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Gazpacho posted:remember the left-pad fiasco? yeah get ready for a lot of that its really cool that buying github actually means buying the package managers for iOS, Go, Ruby, and others.
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Arcsech posted:how many go projects are going to break/gradually have hilariously out-of-date dependencies when the upstream project moves off of github pretty sure go itself has "github.com" hardcoded a loooot of places.
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it could be worse. could be like, oracle
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a witch posted:pretty sure go itself has "github.com" hardcoded a loooot of places. They deserve what they get if that’s true
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google will probably needlessly change from github to something else and make golang even worse. so that's just another benefit of microsoft buying github.
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you can host golang packages on other repos already it isnt explicitly tied to github hth
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Tankakern posted:well, isn't kernel.org the actual home for the code anyway? the github stuff was just a mirror, wasn't it?
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not too concerned about this but namesquatting a gitlab account, just in case
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Breaking News xcode just got built-in gitlab integration everything is terrible, salt the earth and boil the oceans tia
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Poopernickel posted:Breaking News otoh gitlab is pretty ok
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Jun 5, 2018 04:08
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did anyone say $hithub
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:otoh gitlab is pretty ok gitlab is fine when it works which is relatively rare compared to github :/
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Fiedler posted:here's what's going to happen with this: why have they waited so long and covered up so much evidence in the meantime, going so far as to alter their git history?
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Jun 5, 2018 04:53
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i hope one of the big 5 buy pornhub to compete
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PleasureKevin posted:why have they waited so long and covered up so much evidence in the meantime, going so far as to alter their git history? two possibilities: 1) the person he contacted at microsoft is an idiot who reported the problem to the offender himself instead of to legal, or 2) the whole story is bullshit
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seriously, think about this for half a second. the original source code is MIT licensed. it's loving free. to comply legally microsoft just needs to put copyright notices into a couple of files. now imagine that you're a lawyer at microsoft who receives notification that some jerkoff coder made a derivative work without putting the proper copyright notices into the files. would you (a) counsel him to cover this up by carefully obfuscating the entire file history of the repo, or (b) tell him to add the loving copyright notices?
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Jun 5, 2018 06:02
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Fiedler posted:seriously, think about this for half a second. the original source code is MIT licensed. it's loving free. to comply legally microsoft just needs to put copyright notices into a couple of files. the microsoft team containing lawyers is currently feuding with the team containing the coder, so no headway can be made.
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let's all switch to fossil
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screw that, lets switch to SCCS
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Fiedler posted:seriously, think about this for half a second. the original source code is MIT licensed. it's loving free. to comply legally microsoft just needs to put copyright notices into a couple of files. they didn't do this though, that's the problem. i've been on SA hiatus for a while but this is nevertheless some of the worst self-delusion i've seen. your head is so far up your rear end you can't apply your same "people act good and rationally therefore microsoft wouldn't do this" to both parties, nor any further than it takes you to arrive at a comfortable position. Lerna is a well-known and respected tool used by many and the dev's word goes pretty far with me, especially compared to a company that has been caught doing this exact same thing before. the Lerna folks stand to gain: their name at the bottom of a README, some GitHub activity points and their name in a file named LICENSE. microsoft is marketing this as better than the alternatives, so they stand to gain materially by maintaining it's highly differentiated or all-new. the motives are very unequally balanced. as for your mythology that lawyers would tell people to humbly admit wrong-doing and hug-it-out: it would also be sound legal advice to advise that devs recode it enough that's it's no longer a derivative work. and of course admit no wrong doing or speak to anyone about it at all as their statements may incriminate them. which is what they're doing. PleasureKevin fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 5, 2018 |
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also came across this Chinese Github alternative that looks pretty slick. looks to be a much larger amount of content on it than Gitlab, and higher quality than what the trending section of Gitlab shows. you can click english in the bottom right corner, but it's not fully translated, although navigable. https://gitee.com/zTree/zTree_v3 would be a great outcome if Github's exit causes more people to learn chinese 🤗
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Jun 5, 2018 18:59
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I’m the guy arguing it is better to store my source code on a Chinese website than on Microsoft owned GitHub
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yeah, no. some pissant oss library used by no one outside of microsoft is of zero importance to microsoft.
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Jun 5, 2018 19:20
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I’m the guy arguing it is better to store my source code on a Chinese website than on Microsoft owned GitHub it gives me no pleasure
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Yes, double down on the argument that someone has nothing better to do than spending days/weeks changing old commit history to keep this conspiracy under wraps. This looks sane and normal.
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my buddy runs github enterprise for his company, and all they do is give you a blackbox VM appliance that you can't get root on. so you have to beg github to shell in and help you if you need to increase MaxSessions in sshd_config or whatever can't wait for him to get on the line with someone and have them be like "hmm cant help you, RDP connection times out. maybe try rebooting?" Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Someone should have let Microsoft know that git doesn't work on Windows (according to GitLab, anyhow).quote:We do not allow the purchase of any Windows machines. Windows makes it harder to work with git https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/spending-company-money/
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Helianthus Annuus posted:my buddy runs github enterprise for his company, and all they do is give you a blackbox VM appliance that you can't get root on. so you have to beg github to shell in and help you if you need to increase MaxSessions in sshd_config or whatever lollllllllll tbf tho I kind of wish we could do this with our on prem product. just last week a customer reported a ton of exposed vulnerabilities and open ports on their security scanner. we lock down exposed ports pretty hard so this got escalated to R&D, engineer gets in to look at the system and firewalld is dead. asks the customer if they know anything about that and they were just like "yeah we didn't know what that was for so we turned it off"
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lol looks like the lerna guy was just full of poo poo. https://github.com/Microsoft/web-build-tools/issues/673
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but seriously what is the deal with the  microsoft peoplecoworker took yesterday off and migrated his code off github in case Microsoft makes GitHub require Edge and Windows
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Fiedler posted:lol looks like the lerna guy was just full of poo poo. In the future, Github will require all future commits to go through TurnItIn and check the box that they agree to the honor code
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Just lol if u use git on a system that doesn’t have a Posix shell
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cheque_some posted:but seriously what is the deal with the Late 90s brain worms took deep route.
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bill g still secretly owns microsoft and he's comin to git you
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Roosevelt posted:bill g still secretly owns microsoft and he's comin to git you
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how can you not be sceptical to anything that microsoft gets hold of
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the last couple of years with VS Code i guess 
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Tankakern posted:how can you not be sceptical to anything that microsoft gets hold of use their competitors' products
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Fiedler posted:yeah, no. some pissant oss library used by no one outside of microsoft is of zero importance to microsoft. i get it, not everyone has heard of Lerna. yahoo news and garfield.com/comic have so far not covered it, so who can expect you to have known.
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