because it's clearly about to end
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Mar 31, 2020 19:58
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It's the same as when Nezuko went demon and it's gonna end the same way but with Nezuko bringing him back. Cyclical narratives are like writing 101. Like with the way the series has gone it has to, because to do otherwise means Nezuko has ultimately had no purpose in the story outside of a literal prop that is occasionally a deus ex machina (though you could argue this is just her being a deus ex machina again) and while I'm unimpressed with a lot of KnY I don't think Gotouge would drop the ball on that here at the end.
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Alder posted:
what next arc
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Apr 7, 2020 20:08
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Manatee Cannon posted:afaik it's not confirmed to be ending or anything. there could be another arc for all we know but doing what exactly unless nezuko fails and the new enemy is evil tanjiro, there's nowhere else to go without basically making a new series or asspulling "and now, america satan!" or something
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Apr 7, 2020 23:30
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yeah but that would be such absolute trash writing it would be egregiously ruinous to nezuko's character with the only reward being stretching out the comic past what it should at this point be capable of just to swerve the cyclical narrative expectation the rewards do not outweigh the costs on that one
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Manatee Cannon posted:what character if the plan was to subvert the expectations of a cyclical narrative and take away the only possible payoff of a character who has basically spent 3/4ths of the series in a box for this moment, it's a pretty bad plan i'll grant that there are ways it can be sold to push out into one last arc that will work out in the end but nezuko would need to be the primary character of that arc being out in front doing dope poo poo and i have no reason to be confident that's what'll happen. if nezuko fails and then evil tanjiro arc is like giyuu/zenitsu/inosuke you can keep it i don't think kimetsu no yaiba is bad but i think it could drop a really critical ball here and i wish i had confidence it wouldn't
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Apr 8, 2020 10:31
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk I think you're making a lot of assumptions here based on nothing. actually most of the complaints about this arc seem to be based on assumptions. like "well the series was cancelled and that's why we don't get character arcs for snake guy or whoever!". but where's the proof of that? Explain to me exactly which of my points are based on baseless assumption as opposed to rational conclusions based on understanding the structures of storytelling Also the alternative to the idea that the series got pushed down a hill is that gotouge's just a lovely writer for hanging emotional payoffs to characters we didnt know and rapidly running through their sad flashbacks to get us to know then
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Apr 8, 2020 19:06
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RatHat posted:Apparently the manga is ending on May 11th, so this will be the penultimate chapter. drat that's crazy, who could've seen it coming
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Apr 24, 2020 10:17
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it's not a matter of de-emphasization, if anything you would need to add more to the story. it's a problem of being rushed and skipping steps and pulling powerups from nothing the red blade sucks so much poo poo. it's literally 'squeeze the sword hard and now you can hurt muzan, but also someone can just smack your sword with their red sword and now your sword's red too'
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Apr 24, 2020 22:35
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there was clearly supposed to be something about the blade colors mattering, but those colors were only ever established as something that was set when the blade was first drawn. the only other thing that was ever established about them mattering is that black blades were supposed to be a bad omen but that never mattered. hell didn't kyojuro have a red blade and it wasn't a big deal? basically: i cannot come around to thinking of it as a hint. it was a dropped thread that gotouge scrambled to pick back up at the very end with no real build because muzan was written to be unreasonably powerful and needing three asspull powerups stacked together to be fought EDIT: like to be clear i still really like a lot of the characters of KnY but the shounen battle manga components really fell apart really fast Patware fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Red Blades hamper Demon Regen. i'm not particularly confused as to what the three asspull powerups do
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doomrider7 posted:Which were...? 'anyone who turned into a demon just didn't want to not turn into a demon hard enough'
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