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JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!
I see this pop up in various places and it's hard to address. Due to the way scenes are procedurally chosen, it's not easy to directly measure the two games side by side. (or by counting content elements etc., they do not work exactly the same way internally)

I'd say (and I'm not David, but I did work on the thing from start to finish.):

It's NOT - "We made this normal size game and chopped it up into bite sized DLC chunks."
Its more like - "Hey, we made this game. That worked! Maybe we can make....ooooh, FIVE MORE! YEAAAAH!"

"6A:Ride Like the Wind" is a full game, there's nothing chopped off.
It's not "episodic", but if everything works out, there will be sequels.

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Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

sounds good to me, do a game for all the parts of the world that arent gamefied yet!

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!
I'd love to work on one set in Kralorela, but I'm not sure that's likely.

More info and screens in this interview:
https://www.pockettactics.com/articles/six-ages-ios-preview/

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

goferchan posted:

Oh yeah I saw Shaman worshipper ring members in some of the prerelease screenshots and was like 👀👀. I'm not gonna trust them at all but by god that seems useful

raven is the eurmal equivalent and there are some events with them that are a bit :stare:

shamen own, just don't totally ignore sucking up to the gods too

edit: lol, the first image in that interview is literally one of the events I was talking about

leading with that is definitely a thing

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jun 21, 2018

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I had that happen fairly early on and love that A-Sharp's sense of humour is still there: the shaman performing it was on my ring and their advice for the event was a matter-of-fact "You may wish to avert your eyes as I complete the ritual."

Also, an occurrence today: "We're being raided by the Andaylings. They're raiding us because we forced one of their girls to kill herself." Yeesh, what a bunch of snowflakes.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

A gameplay mechanic tweak which is quite good: you can now see more visible effects on the main screen, i.e. "craft stress" and one of your ring members may say something like "we have craft stress because we agreed to give X clan all the earthware for six years." So you produce less goods.

This was interesting in my first game when I had permanent "morale stress" because I always accepted wandering foreigners into the clan, even though my ancestors did the same, and even though they provided foreign secrets which gave us "craft bonus" and "hunting bonus" etc. So we ended up very prosperous but the clan mood was never higher than "grim."

Conversely, in the game I'm playing now, we have no tradition of accepting foreigners and I've been turning everybody away. So no craft or trade or hunting bonuses, but no outsiders in the clan either, and the clan mood is outright joyous. It seems the spectrum runs from a prosperous cosmopolitan clan where everybody is bitching and moaning about foreigners, or a bunch of xenophobic hicks who are happy to shun outsiders even if they end up impoverishing themselves by doing so. I'll let you draw your own connections to contemporary politics.

ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

Been waiting for this for ages, kinda sucks to hear it's iOS only right now. Do we know anything about android or pc versions?

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

ShootaBoy posted:

Been waiting for this for ages, kinda sucks to hear it's iOS only right now. Do we know anything about android or pc versions?

Yeah sometime next year. I think even with the Steam version coming out the rerelease of KoDP was like wildly successful on iOS specifically, and from an interview I read recently it sounds like they started Six Ages development aiming for a multiplatform release but realized they could get the game out sooner if they just pushed one platform first so iOS it is, for now. On the bright side, if the game's a hit and they make 5 more like they're planning, I imagine that since the engine's already ported future games will probably get a simultaneous release.

edit: also if you have a mac (or can boot into OSX somehow? dunno if that's possible, I know it works the other way around though) you can emulate iOS on your computer

edit edit: also I don't think I've heard about an Android point but yeah PC and Mac native versions are coming 2019

goferchan fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jun 23, 2018

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

JanPospisil posted:

I'd love to work on one set in Kralorela, but I'm not sure that's likely.

More info and screens in this interview:
https://www.pockettactics.com/articles/six-ages-ios-preview/

If the game's set in the storm age that explains why elmal is on your side. Also the sequel's going to be pretty nuts

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!
Crossposting from the KoDP thread:

Robin Laws (Designer and lead writer on SA) talks about Six Ages to Ken Hite:

http://www.kenandrobintalkaboutstuff.com/index.php/episode-298-now-were-just-gygaxing/

Starts around 38th minute, loads of info in that interview!
There are moderate story spoilers. If you don't want to hear them, skip the bit from 48:30 to 50:30.

Also, you can watch the first stream of the game being played. (obviously, with spoilers)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/276460426

(yes, the music is too loud, he turns it off around 48 minutes in, and then the other kind of music is turned off around 1 hour.)

JanPospisil fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jun 23, 2018

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
Thursday :toot:

also there was a structural spoiler in that podcast that i hadn't realized yet despite wiping three clans and getting pretty far so far on my current one

i really want to talk about an event chain i just ran into yesterday :mad: but it's absolutely 100% story spoilers

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

freebooter posted:

A gameplay mechanic tweak which is quite good: you can now see more visible effects on the main screen, i.e. "craft stress" and one of your ring members may say something like "we have craft stress because we agreed to give X clan all the earthware for six years." So you produce less goods.

This was interesting in my first game when I had permanent "morale stress" because I always accepted wandering foreigners into the clan, even though my ancestors did the same, and even though they provided foreign secrets which gave us "craft bonus" and "hunting bonus" etc. So we ended up very prosperous but the clan mood was never higher than "grim."

Conversely, in the game I'm playing now, we have no tradition of accepting foreigners and I've been turning everybody away. So no craft or trade or hunting bonuses, but no outsiders in the clan either, and the clan mood is outright joyous. It seems the spectrum runs from a prosperous cosmopolitan clan where everybody is bitching and moaning about foreigners, or a bunch of xenophobic hicks who are happy to shun outsiders even if they end up impoverishing themselves by doing so. I'll let you draw your own connections to contemporary politics.

my strategy has been to run a cosmopolitan clan and just crank up the feastin' and spendin' engine

but yeah, the massively increased feedback on current temporary modifiers is Super Great

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
Hey I had a kodp question since I think the thread is pretty much dead if that's cool.

In my last game I had a Vinga worshipper that I wanted to put through Elmal Guards the Stead. But she wasn't an option to do it. I didn't think that quest had any restrictions on it. Anyone know what might have been up?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

BurningBeard posted:

Hey I had a kodp question since I think the thread is pretty much dead if that's cool.

In my last game I had a Vinga worshipper that I wanted to put through Elmal Guards the Stead. But she wasn't an option to do it. I didn't think that quest had any restrictions on it. Anyone know what might have been up?

There's nothing mentioned about restrictions on the wiki, either it's wrong and there's a block on women/Orlanth worshippers doing it, or they were exploring or injured.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

GreyjoyBastard posted:

also there was a structural spoiler in that podcast that i hadn't realized yet despite wiping three clans and getting pretty far so far on my current one

Wrap that in spoiler tags and mention what it was? I didn't hear any apart from the tripartite politics thing which is clear from relatively early in the game.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
[ Yeah I checked the wiki too. I'm on iOS. Maybe a change for the port? Definitely not injured or exploring. But non female non Orlanth makes perfect sense in the context of the myth.

unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jun 25, 2018

Doodmons
Jan 17, 2009
So when and where is Six Ages set, if that's not story spoilers? I have my 50th Anniversary copy of the Guide to Glorantha sitting on the shelf next to me and I'm happy to do a bit of a loredump.

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!

Doodmons posted:

So when and where is Six Ages set, if that's not story spoilers? I have my 50th Anniversary copy of the Guide to Glorantha sitting on the shelf next to me and I'm happy to do a bit of a loredump.

Storm Age, around the Oslira and Black Eel rivers.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

freebooter posted:

Wrap that in spoiler tags and mention what it was? I didn't hear any apart from the tripartite politics thing which is clear from relatively early in the game.

what you do in earlier event chains has a major effect on later but different event chains

i probably could have inferred that from Cenala-related stuff, actually, but it's changed how I think about decision-making and, uh, troubleshooting

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

GreyjoyBastard posted:

what you do in earlier event chains has a major effect on later but different event chains

i probably could have inferred that from Cenala-related stuff, actually, but it's changed how I think about decision-making and, uh, troubleshooting


Ah right - I'm on my third game and haven't encountered that thus far but my second clan died of starvation before I really got to anything significant. I would guess that the Cenala thing can have a massive impact after The Big Event, because she pretty much saved my bacon after that. (And yes I am still going to speak in euphemisms behind the spoiler tags you stickybeaks).

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Jesus why isn't this on PC yet

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Ravenfood posted:

Jesus why isn't this on PC yet

Your ancestors were hostile to the Dragons and didn’t buy enough copies of Kodp for PC.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
are there ducks in this or not

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

Doodmons posted:

So when and where is Six Ages set, if that's not story spoilers? I have my 50th Anniversary copy of the Guide to Glorantha sitting on the shelf next to me and I'm happy to do a bit of a loredump.

Please tell us how will we become the hated enemy of the Brolanthi.

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Playing through KoDP on my iPad in preparation for this game. KoDP is what motivated me to buy an iPad in the first place many years ago, but I've never actually finished the game!

If anyone wants to share some spoiler-lite tips on making the most of KoDP, I'd appreciate it. Sometimes I find myself not knowing what to do with my time, how to best organize my ring, or especially how many weaponthanes are "enough" for cattle raids, exploration, or escort duty. For hero quests, am I best served waiting til I've learned secrets? And am I doing it right spending all my favors asking for secrets and then sacrificing for mysteries when I run out?

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

The Bramble posted:

If anyone wants to share some spoiler-lite tips on making the most of KoDP, I'd appreciate it. Sometimes I find myself not knowing what to do with my time, how to best organize my ring, or especially how many weaponthanes are "enough" for cattle raids, exploration, or escort duty.

I usually organise mine based around the seven skills and the best person for each, optimising to have seven different worshippers when possible. (If you're heroquesting you should absolutely have seven different worshippers even if some of them are idiots.) With weaponthanes I'd send maybe a dozen on a cattle raid, for a full-on raid you send everything you've got minus one or two dozen to stay back and watch the cows (but if you have a successful raid it's not biggie if someone else steals some while you're away.)

A good route to wealth is to really get your crop assignment right so you have a consistent surplus of grain to trade for goods and cows.

With regards to your time, it'll change based on your needs, but:
Sea season is for planting crops, making sure you have enough weaponthanes for the upcoming Fire season, exploring, trading and sending diplomatic missions
Fire season is for raiding, or cattle raiding if you're not strong enough to take other clans on
Earth season is for the harvest, also for exploring/trading/diplomacy
Dark season snows you in, so it's for feasting/gifting/building fortifications/recruiting weaponthanes, and most of all for sacrificing and learning secrets
Storm season, just wrap up whatever you think needs doing most. Apart from Fire season it's the only time of the year you can/should raid

quote:

For hero quests, am I best served waiting til I've learned secrets? And am I doing it right spending all my favors asking for secrets and then sacrificing for mysteries when I run out?

Yes. And when you go to Lore you can click to extend the long version of the heroquest, which you should read and remember so you know which actions to take - they're often more mythology-esque than common-sense, i.e. catch the big wheel and shrink it and turn it into soup.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul
Ring: Clan leader should ideally be the person with the highest leadership who also worships your clan deity (this will be Ernalda, Orlanth or Elmal; Vingans count for Orlanth). Also, have every ring member represent a different god. This is usually pretty easy to do, just sort by skills - usually sorting by Animals skill will show you some good Uralda, Ernalda, Barntar, maybe Odayla people. Combat will give you Orlanth, Humakt, and Urox. Etc. I try to balance men and women, can't remember if this actually does anything though.

Weaponthanes: "enough" is as many as you can handle without putting yourself in the poorhouse. I usually shoot for 20 early on and then build up once my economy picks up later.

Heroquests: sacrifice for secrets until you get the ones you need. Do not quest until you know the myths. Sacrificing for secrets is pretty easy and cheap if you are bringing in cows.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Doodmons posted:

So when and where is Six Ages set, if that's not story spoilers? I have my 50th Anniversary copy of the Guide to Glorantha sitting on the shelf next to me and I'm happy to do a bit of a loredump.

Tell us about Nivorah and THE DOME

Uberskooper
Apr 30, 2007
Skoops up goood
I wonder what are the chances that this releases early. Preorders sometimes seem to drop a bit before the actual release.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Doodmons posted:

So when and where is Six Ages set, if that's not story spoilers? I have my 50th Anniversary copy of the Guide to Glorantha sitting on the shelf next to me and I'm happy to do a bit of a loredump.

also it's likely to be story spoilers in a similar sense to knowing about the foundation of Sartar in KODP, but not quite the same way because we're in the Storm Age and history is... a little malleable

I haven't actually gotten a win yet so I don't actually know all the details even if i were allowed to share them just yet :v: So far I'm resisting the temptation to pop open my own copy of the Guide because bumbling my own way to survival is fun.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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andrew smash posted:

Ring: Clan leader should ideally be the person with the highest leadership who also worships your clan deity (this will be Ernalda, Orlanth or Elmal; Vingans count for Orlanth). Also, have every ring member represent a different god. This is usually pretty easy to do, just sort by skills - usually sorting by Animals skill will show you some good Uralda, Ernalda, Barntar, maybe Odayla people. Combat will give you Orlanth, Humakt, and Urox. Etc. I try to balance men and women, can't remember if this actually does anything though.

In KODP not having somewhat balanced gender representation dings your fertility and possibly annoys the underrepresented gender until you've done it for long enough it's a new tradition.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Having kids was bad in KoDP :colbert:

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Its a lot harder to get food in this game, you can't really save it up like you could before. Everyone is whining about crops or whatever bullshit but guys we've got so many trade goods and horses just relax and lets die rich as hell.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
That's something I was wondering about. If you engaged at all with the trade game in KoDP you broke the game. It kinda spoiled subsequent playthroughs for me. Mechanically, does it seem like you can trivialize the challenge in this one?

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

BurningBeard posted:

That's something I was wondering about. If you engaged at all with the trade game in KoDP you broke the game. It kinda spoiled subsequent playthroughs for me. Mechanically, does it seem like you can trivialize the challenge in this one?

Food seems to be a bottleneck for the moment, you can't trade 40 cows for 100 food, you get like "half a season of food" or whatever, I'm only a little way in but it seems there's things to keep you in check like your pastures wearing out and having to learn crop rotation or global cooling making everything bad. Like global events that effect other clans too, not the usual one scene things or bad signs at Sacred Time.

No ducks yet but there's Orlanthi who started showing up and loving poo poo up.

I also got a random event where some of my kids learned how to throw fireballs and after putting out all my burning houses and training them I've got like a 20 year old with Heroic combat

Edit: Also now your clan is made of 7 families so you want to have people from every family if you don't want complaining but then its hard to get the right gods on the ring, maybe one family has like 6 possible ring members who all own and one family has one shitlord.

Pwnstar fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jun 27, 2018

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
I’m playing the game right now, aside from jumping in too deep without figuring out the interface and the music not playing for some reason it’s great, I just lost a noble in a duel with some weirdo hunter and gophers tripped some riders

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
So it's KoDP but with considered mechanics? It was always a buy for me but now I'm loving pumped.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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oh, it prereleased for the proles everybody, including me, who shelled out for a preorder?

and yeah it's a KODP reboot but better and in a different setting where you're not actually Orlanthi, you're Hyalorings - lots of similar deities, but the bossman is Yelm Elmal. There are Orlanthi in the area, though! They're less friendly to you than fellow horse-havers!

fake edit: it's still showing up as preordered but not available yet for me, not that it particularly matters except in terms of talkin' storyline that hasn't been mentioned in an interview

i should do a quick "things you should know before playing" and "things you should know before playing if you don't mind some basic mechanical spoilers" post to release at E-Hour

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!
It's out at different times depending on timezones. So Asia is ahead.

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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JanPospisil posted:

It's out at different times depending on timezones. So Asia is ahead.

:argh:

okay i should work on an early version really quickly

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jun 27, 2018

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