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Continuum. I have some bad news. You might now be my number 2. TBD.
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qbert posted:I knew they were too sentimental to go with the sad ending. Almost made mans cry when Cassie saw the house. One of the best sci-fi shows ever made, period. Ramsey getting a redemption arc was so badly needed.
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Jul 7, 2018 09:21
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Rocksicles posted:Almost made mans cry when Cassie saw the house. I literally yelled YES when he came back. 12 Monkeys did right by Kick Avecedo 
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Jul 7, 2018 09:26
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I literally yelled YES when he came back. 12 Monkeys did right by Kick Avecedo Ride or Die! VII
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Jul 7, 2018 09:36
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Man this show was one hell of a ride. I'm sad to se it go but I'm not going to be sad it's gone.
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Jul 7, 2018 10:03
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Man this show was one hell of a ride. I'm sad to se it go but I'm not going to be sad it's gone. How do you contradict yourself in one sentence, without a comma.
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Jul 7, 2018 10:04
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What a beautiful, well written show that will hold up for a long time.
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Jul 7, 2018 11:55
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Jul 7, 2018 12:21
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I like the idea that Deacon secretly knew what was going to happen to him the entire time.
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Jul 7, 2018 14:25
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But now he hasn't got his Superman style VII
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muscles like this! posted:I like the idea that Deacon secretly knew what was going to happen to him the entire time. On the Talking Monkeys podcast with the creators, they said it was only after he had his nosebleed in 4x07 or 4x08 that time changed and he suddenly knew about what was going to happen to him. Before that was an oblivious Deacon.
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Jul 7, 2018 15:02
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Rocksicles posted:How do you contradict yourself in one sentence, without a comma. It's a paradox. edit: And it should have said that I'm sad to see it go, but glad to see it got an ending. That was an absolute blowout.
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Jul 7, 2018 18:54
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Holy poo poo what an amazing show. I can't believe they were able to end that so well. I started getting that nostalgic sick feeling when Cassie was looking up the house they lived in. No way in hell would I ever be able to live in that house knowing that the person I lived with in it would never exist. There were so many terrible ways they could have gone with the ending. They could have had Cole make his way up to that house, find Cassie there, and then she no longer remembers him because the ripples of time made their way to her and she no longer had those experiences anymore. Instead they had a good ending that doesn't ruin everything.
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Jul 7, 2018 19:02
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Too much Canada in sci-fi. The cove where he proposed in is the same as in the finale of The Expanse and an episode of Killjoys.
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Jul 7, 2018 20:25
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Combat Pretzel posted:Too much Canada in sci-fi. The cove where he proposed in is the same as in the finale of The Expanse and an episode of Killjoys. Just accept that Vancouver is every location in SciFi TV. Everytime O'Neill's (two L's) cabin from SG1 shows up on a show I wonder if there are fish in the pond
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Jul 7, 2018 21:05
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I liked that Deacon, when he sees Ramse and Cole for the first time after having betrayed them, and I think killing his brother in the timeline, totally just forgives them because they appeal to his childlike love for West VII. It was really nice having the nosebleeds make sense because I was trying to sort that out. Basically a lot of the show feels tied up. On a rewatch maybe there's plot holes but at least as it is it feels like it closed up well. This show has some absolutely fantastic character work and as much as a grump and nihilist as I am in my media, I was really really glad there was a happy end.
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That was lovely. I can't believe how excellently they tied up the show. Request thread title change 12 Monkeys: Don't you forget about me because I had the time of my life
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Jul 9, 2018 00:21
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What a loving show, and a perfect ending. Can't believe they managed to tie everything together so well with all the different timelines and interactions. Also, I nominate Jennifer for best character in anything ever.
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Awesome finale, I'm still processing. I'm really thankful this series got a proper ending because it deserved it.
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wormil posted:Awesome finale, I'm still processing. I started season 1 again last night. I'm up to Deacon taking the facility. Yay Deacon!
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Jul 9, 2018 03:07
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I knew as soon as I saw that the program was v 1.1 that things were going to get wild. I love that they upped the budget for the red forest.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:51
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Emerson Cod posted:With James Callis coming back from some point after the end of the series and Terry Matalas talking about a potential season 5 and/or a Jennifer spin-off I have a feeling they've got a continuation in the works. I think that's fine, if so. This series had a great ending. If the people who want to stay with these characters a bit longer, why the hell not? As much as I would love to see the show go on, it was such a perfect and good finale, I'd hate to roll it back. Like I am one of those people who says "sure the Seasons 1-5 Kripke arc of Supernatural was great and would have made a great series ending, but I am glad the show has gone on for another 10 seasons." I'd gladly have done more BSG. But this ending was so happy (...or WAS it?  ) I don't want to lose that.My questions--was the Aethan we saw meeting Jones in 2040 or so meant to be one after he was shot? Implying he lived and fixed his travel vest? Also where did the travel vest come from that Cole had in the church--was it the one the guy was fixing in the future?
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Jul 9, 2018 13:00
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New avatar guy poo poo his pants at the finale
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Finally saw the last episodes. This was one of the best sci-fi shows I have seen and such an amazing ending, I honestly can't remember a show with a better more satisfying ending than this. I'm sad to see it go, but glad it didn't drag out. Will definitely have to do a re-watch of it soon.
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Jul 10, 2018 09:33
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Astroman posted:Also where did the travel vest come from that Cole had in the church--was it the one the guy was fixing in the future? Yes, earlier in the episode it was shown that he was fixing it in the future. Thus Cole finally becoming Future rear end in a top hat.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:54
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I think s02e10 Fatherland might be my fav episode so far. The team are in 1961 with Agent Gale. I'm seeing a lot more detail on the rewatch.
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Jul 11, 2018 07:16
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I liked the ending I’m just a sucker for the movie ending and thought they should have ended it where it began. Pretty much like every season finale was like.
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Jul 16, 2018 06:04
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Am I alone in being confused at the ending? How can Cole still exist without being born?
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fallenturtle posted:Am I alone in being confused at the ending? How can Cole still exist without being born? He was born.
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Jul 20, 2018 06:51
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Rocksicles posted:He was born. But I thought the events that led up to his conception (Hanna and that other girl being chanced and then running through the woods and finding Cole's daddy) were erased?
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fallenturtle posted:But I thought the events that led up to his conception (Hanna and that other girl being chanced and then running through the woods and finding Cole's daddy) were erased? But the splinter crew all had the shots, that means they exist outside of time.
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The final splinter sequence just edited him out of time altogether, total non-existance for the normal timeline. That also erased project splinter which means Hanna wouldn't have been able to go back in time to conceive him. It sidesteps the paradox basically. The only people that retained memories of the prime timeline were those who were pulled forward in time, experienced the events, and then put back. Their injections insulated them from the effects of Cole being scrubbed from the timeline. The final change that Jones did was pop prime Cole back in time to where Jennifer and Cassy were rather than splintering him out of existence. His injections insulated him from the effects of his own timeline erasure so just erasing his timeline wouldn't stop him from existing at that point. He's still a walking paradox, but time is "allowing" it since it owed him for fixing things and eliminating the predestination paradox of his original conception.
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Jul 20, 2018 18:24
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They restored the backup copy of him from the last time the machine did a backup.
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Jul 20, 2018 19:11
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The only thing I didn't like about the series was personifying time, it's a bit too cheesy and convenient.
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wormil posted:The only thing I didn't like about the series was personifying time, it's a bit too cheesy and convenient. I don't disagree about it being cheesy and convenient, but it's I think the first time I'd ever see the concept of "time itself" having a will more than just "Time abhors a paradox" so I kind of like it for the idea that it had preferable states of existence.
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wormil posted:The only thing I didn't like about the series was personifying time, it's a bit too cheesy and convenient. I think that's what made the ending hard for me to swallow, I was trying to view the show through a scientific lens and not a fantasy lens, which I guess was foolish of me because why else would there be a red forest if not for a fantastical element. As a side note, I'm disappointed that we never got to meet who Olivia hired to do the UI design for Titan control panel. (Unless it was Emma, but I figured she was more of a technical engineer and a graphic designer of some sort would have done the UI).
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wormil posted:The only thing I didn't like about the series was personifying time, it's a bit too cheesy and convenient. Olivia was far better as the cat stalking time as her prey than she was at being the Overloard of it. She was never really the Whitness. Ethan always was.
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Jul 21, 2018 22:10
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I didn't mind the personification of time thing because it never really came up that much. It's not like they actually had a person show up as time.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Just accept that Vancouver is every location in SciFi TV. But this is Toronto...
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fallenturtle posted:I think that's what made the ending hard for me to swallow, I was trying to view the show through a scientific lens and not a fantasy lens, which I guess was foolish of me because why else would there be a red forest if not for a fantastical element. Yeah, I listened to some of the podcasts after that had the creator/showrunner, and when somebody tried to get into the mechanics of how that sort of paradox could work, he pretty much just handwaved it and admitted that he and the other writers decided at some point "this is just a show, you should really just relax".
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