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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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pipes

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Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Why the gently caress do motorcycle riders want to discuss it so much? It's as pedantic as arguing over how you chew and equally as loving stupid.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Sagebrush posted:

Like, you're pushing down on the bar towards the ground, as if you hung a brick off the grip with a rope?

He's not, he just thinks he is. That's what every countersteering argument breaks down into, a bunch of people shouting about what they THINK they're doing, only a few of whom are actually correct. You're probably the most knowledgeable person about physics on here, you know there's not really much room for variation in the mechanics of turning in a two-wheeled vehicle with the traditional fork-and-steerer-tube design. Keith Code's (?) no-lean bike pretty effectively illustrates that lean alone doesn't factor into actual turning that much, so it's mostly countersteering, which only happens in one way.

e:grammar

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jul 18, 2018

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Sagebrush posted:

Do people actually pay that little attention to their own/their vehicle's behavior?

Yes, but I can't really blame anyone for that. Most of us started riding bicycles, thereby countersteering, long before we had a concept of what it is. It's when you never bothered to learn about it yet decide to engage in debates about it because it is a Motorcycle Talking Point that it's just pissing in the wind.

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HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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For content, one of my favorite moto lies:

I'm gonna put a turbo on it.

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