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hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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ephex posted:

:godwin: still weltmeister :godwin:

nice op, op

I'm friggin excited.

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hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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ephex posted:



deutschland.txt

incredible.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Lmao all the posts immediately after the game starts "wow, germany looks terrible" "man germany looks overwhelmed by the occasion" etc.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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this explains a lot, cursed tweet

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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we barely beat sweden in added time and boateng got red carded, its still plenty cursed.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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dont get me wrong i yelled extremely loudly and so did everyone else in my neighborhood but still what a loving rough game

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Man, I feel bad for Rudy, he broke his dang nose.






Also, same.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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honestly we didn't deserve to advance even if we had won today, the team looked like poo poo all 3 games.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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hopterque posted:

this

we're due for an embarrassing tournament though I think

even more embarrassing than i expected, to be sure

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Pand posted:

tbh I didn't think we would poo poo the bed this hard this early.

Yeah this was way worse than I expected tbh but also fully deserved.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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frankenfreak posted:

Hahaha, Grindel has already said he's prepared to go to 2020 with Löw. :suicide:

lmfao jesus christ

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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General Probe posted:

He knows exactly who is best 11 are, he took them to the Confederations cup after all.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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i mean, not really, i really have no desire to watch that team play any more games at this tournament.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Ozil was only the 2nd worst player on the field both games he was in because Khedira was there and somehow even worse.


I think the theory that the team was basically two separate halves that didn't mesh well holds some weight, ie, essentially the older half that won the world cup (and almost all played like absolute poo poo the entire time) and the young half that were basically half of the confed cup team, who looked at times nervous and shaky but generally seemed a lot more active and motivated than the 2014 boys.

I don't know why anyone would say Werner is bad based on 3 games where by and large he and Reus were the only players up front running around like crazy trying to break down defenses and do something.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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antidote posted:

There's a difference between celebrating and laying on the field crying. I guess we can continue to intentionally misunderstand each other

seriously gently caress off

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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the same guy who is sure that Löw is cool and good and has definitely not lost touch being mad at the koreans for being both exhausted and incredibly happy to have won against the defending champions makes a lot of sense, actually.


e: maybe i read that post wrong nvm but still you suck!

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Torrannor posted:

I haven't rated Özil as a football player for some time, but public persona Özil is amazing. All those idiots who can't deal with his criticism of them can just gently caress off forever.

Him blaming the whole thing on racism because a handful of super trash right wing-ish tabloids were racist about it is SUPER retarded. I don't think its unreasonable for people to be pretty upset about a german player posing with the dictator who routinely insults and threatens and otherwise starts as much poo poo as possible with germany.

Obviously there's a group of people going "haha, good riddance goatfucker" or whatever and him getting all this blame heaped on him for the world cup performance or whatever is retarded, he should never have made the final team in the first place and thats 100% down to Löw et al and their bad decision making. It shouldn't have come to the point where the Erdogan thing became an issue to begin with, because if the team really had been picked on merit alone like they always claim he would have been staying home either way.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Wengy posted:

Yeah, super trash right wing tabloid journos such as Bierhoff and Grindel

I didn't see the grindel thing but iirc Bierhoff just talked about how stupid the Erdogan picture was (he's right) and how Özil sucked rear end (he's also right but wrong to blame Özil for this, its obvious he was going to suck rear end and the coaching staff shouldn't have taken him in the first place!)

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Wengy posted:

Maybe it’s my Arse glasses but I thought Özil wasn’t the worst player by far?

Anyway, not disputing that the picture was insanely stupid, but most (!) of the criticism he got for it was just a smokescreen for right-wing rants against Turks infesting the aryan Kartoffelelf. And then Germany played a friendly against Saudi Arabia (lol) and a World Cup in Russia (lol) where DFB functionaries and Ehrenspielführer Matthäus posed with Putin (lol).

Posing with the leader of the host country of the world cup at the world cup (or really, any leaders of countries involved in the world cup) is extremely, completely different from voluntarily going to visit erdogan when he happens to be in the country you live in to get a picture taken with him, imo, at least.


e: Also I'd say maybe Khedira and Kroos were worse but either way he played like poo poo and looked like poo poo coming into the tournament and never should have been in the final squad.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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I mean, it is a completely different thing for a DFB functionary (essentially) to meet with the leader of the host country of the world cup during the world cup. If the world cup was in turkey and they'd had some shots taken with erdogan it wouldn't be a big deal at all (except to the racists, who are just mad about them in general).

Its almost like context and circumstance make a huge difference, who knew.

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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Also apparently Emre Can got an invite to the same photo-op and smartly went "uhh definitely no thank you" and it wasn't an issue at all politically. this isn't like the Enis Kanter situation at all, because Kanter's family started having issues after he publicly came out in support of the Erdogan's opposition not because he declined an invite or whatever.

Anyway either way the whole situation sucks rear end and its super unfair to blame Özil and Gundogan for much of anything when the fault clearly lies with the coaching staff, and hopefully they stick to poo poo like the confed cup team for upcoming games and tournaments.

hopterque fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jul 23, 2018

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hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

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wrong thread but also lol.

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