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Speaking of stuff that doesn’t seem to fit, is there a genera opinion on the chained ogre? I find it’s placement really odd and it breaks up the Ashina general progression up to Gyoubu that I think would be super clean otherwise.
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May 4, 2024 10:23
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He's fine? It's just another boss, with the various lessons of "danger symbols exist for a reason" and "he's gonna grab you, so don't let him do that" and finally "we just told you he's weak to X, so use X you giant moron". The second Ogre at the bottom of the castle post-invasion was actually delightful, was like toying with my food, and I was disappointed that he didn't respawn like the other downgraded bosses. Every boss has the potential to be a roadblock if you somehow lucked through the previous one.
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May 4, 2024 10:32
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Yeah he teaches danger symbols well but the other generals do that too. I guess I put him and DoH in a similar box because both feel a bit out of place. I agree that the second one is great.
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May 4, 2024 12:21
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Imo they wanted a progression of "handsy giant beast man" type bosses. Ogre>Guardian Ape>Demon of Hatred>Hoarah Loux just doesn't work very well because they are outnumbered hugely by "sword guy"
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May 4, 2024 12:31
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voiceless anal fricative posted:You can and should parry him lots! Just not every attack. Quite a few bosses have very high natural posture regeneration at any level of vitality. Like it's very difficult to posture break Owl if you don't deal at least half their health bar, or Isshin 2. Or Guardian Ape, his posture bar functionally does not exist. So it's not unique to DoH. And alot of the positioning tricks you can use against DoH are also very handy against other bosses. DoH emphasises positioning and blindspotting more than the rest of the roster.
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May 4, 2024 13:51
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is there anywhere to get more Snap Seeds for fighting Lady Butterfly?
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May 4, 2024 14:44
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skasion posted:Imo they wanted a progression of "handsy giant beast man" type bosses. Ogre>Guardian Ape>Demon of Hatred>Hoarah Loux It's Manus>Cleric Beast>Demon of Hatred imo
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May 4, 2024 15:07
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I think Chained Ogre is also meant to be a little bit of a roadblock, since there are a few things in that area that are easy to miss (the Hirata bell lady) or are much easier to notice if you're backtracking (the vendor). I personally found him to be way easier than the area that follows, with the combination of a general and a bunch of guys around him.
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May 4, 2024 16:00
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RealityWarCriminal posted:is there anywhere to get more Snap Seeds for fighting Lady Butterfly? There's 5 in the valley where you sneak past the snake early on.
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May 4, 2024 17:01
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Alternatively, you don't really need snap seeds, just sprint around in circles when the illusions come out and you won't get hit
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May 4, 2024 17:04
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Parallelwoody posted:Yeah but then I can't use malcontent. You can only use Malcontent three times per fight before it stops working, which only uses 12 emblems. RealityWarCriminal posted:is there anywhere to get more Snap Seeds for fighting Lady Butterfly? There's another boss later on that you're better off saving them for. There are only fixed drops until the late game, where you can buy them with no limit (but little use for them at that point).
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May 4, 2024 17:16
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BioThermo posted:There's 5 in the valley where you sneak past the snake early on. I got those and another from an npc, but I used some and still havent killed her. probably need to git gud
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May 4, 2024 17:45
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RealityWarCriminal posted:I got those and another from an npc, but I used some and still havent killed her. probably need to git gud Running laps around the arena is very effective at avoiding the illusion dudes and the projectiles they turn into. It's not fast, but you don't need to use the snap seeds.
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May 4, 2024 19:35
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I like to hassle Butterfly with shurikens when she does her wire fu bullshit, so I just treat the phantoms as a chance to get some emblems back
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May 4, 2024 20:05
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Watching Shogun made me want to pick this up again.
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May 4, 2024 21:00
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I'd actually say that snap seeds are worse than just running around, because you're more likely to get hit while you stand still to activate the seed, and it also only dispells the illusions close to you so if you aren't standing right in the middle you're likely to miss some anyway. Just sprint around, and make sure you hide behind a pillar when they all dissolve into projectiles.
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