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Lacey
Jul 10, 2001

Guess where this lollipop's going?

Rutibex posted:

just eyeball it. you can measure a meal once, then you know what that meal will be roughly every time you make it (so long as you keep your portions consistant). you dont have to be super precise, just keep a rough estimate in mind

Yeah you're not trying to avoid a diabetic coma here. You just need a better idea of where you are in relation to your recommended daily caloric intake

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PhantomPayne
Aug 8, 2017

I should think before posting
get pancreatic cancer and lose like 15 kg in one week! side effects may include a painful death.

SERIOUS ANSWER Someone mentioned it before but Intermittent Fasting is awesome, just eat your kilocaloric needs in an 8 hour frame (although theres people that do it in even less). There's been a ton of articles from well respected journals that conclude IF helps for weight loss, and it may work prevention for ischaemic heart disease, neurologic degeneration, and it might even prolong life spans.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

PhantomPayne posted:

get pancreatic cancer and lose like 15 kg in one week! side effects may include a painful death.

SERIOUS ANSWER Someone mentioned it before but Intermittent Fasting is awesome, just eat your kilocaloric needs in an 8 hour frame (although theres people that do it in even less). There's been a ton of articles from well respected journals that conclude IF helps for weight loss, and it may work prevention for ischaemic heart disease, neurologic degeneration, and it might even prolong life spans.

This is basically what I was doing, though I didn't hear it called intermittent fasting until afterwards. I ate lunch at noon and dinner at 6, then nothing until the next day. It kept my apitite in check

Skeleton Ape
Dec 21, 2008



When I first decided to fix my diet I meticulously logged everything in MyFitnessPal for a few weeks. For unpackaged stuff, weigh the poo poo and then you can just search the food database for generic "chicken breast" or "black beans" and then plug in whatever amount you weighed out.

After a while you'll start to get a sense of how many calories are in things and what a real portion of common items should look like. I seldom weigh my meals anymore but I'm still losing weight :woop:

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





As others have said, just eat all your food for the day during an 8 hour window. Only water outside those times. Even if you don't need to lose weight, you'll still feel better this way.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ
Just had a fat chicken burrito gonna lift sum weight in half an hour

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ
Later I'm gonna have a chicken tenders sub

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
No beef? Maybe you should get BEEFY motherfucker!!!!

NightshadeGenitals
Dec 28, 2017

Star maths and wishy thinking

feelix posted:

Later I'm gonna have a chicken tenders sub

Lmbo

How long you been “bulking”?

NightshadeGenitals
Dec 28, 2017

Star maths and wishy thinking
FYI this is why you don’t get diet and exercise advice from SA.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

NightshadeGenitals posted:

Lmbo

How long you been “bulking”?

I'm 6'4" and I lift 5 times a week and play sports. It's fine

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

fishing with the fam posted:

How the hell do people count calories if they prepare their own meals? It seems like you could only accurately count calories if everything you eat is packaged and pre-proportioned.

Packaged meals are almost always absolute dogshit.

This is why I suggest eating "whole" foods. A chicken breast is a chicken breast, broccoli is broccoli, and a potato is a potato (and despite what you may have heard, potatoes are loving awesome if you don't fry them or drown them in horrible poo poo). All those things are very easy to weigh, are loving fantastic for you, and can be made super-yummy without adding a bunch of calories with add-ons.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

numberoneposter posted:

the only way i ever lose weight has been through strenuous exercise

cause its sure as hell easier than changing my diet and drinking less

You can't, or I can't at least, drink hard and work out hard at the same time or even in close proximity. That simple physical reality forced me to stop drinking most days. To get there you also need to feel like you have to work out. Good luck on your journey.

Jove Tone
Jan 12, 2006

Im using one of those old timey machines with the strap that jiggles the fat off you.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

You can lose 100% of your weight by dying.

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer
If you intend to lose weight, you should learn about glycogen stores! I believe that lack of understanding of how glycogen works is the primary reason why people give up. When your glycogen stores are depleted that first week of your new diet, the water supporting them is shed at the same time, which is why you lose that quick 10 pounds! It's also the reason why you *don't* lose 10 pounds that second week, and only lose two, because the glycogen stores are gone and there's no excess water to shed. That can be frustrating for people who expect to get the same result for the same effort. Thankfully, there's enough folk wisdom floating around about "water weight" that a lot of people aren't too discouraged by that.

It's the opposite condition where the trouble really comes in. People lose two pounds a week, feeling like they're starving themselves, and one day eat a bit more than their maintenance. And then gain five pounds immediately. And then go "WHAT THE gently caress, STARVATION MODE IS REAL, I GIVE UP." No, it's not, it's just your glycogen stores getting refilled, relax. Go back to what you were doing and that five pounds will drop just as quickly as it went on. And then you'll go back to your regularly-scheduled two pounds per week.

There are other implications to the whole glycogen cycle. One of them being that you can only turn fat into energy so fast, which is why the glycogen is there in the first place. When we exert ourselves, the glycogen is there to help us keep up with our energy expenditure. So what if we exert ourselves with no glycogen left to pull from? Lotsa protein in them muscles! And what you don't want to do while losing fat is also lose muscle. I mean, you will lose muscle, but let's keep it to a minimum, shall we? How do we do that and still exercise? Lifting a thing is a fine thing to do, and cardio exercise in the "fat-burning zone" is good, just don't get your heart rate too high for long periods of time. You should be able to have a normal conversation without struggling while doing cardio during weight loss.

It's also why doctors generally recommend you don't lose more than two pounds a week, because losing more means you're pushing past your liver's ability to keep up and you're gonna lose muscle. Those doctors are pretty smart, listen to them. Plus, the more weight you're losing, the hungrier you will be, and the harder it will be to keep those demons at bay.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

runupon cracker posted:

If you intend to lose weight, you should learn about glycogen stores! I believe that lack of understanding of how glycogen works is the primary reason why people give up. When your glycogen stores are depleted that first week of your new diet, the water supporting them is shed at the same time, which is why you lose that quick 10 pounds! It's also the reason why you *don't* lose 10 pounds that second week, and only lose two, because the glycogen stores are gone and there's no excess water to shed. That can be frustrating for people who expect to get the same result for the same effort. Thankfully, there's enough folk wisdom floating around about "water weight" that a lot of people aren't too discouraged by that.

It's the opposite condition where the trouble really comes in. People lose two pounds a week, feeling like they're starving themselves, and one day eat a bit more than their maintenance. And then gain five pounds immediately. And then go "WHAT THE gently caress, STARVATION MODE IS REAL, I GIVE UP." No, it's not, it's just your glycogen stores getting refilled, relax. Go back to what you were doing and that five pounds will drop just as quickly as it went on. And then you'll go back to your regularly-scheduled two pounds per week.

There are other implications to the whole glycogen cycle. One of them being that you can only turn fat into energy so fast, which is why the glycogen is there in the first place. When we exert ourselves, the glycogen is there to help us keep up with our energy expenditure. So what if we exert ourselves with no glycogen left to pull from? Lotsa protein in them muscles! And what you don't want to do while losing fat is also lose muscle. I mean, you will lose muscle, but let's keep it to a minimum, shall we? How do we do that and still exercise? Lifting a thing is a fine thing to do, and cardio exercise in the "fat-burning zone" is good, just don't get your heart rate too high for long periods of time. You should be able to have a normal conversation without struggling while doing cardio during weight loss.

It's also why doctors generally recommend you don't lose more than two pounds a week, because losing more means you're pushing past your liver's ability to keep up and you're gonna lose muscle. Those doctors are pretty smart, listen to them. Plus, the more weight you're losing, the hungrier you will be, and the harder it will be to keep those demons at bay.

Lol

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
I'm about to give up on this ascetic thing.

Skipped breakfast.

Eventually navigated my way through to a plain lunch with right intention. 500 calories.

Meditated for a bit. Useful.

Hungry again. Feeling a bit light headed.

Probably gonna get some take out

dracky
Nov 8, 2010

I started going out for walks everyday to relieve stress, just had some upbeat music to listen to and walk for half an hour or so, usually at lunch or in the evenings. I was actually surprised that I lost weight because it didn't feel like exercise to me, it was just how I would chill out after a hard day at work.

Who Is Paul Blart
Oct 22, 2010
I am going to get fat and die

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Fat people on my Somethingawful.com comedy forums? Why, I never!

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

PhantomPayne posted:

get pancreatic cancer and lose like 15 kg in one week! side effects may include a painful death.

SERIOUS ANSWER Someone mentioned it before but Intermittent Fasting is awesome, just eat your kilocaloric needs in an 8 hour frame (although theres people that do it in even less). There's been a ton of articles from well respected journals that conclude IF helps for weight loss, and it may work prevention for ischaemic heart disease, neurologic degeneration, and it might even prolong life spans.

some doctor woman talks about your secret spoiler tip on joe rogan but i think the studies showed it was more like 10 1/2 hour window for most peoples enzymes to digest food normally, so you eat in that range and avoid stretching it or 'starting the process over'

also she claimed even a 10 calorie vitamin starts this process in your gut so if you're wasting money on supplements take those with breakfast

Piggy Smalls
Jun 21, 2015



BOSS MAKES A DOLLAR,
YOU MAKE A DIME,
I'LL LICK HIS BOOT TILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS SHINE.

Did I mess up? I ate a salad for lunch but had a Hawaiian beef plate with white rice and macaroni salad for dinner. drat.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Piggy Smalls posted:

Did I mess up? I ate a salad for lunch but had a Hawaiian beef plate with white rice and macaroni salad for dinner. drat.

Did you gently caress a lot to burn at least some calories?

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Piggy Smalls posted:

Did I mess up? I ate a salad for lunch but had a Hawaiian beef plate with white rice and macaroni salad for dinner. drat.

GET BEEFY OP!!!

Piggy Smalls
Jun 21, 2015



BOSS MAKES A DOLLAR,
YOU MAKE A DIME,
I'LL LICK HIS BOOT TILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS SHINE.

:(

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

extra stout posted:

some doctor woman talks about your secret spoiler tip on joe rogan but i think the studies showed it was more like 10 1/2 hour window for most peoples enzymes to digest food normally, so you eat in that range and avoid stretching it or 'starting the process over'

also she claimed even a 10 calorie vitamin starts this process in your gut so if you're wasting money on supplements take those with breakfast

This is complete and utter bullshit. I'm not saying that IF is ineffective, I'm saying that the contents of your post are bullshit.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

PhantomPayne posted:

prevention for ischaemic heart disease, neurologic degeneration, and it might even prolong life spans

IF does these things because weight loss does these things

FAGGY CLAUSE
Apr 9, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
I was reading this story about a fat woman who thought she had a rectovaginal fistula..or a hole between her rectum and her vagina, because she had poo poo coming out of her pussy. it turns out she was just a giant fat rear end vegetable hater and poo poo was just leaking out of her anus and going up her vulva.

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH
Less food and less booze

I'm a miracle worker

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

runupon cracker posted:

Fat loss (because that's really what you're aiming for) is 90% diet and 10% everything else. Exercise is important, but you will not lose weight through exercise alone. You must change your diet or you're just going to chase your tail forever.

Ignore people who say weight loss is A) easy, or B) impossible. They are both almost certainly wrong for you. There is a relatively small percentage of people on the A end, and a vanishingly small percentage of people on the B end. Losing 20 pounds is pretty easy for just about everybody. For the vast majority of people, significant weight loss is difficult, but doable.

Drink water, eat whole foods, get lots of fiber, track your calories in/out. It will take some time for you to learn how to do this. Be patient.

Long-term weight loss is NOT about willpower, it's about building good habits. You will need some willpower to get started, but use that willpower to build up the habits of tracking your calories and staying within your limits, and those habits will carry you the rest of the way.

Credentials: used to weigh 330 lbs, now weigh 220 lbs. Down from "obese" to "overweight" and been in that category for roughly four years.

edit: this is the coles notes version, will add more later.

Lol you've been overweight for four years straight and you act like some kind of expert on weight loss? Get to a healthy body weight for once and maybe then you'll have something to say

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
Let's get fat like the humans in Wall-E

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

feelix posted:

I'm 6'4" and I lift 5 times a week and play sports. It's fine

You look like poo poo. Post a pic fatso

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Use my fitness regimen.

Install MyFitnessPal
Install Strava
Stop eating too much and get on your bike.
Stay in the green on MFP

Drop 85lbs

Get addicted to cycling and fitness
Buy 5 bikes in 2 years
Get hit by cars 3 times, still keep riding
Slowly stop doing all your sedentary hobbies, like stupid computer games. Start fishing and hunting and stuff
Get so loving sick and tired of your lovely office job that you get yourself fired because you cant hide your contempt for the white collar circle jerk and the constant discussions from coworkers that do nothing but talk about the junk they buy the food they eat and the stupid poo poo they watch on TV
Get a job at a bike shop

Wait maybe stop at dropping the weight. I think I'm slowly going broke.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



do you change the number of calories you take in if you're doing IF?

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

You look like poo poo. Post a pic fatso

You seem a bit inordinately hostile.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Actually fat is 100% genetic and it's impossible to loose weight and your weight doesn't have any relation to your health and no I'm not going to tell you how much I weight that's sizeist.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

EvilJoven posted:

Get so loving sick and tired of your lovely office job that you get yourself fired because you cant hide your contempt for the white collar circle jerk and the constant discussions from coworkers that do nothing but talk about the junk they buy the food they eat and the stupid poo poo they watch on TV

yeah, why can't they talk about real stuff like getting hit by cars and standing in a river for hours

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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
That's way more interesting than having to listen to coworkers fan theories about their stupid zombie and DC superhero tv shows for 8 loving hours a day.

Also wtf I just used some websites math to figure out my 'fat burning zone' for heart rate and it's like 130. That's super boring.

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