Sagebrush posted:

I was privy to an argument about countersteering once where it became apparent after a while that the guy who didn't believe countersteering works was actually pushing down on the bars instead of forwards. Like, as if you could somehow muscle the bike onto its side by pushing down on one grip and pulling up on the other. Now that I've seen it once for real, I'm convinced that there are lots more people out there with that same severe misunderstanding of the dynamics involved -- "I am pushing, I am, nothing's happening!!"