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Yeah, but her entire family was better off, happier, she appeared “healthier...”, while she was doing that. The point of the movie is to sacrifice until you can’t take it anymore and then go back to pretty much how things were. Don’t see her have any real consequences of drunk driving and almost killing someone.
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Golden Bee posted:The twist in Tully, which changes the theme of the movie from “friendship can change your life” to “your life is better when you’re crazy.” People in my theater audibly sighed. I thought the twist was totally unnecessary and seemed like the script was rewritten around it for third act shock value. I'm trying to think of what would change if we knew from the beginning that Tully was some imagined manifestation of Charlize Theron's younger self and I can't think of anything that would have been less impactful. When a plot twist doesn't alter your understanding of the story or characters in any meaningful way you kind of have to wonder why it's even there. They could have played it 100% straight and it would have been the same drat story minus another overwrought accident scene.
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May 28, 2018 09:39
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Completely disagree about Tully, like, the most obvious thing is - what does it say about Ron Livingston's character that he never noticed any of this? That he could've figured out that his wife was having a huge psychotic break if he literally just knew the name of the 'night nurse'? That he didn't ever notice that his wife was having a huge psychotic break - even when moments like the sex fantasy or Tully watching in the corner directly involve his presence?
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May 28, 2018 10:28
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got any sevens posted:The end of Se7en Is this WTF in the sense of "I don't understand why they did this" or in the sense of "I can't believe they actually did this"?
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May 28, 2018 11:17
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Hat Thoughts posted:Completely disagree about Tully, like, the most obvious thing is - what does it say about Ron Livingston's character that he never noticed any of this? That he could've figured out that his wife was having a huge psychotic break if he literally just knew the name of the 'night nurse'? That he didn't ever notice that his wife was having a huge psychotic break - even when moments like the sex fantasy or Tully watching in the corner directly involve his presence? I mean during the sex thing it's retrospectively obvious that *she* was wearing the uniform- I'm pretty sure the implication is during these scenes that she's *not* acting like a second person's there, but she is overextending and exhausting herself trying, effectively, to be two people at once. What happens at the end is she reconciles herself with who she was- she isn't going to run away and leave her family but she may be a more complete person at the end of it.
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May 28, 2018 17:43
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In a movie full of WTF choices, this sound effect actually made me laugh aloud in the theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRzvdQh8D2Q&t=167s
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May 28, 2018 18:01
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Ahaha. *cronch*
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May 28, 2018 18:06
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Ahaha. *cronch* My ex had to elbow me in the theater because I was laughing so hard. I mean, Hooper did so much stupid poo poo with that movie, but that one effect might be the best / worst.
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May 28, 2018 18:22
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Speaking of sound effects, Rollerball is one of the worst movies of all time. A combination of WTF's here -- the entire scene is filmed in night vision for what I assume are dramatic purposes, then there's.... well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Dfi-b-qns
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May 28, 2018 18:36
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean during the sex thing it's retrospectively obvious that *she* was wearing the uniform- I'm pretty sure the implication is during these scenes that she's *not* acting like a second person's there, but she is overextending and exhausting herself trying, effectively, to be two people at once. What happens at the end is she reconciles herself with who she was- she isn't going to run away and leave her family but she may be a more complete person at the end of it. The movie is still predicated on the husband not waking up for a week+ and Noticing that nobody is downstairs when he goes to the kitchen for a snack, not asking the nurse to put the other kids to bed, and —-Not noticing the baby is in the room!—-, as we see her rock the cradle while in bed. There’s a hint here and there, like the scene where the animated cartoon say “we’re turning into mermaids”, But the reason it’s WTF is because it’s something the character would immediately recognize or say (“Tully? Oh, that’s my old last name”). The twist is held from the audience when it would be extremely obvious to the character, even if it’s a really good movie otherwise. That’s why it’s so WTF. Also there are large stretches in the middle of the movie where there’s no conflict, from the Cupcakes Appearing to the trip into Brooklyn. .
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May 28, 2018 18:48
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Well, if we're talking WTF sound effects, nothing beats the slide whistle during the rotating car jump in The Man With the Golden Gun
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May 28, 2018 19:11
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Every Roger Moore Bond flick is fuckin clownshoes.
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May 28, 2018 19:23
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Golden Bee posted:The movie is still predicated on the husband not waking up for a week+ and Noticing that nobody is downstairs when he goes to the kitchen for a snack, not asking the nurse to put the other kids to bed, and —-Not noticing the baby is in the room!—-, as we see her rock the cradle while in bed. Some people don't get up in the middle of the night.
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May 28, 2018 19:32
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Every Roger Moore Bond flick is fuckin clownshoes. Sometimes literally:
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I just remembered one part that arguably fits (since it's actually very much intentional and effective), the very last scene from Enemy. Obviously some spoilers to follow: The movie's about a man who runs across another man who is his exact doppelgänger, and develops something of an obsession with him and vice versa. Now, apart from this premise, the plot is generally portrayed in a grounded and realistic fashion, like a sort of mystery thriller. The whole thing culminates in them getting into a fight, and one of them killing the other. And then at the very end, during the denouement, this happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBCmltbJ8U Boom, giant loving spider out of nowhere! It actually ties in with further spider-symbolism shown earlier in the movie, but up until then there wasn't much attention drawn to that or any other allegory. It was a really effective (and also initially confusing  ) break from what had until then been a fairly literal film.
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May 28, 2018 21:25
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The final scene in Birdy
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May 28, 2018 23:25
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There's an utterly bizarre scene in Godzilla vs. Hedorah where some dude has a freakout and sees everyone with fish heads.
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NmareBfly posted:Speaking of sound effects, Rollerball is one of the worst movies of all time. A combination of WTF's here -- the entire scene is filmed in night vision for what I assume are dramatic purposes, then there's.... well. The "best" part of Rollerball is Chris Klein's fake rear end stubble that looks like it was airbrushed on.
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Fsmhunk posted:There's an utterly bizarre scene in Godzilla vs. Hedorah where some dude has a freakout and sees everyone with fish heads. Of course the entire movie is kind of like this, so it's hard to single out one scene.
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May 29, 2018 04:04
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Another good one is the talking raptor dream in Jurassic Park 3.
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May 29, 2018 05:21
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The nightvision chase from the 2002 Rollerball remake. Especially the sound cue at :49. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Dfi-b-qns
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E: ^way to read the thread and link the exact same video Enisteni NmareBfly posted:Speaking of sound effects, Rollerball is one of the worst movies of all time. A combination of WTF's here -- the entire scene is filmed in night vision for what I assume are dramatic purposes, then there's.... well. The best part is that they used it twice in a minute, something that wouldn't be bested until Tom Cruise's dual scream in The Mummy trailer.
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May 29, 2018 05:54
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Keith Atherton posted:The final scene in Birdy Wow. Definitely this. I had forgotten all about that. First thing I thought of was Superman 2 and the big cellophane "S" thingy.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Every Roger Moore Bond flick is fuckin clownshoes. Live and Let Die is basically made of WTF. And racism. CIA agents keep getting shanked by black funeral processions in New Orleans that turn into street parties. It's the damnedest thing!
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NmareBfly posted:Speaking of sound effects, Rollerball is one of the worst movies of all time. A combination of WTF's here -- the entire scene is filmed in night vision for what I assume are dramatic purposes, then there's.... well.
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Egbert Souse posted:The last ten or so minutes of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. This my happening and it freaks me out! I saw this film for the first time a month or two ago and the twist at the end had me laughing hysterically. Also, the ending to Kiss Me Deadly. I've seen that film twice already and I still can't quite believe what I saw.
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The one WTF moment that always makes me laugh is the final ten minutes of Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare. For those who haven't seen it, the movie is basically an Evil Dead ripoff but with a rock band, their manager and their romantic interests hanging out in a haunted farm house. They're gradually picked off and impersonated by ghouls with the unique enough setup that nobody really realizes that something's amiss. When people go missing, others figure they went and drove into town or whatever. Nobody panics and everyone has their guard down. In the end, we're down to the lead singer (played by Jon Mikl Thor) and his girlfriend. His girlfriend is killed and a demon takes her form. Thor is chilling out, trying to write music, when his girlfriend appears and tells him that he's doomed. Thor shrugs off her warnings and demon voice like it's no big deal and assures her that their friends are all perfectly fine. Then she transforms into the Devil, who is just this awful, giant puppet. Thor still acts kind of nonplussed about the whole ordeal, much to Satan's chagrin. Then he reveals the truth: none of those killed characters were real. They were really illusions created by Thor, who is in fact the angel Triton. This was all a plan to draw Satan out into the open. Triton then transforms and is wearing only a black cape and a spiked, metal thong. He and the Devil puppet proceed to have the absolute most embarrassing fight you've ever seen with Triton winning. There is absolutely no foreshadowing that any of this is going to happen. It just does and God bless it.
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I saw Thundercrack! a few months ago. The image that's burned into my retina is a shot of George Kuchar getting a handjob from a gorilla in close-up. And yes, to completion. The whole film is like "What if someone remade The Old Dark House as a porno that would make John Waters blush?"
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I think the sudden Dinosaur scene in Terence Malick's Tree of Life, a movie about processing the death of a loved one, qualifies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuCx1Horis4 I think it is supposed to symbolize the arrival of empathy in the evolutionary tree. I don't think it's a coincidence that the predator looks like a Troödon, which is thought to be one of the most intelligent species of dinosaur. It is such a dumb idea though, what does the notion of empathy mean to a predatory animal? Not eating the easy hadrosaur prey at that moment just means it'll need to find those calories from another animal, probably at greater risk to himself.
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The Matrix: Reloaded bowling pin scene takes the cake for me. You know what I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXaRtc1f4I @ the 5:16 mark The second movie in a hard sci-fi, wire-fu, slow-mo explosion fest of a franchise decides to take a 180 from it's mood and plays a cartoon effect for laughs. Something that isn't done in the series before or after- because it's jarring and silly. Why not just add a loving laugh track? Inexplicable. My headcannon for putting that scene together is something like this. *Keanu watches dailies* "Hey guys the grueling fight scene where I did all my own stuntwork in has a loonytoons sound track at the end, is this a joke?" *Wachowski siblings look up from slather lipstick on eachother* "There is no joke. We are reality, Keanu." *Keanu walks off, crestfallen and defeated, to sit on a bench*
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Prisoners, when Huge Jackman and his revenge beard go to the old ladies house to 'help' out with repairs. I'm pretty sure you would need to see how thick his revenge beard is from watching the movie to understand why and not just a clip of that scene.
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Bill Murray getting eaten by a mutant rat in City of Ember
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:The Matrix: Reloaded bowling pin scene takes the cake for me. I’ve said it before, but Reloaded is the Wachowskis letting their comic book logic freak flag fly. See also the upgraded Agents being physically represented as such by being played by literal bodybuilders, as opposed to the meek, nondescript bureaucrat-types of the first film.
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kanonvandekempen posted:It is such a dumb idea though, what does the notion of empathy mean to a predatory animal? Not eating the easy hadrosaur prey at that moment just means it'll need to find those calories from another animal, probably at greater risk to himself.
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Fart City posted:See also the upgraded Agents being physically represented as such by being played by literal bodybuilders, as opposed to the meek, nondescript bureaucrat-types of the first film. Yes, I, too, think of gun-toting, punching-through brick walls G-men as 'meek'.
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May 31, 2018 06:40
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Samovar posted:Yes, I, too, think of gun-toting, punching-through brick walls G-men as 'meek'. That was the point. They just looked like nondescript bureaucrats but turned out to be crazy murder robots. They were a front just like the Matrix itself is.
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Martman posted:I'm confused... it sounds more like you're just attacking the idea of empathy in general. Like why would I give money to a poor person when that means I don't get to have the money? I don't really think you can compare the two. I would say if you give money to a poor person it's probably not going to negatively affect your life in any way, so there's only an almost imperceptible financial downside for yourself to it. Meanwhile if that dinosaur choses to ignore an easy and abundant meal it just means he's going to have to hunt his food somewhere else, probably at greater risk to its own life. Also that hadrosaur was dying anyway.
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That dinosaur just made the choice to let its prey die a slow and probably painful death when it could've put it out of its misery. Obviously it's not the birth of empathy but the first sadist taking joy in someone else's suffering.
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That bit in the disco scene in American Hustle where Amy Adams screams on the toilet then laughs. Is she meant to be passing a kidney stone or something?
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Fart City posted:I’ve said it before, but Reloaded is the Wachowskis letting their comic book logic freak flag fly. Both Reloaded and Revolutions are the Wachowskis getting high off their own farts after philosophy professors fell in love with The Matrix. They're packed full of artificial "philosophy" and a whole bunch of style over about an ounce of substance.
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