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JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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DalaranJ posted:

In six ages, the game refers to practicing spirit divination as “spinning”, but never elaborates. Are the shamans performing some sort of weaving (of fate), or do they have sacred divination tops, or are they literally spinning like dervishes?

Yes.

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JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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Originally it was the third option, you can even see it in an event illustration. But I like all three. ;) Weaving definitely has its magical aspect among the Hyalorings.

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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Is that by Jacob Hinds by any chance?

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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IIRC there are canonical undead ship rowers in Kralorela.

I posted my own ideas in the Kralorela thread, but I'm not that well versed in Glorantha, so it was mostly some early China historical stuff and "wouldn't it be also great to have some fun/creepy obscure wuxia poo poo yes it would".
I could almost feel the grognards roll their eyes, so I deleted it.

quote:

"The six ages stuff seems pretty good in this regard, at least?"

We hope it's goodish.
Speaking of which, the Steam and GoG version will be released next month! (17th of October)
So that's neat.

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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TheNamedSavior posted:

Do you still have any copies of that stuff or remember what they were, for people not knowledgable about Wuxia?

When people think of wuxia, or "those flying Chinese films", they mostly remember Hero, House of Flying Daggers and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. They're known for being shot beautifully and...the stories being hard to follow? Kind of dull acting?
It's not a great representation of the genre, TBH. Yes, there's a lot of this, especially in the newer TV shows, but a lot of the older movies were incredibly funny and weird. And not just "oh, those Chinese! What will they think of next?", like proper weird and hilarious. Dark and gory too!
Thinking of the northern parts of Kralorela with the Kingdom of Ignorance, there are so many movies that would fit right in there - dark cults battling for power, human sacrifice, demonic possession, creepy undead hauntings...
A list of all my favourites would take too long, so I'l just note down a few:
(I should also clarify that these are not all wuxia, some of them fall more into the kung fu genre...there's overlap, but purists might yell at me.)

1) "Zu Warriors From the Magic Mountain" - has an actual Evil Mountain which our young non-magical soldier hero stumbles into (a great example of a low level PC stupidly going into a high lvl area, and having to be saved by a powerful NPC), with a dark cult called the "Evil Disciples" who welcome their "guests" with a synchronized acrobatic flag dance. Very 80s, a bit hard to follow, but the atmosphere is fantastic. Also quite funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMhgJz7jk2Q
2) "Burning Paradise in Hell" - A Shaolin monk has to escape a sadistic villain's isolated border fortress and hopefully free all the slaves working there. It's a bit like a kung fu Temple of Doom, very gory and dark. The main villain's awesome kung fu involves cutting up people with sheets of paper and flinging paint at them with a brush. The cinematography is very 90s - fast action, dutch angles and blue foggy lighting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyeveq7gDw
3) "Bloody Parrot" - yes, that is the title. It's a Shaw Brothers movie, so expect flimsy colourful sets and goofy wigs. Basically a murder mystery, with some demonic possession. For SB standards this contains genuinely uncomfortable slimy chunky gore and slightly icky nudity. Yeah, I found it interesting mainly for how dark it was, considering its origin/pedigree.
4) Detective Dee movies - speaking of murder mysteries. All three DD movies are good-ish, my personal guilty pleasure. Talking deer! Guys kicking deer in the head! Secret plots! Spontaneous combustion! Statues come to life! Many wonders.
These are all made in the 2000s, so expect nicer quality and more modern film making, but also a lot of cheap-ish yet absolutely grand CG. "Look at all this poo poo we can do with computers!", a bit like the Hobbit movies if they were actually entertaining.
5) the "Battling cults and sects" genre - so many movies fall into this. It's all about secret kung fu techniques, poisons, plots, schemes and betrayals. And all of it is mostly goofy, yet very interesting.
This includes: "Brave Archer" series (goofy SB stuff, funny),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DbcyCVQLI
- "Handsome Siblings" (very crazy hyper 90s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_v8xhZXhs&t=285s
-"King of Beggars" (less known Stephen Chow comedy of "Shaolin Soccer" and "Kung Fu Hustle" fame)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHIGCAfo-Tk
- the "Swordsman" trilogy (very 90s, funny and cool, but also completely changes between sequels - and becomes more of a story of another character, who could be perhaps interpreted as trans?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=admG_fx4Iechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drX0KjzCpD4
-"Kung Fu Master" (aka "The Evil Cult". Where the Evil Cult are inexplicably the good guys. Jet Li when he still bothered to act and tried to be funny, VERY 90s and actiony, super weird in places.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gns-8e3u00A
"The Lady Hermit" (character who appears in other films, but I like this one. She's cool and there are evil cultists to be chopped up. It's from the 70s, so the action is les hyper, but still fun.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M--l2e9bLlE
- the Chu Liuxiang series ("Clans of Intrigue", "Legend of the Bat", "Perils of the Sentimental Swordsman". Then there's more about the same character, but not starring Ti Lung - "Faster Blade Poisonous Darts", "The Sentimental Swordsman", "Return of the Sentimental Swordsman", "Legend of the Liquid Sword" and a few more. I like the Ti Lung trilogy the best. It's late 70s and early 80s Shaw Brothers, so expect colourful dinky sets, deadly mysteries, dastardly traps, cowardly poisons and a dashing hero swordsman who mostly fights with a fan.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7S2CPIrdMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqAbhFzfIFQ
- "The Butterfly Murders" (one of Tsui Hark's first movies, where indeed people are murdered with butterflies)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ6-ucZm00Y
- "Holy Flame of the Martial World" (where loads of people die for...magical plastic paddles? This one's real SB goofy.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke-9n2xcUiY
6) The ghost movies. You can't go wrong with the "Chinese Ghost Story" trilogy, all three are pretty great. Very late 80s-early 90s, charmingly crappy monsters, good acting, funny horror stuff. I genuinely love the first two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIDCU467dCA
There's a whole bunch of supernatural romance rip offs, the only one I'd mention is "Green Snake", which is a lovely interpretation of the White Snake legend.
7) The taoist vs vampire movies. There are SO MANY of these! I've only seen like 30% maybe? My picks would be:
- "Encounters of the Spooky Kind" 1 and 2. Good comedy with Sammo Hung.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf4uuPrmBl4
- "The Dead and the Deadly" - which is basically the same as EotSK.
- "The Miracle Fighters" - don't watch the recent "remake" by Tsui Hark, it has nothing to do with the original. It's super super weird and funny. Taoist magic competitions in Hell! Creepy jar men! I really like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMy4EcSORLM
- "Tsui Hark's Vampire Hunters" - a really good hopping vampire film where the vampires are not played for laughs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk8m2zaHD-o
- he Mr.Vampire series is supposedly good, I haven't watched it yet.

Eh..so much for a short list, right? Sorry!
I could also talk about my obsession with the recent "grave robber families" genre of Chinese cinema and TV, but that's probably for another post. If you want one example to check out, watch "Mojin:The Lost Legend".

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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Interesting. Do you think Six Ages does that too?

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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There was a Kralorela book in progress, that some unspecified people might've flipped through a draft of.
That was a few years ago though, and I've not heard it mentioned since. (though I am in no way tight with Chaosium, and have not been for years now.)

If there was a fan driven project, I'd be happy to participate.

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

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Speaking of Kralorela: https://twitter.com/xujnx/status/1259364698056724481

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JanPospisil
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Very Italian art, I like it.

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