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glitchwraith posted:I think Covid delays derailed a lot of planned Marvel books, and the X-Men books where no exception. Though, I can't say for certain if the Five where a victim of that or not. I do think the Five could have made a great team book if you found something for them to do outside of resurrecting people, which would make a rather boring narrative on it's own. The Five are pretty hard to write a book around when the first info block about them says doing resurrections is really chill for them and they all really love each other and have no issues with doing nothing but return people all day, especially Proteus don't worry about him at all. That is maybe better than any implications made by not stating that up front, but it doesn't give The Five much room for stories beyond being another lever of political power in Krakoa. IIRC, they were supposed to feature in X-Factor more?
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OnimaruXLR posted:The Sabertooth books were weirdly thoughtful and interesting explorations of Creed as a character and also the flaws in Krakoan justice; then the Sabertooth War came along and while I don't think it's the worst thing I ever read, it's got me rolling my eyes real hard at any time someone has suggested Percy's a good writer. I don't care how much you love the Hank McCoy=Kissinger gag! I've been thinking I'd like to read more comics about Sabretooth and the stuff with him as a prisoner is recommended a lot. Near as I can tell it starts with X-Men Unlimited #3 (which is always an issue directly named and recommended in the threads I've found) and I guess I'll just follow this list from there on the "prisoner storyline".
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Mar 27, 2024 03:39
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The core plot of the Sabretooth mini kind of unfortunately makes no sense, because the premise is that none of the other Krakoans know that the Pit exists and that it's some great big sinful secret that the Quiet Council was hiding from their citizens. Even disregarding that the Pit had been referenced in other books by this time so other mutants definitely did in fact know about it...why in the world would they not know? Why wouldn't the Council simply tell everyone about it? The whole point of having a system of punishment is to deter others from committing the same crimes, but how would they be deterred if they didn't know the actual punishment? "Hey Eye Boy, remember not to kill anyone!" "Why, what would happen if I did?" "  "
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Maduo posted:The Five are pretty hard to write a book around when the first info block about them says doing resurrections is really chill for them and they all really love each other and have no issues with doing nothing but return people all day, especially Proteus don't worry about him at all. That is exactly what I found weird tho, that the five (and other characters in the saga, although the five are the most obvious) seem content with essentially just being their powers all day, in order to keep the wheels of krakoa turning. That seems very counter to the whole message of x men that people are more than their physical characteristics. I figured they might do something a bit more reflective with Xavier being constantly plugged into his powers considering he’s always using his fetching cerebro hat at least
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X-Force is probably the closest to what you're describing. Black Tom is connected to Krakoa constantly and talks a lot about the discomfort of it.
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Mar 27, 2024 14:28
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I'll check it out!
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Mar 27, 2024 14:44
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Ultimate spidey is awesome. Just keeps me guessing on what's gonna happen.
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Mar 27, 2024 15:21
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Saoshyant posted:I'd read Marauders first so the two Sabretooth minis hit harder. Not just the parts with Nanny&OM either, but the whole hypocrisy between the formation of the Marauders themselves and what happen to a different group of undesirables. I think you mean Hellions, though easy mistake to make given Emma stole Sinister's team name, and Sinister replied in kind. Both a really good books to check out though.
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glitchwraith posted:I think you mean Hellions, though easy mistake to make given Emma stole Sinister's team name, and Sinister replied in kind. Both a really good books to check out though.  drat it. Yes, Hellions, not Marauders. The earlier Marauders wasn't bad, but really it's Hellions that shines among those two and makes for a good companion book for LaValle's Sabretooth work.
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glitchwraith posted:I think Covid delays derailed a lot of planned Marvel books, and the X-Men books where no exception. Though, I can't say for certain if the Five where a victim of that or not. I do think the Five could have made a great team book if you found something for them to do outside of resurrecting people, which would make a rather boring narrative on it's own. Man I’m so mad we never got that second arc of The Amazing Mary Jane.
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So folks were talking about the new X-Men cartoon, based on the old X-Men cartoon, and nostalgia. Somebody saidquote:90's nostalgia in regards to the X-men comics, seems to only mean everything between 1990 and 1992. With the period from 1995 to 2000 in particular having quite a bad reputation Can any X history buffs fill me in on any of this? Why is the early 90s so highly acclaimed and the late 90s so hated?
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NikkolasKing posted:So folks were talking about the new X-Men cartoon, based on the old X-Men cartoon, and nostalgia. Somebody said the early 90s is when X-Men #1 and X-Force #1 were The Highest Selling Comics of All Time and when the original animated series started, mid-to-late 90s is when you start getting things like Age of Apocalypse and Onslaught which still have their fans (AoA more than Onslaught lol) and by 2000 you have Warren Ellis revamping the entire line with COUNTER X and loving nobody remembers or cares about Counter X because it was a dismal failure quickly overshadowed by Grant Morrison's X-Men
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Kingtheninja posted:Ultimate spidey is awesome. Just keeps me guessing on what's gonna happen. Yeah I did not expect that ending! Also the implication that Stark didn't give his tech to Peter but used Osborn tech? What's going on there? Also, our very own Vulpes had a pretty awesome ad in the comic. It was a double-page spread of three upcoming Blood Hunt storyline comics, all written by him.
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NikkolasKing posted:So folks were talking about the new X-Men cartoon, based on the old X-Men cartoon, and nostalgia. Somebody said Early 90s is the end of Claremont's run leading to the big relaunch Uncanny X-Men, X-Factor, and the launch of X-Men (New Mutants was canceled and turned into X-Force shortly prior to this). It was cool with lots of new costume designs, some pretty big ideas, and generally a fun vibe. Claremont left shortly thereafter and it became meandering with some mediocre writers making non-sensical storylines and endless crossovers (though Age of Apocalypse fits in here and is - if not appreciated for its quality, at least enjoyed for what it did) that also led to the Heroes Reborn era. Objectively the relaunch era isn't really very good, and you could see Claremont being frustrated with being secondary to the superstar artists he was working with (who also left to go start Image), but I think it gets a lot of rose-tinted glasses just for being the formative X-Men for a lot of people.
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That era is kinda funny because it's like "we have the most popular comic in America, but all the people involved with getting it there have quit."
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John Francis Moore's X-Force is secretly the best X Book of the 90s don't tell anyone
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Gripweed posted:That reminds me, whatever happened to Galactus's daughter? Did you manifest into existence Galacta being in the new Marvel video game? Can you ask about US1?
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There are a few post Claremont early 90s X-Men stories that are fun reads. After Age of Apocalypse there really isn’t anything worth reading in adjective less or Uncanny until New X-Men. (Unless you really love Eve of Destruction or operation zero tolerance.)
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Lobok posted:Yeah I did not expect that ending! Also the implication that Stark didn't give his tech to Peter but used Osborn tech? What's going on there? I think Harry might have come into some of Tony's tech rather than the other way around. His Goblin suit does seem to have Stark-esque aesthetics. Maybe Oscorp took over Tony's company and got his tech after he got framed and went on the run? Kind of like how Norman got his hands on Tony's stuff in Dark Reign in 616. I wouldn't be surprised if this experience is going to see Peter switching to a normal costume in the future - after all, you can't remotely override a cloth mask!
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We're three issues into Ultimate Spider-Man and Peter's identity has been found out by two people already. A proud Ultimate Spider-Man tradition carries on!
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think Harry might have come into some of Tony's tech rather than the other way around. His Goblin suit does seem to have Stark-esque aesthetics. Maybe Oscorp took over Tony's company and got his tech after he got framed and went on the run? Kind of like how Norman got his hands on Tony's stuff in Dark Reign in 616. Yeah, maybe. Harry's use of "proprietary" gave me the sense it was a more personal form of ownership. Though the Goblin suit was designed by the artist to have that centre chest light, which has no history or precedent in Goblin designs but is obviously a hallmark of Iron Man suits. X-O posted:We're three issues into Ultimate Spider-Man and Peter's identity has been found out by two people already. A proud Ultimate Spider-Man tradition carries on! His identity is weak to unconventional hair. Redheads and Osborns have a much higher chance statistically of finding it out. Lobok fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think Harry might have come into some of Tony's tech rather than the other way around. His Goblin suit does seem to have Stark-esque aesthetics. Maybe Oscorp took over Tony's company and got his tech after he got framed and went on the run? Kind of like how Norman got his hands on Tony's stuff in Dark Reign in 616. Lobok posted:Yeah, maybe. Harry's use of "proprietary" gave me the sense it was a more personal form of ownership. Though the Goblin suit was designed by the artist to have that centre chest light, which has no history or precedent in Goblin designs but is obviously a hallmark of Iron Man suits. From the very first panel in issue one. It's been known. 
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Ah ok, must have missed the discussion of it back then.
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Cartridgeblowers posted:Did you manifest into existence Galacta being in the new Marvel video game? Can you ask about US1? No, my powers only work on Galacta.
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Gripweed posted:No, my powers only work on Galacta. Can you try and see to be sure? Just start talking about Sleepwalker for a bit.
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SilverSupernova posted:Can you try and see to be sure? Just start talking about Sleepwalker for a bit. Why haven't they done a Galacta action figure yet?
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Gripweed posted:No, my powers only work on Galacta. Maybe try other Galactus-related characters? I'd be down for more Taaia! 
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she's cameo-ing in resurrection of magneto currently
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Party Boat posted:Maybe try other Galactus-related characters? I'd be down for more Taaia! Taaia popped up a couple times briefly so far in the Resurrection of Magneto book. EDIT: Beaten, but read that book it's very good!
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I definitely will when it hits Unlimited!
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The Galactus Family is going to be big.
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Preview for Avengers #12 (fall of x crossover) https://www.cbr.com/avengers-x-men-fall-x-exclusive/. I haven’t read a ton of stuff with 3-D Man outside of the Busiek Avengers, but did he have a heel turn at some point?
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When did they add another name for Magneto?
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Azubah posted:When did they add another name for Magneto? Which one? Max was from Magneto Testament in 2008.
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srypher posted:Preview for Avengers #12 (fall of x crossover) https://www.cbr.com/avengers-x-men-fall-x-exclusive/. I haven’t read a ton of stuff with 3-D Man outside of the Busiek Avengers, but did he have a heel turn at some point? After Busiek's Avengers run his next big plot beat was being part of Captain America's anti-registration resistance, not doing anything of note during Civil War, then joining up with the Initiative program after that. He didn't do much with that either, until Secret Invasion started and his 3D Man glasses were one of the few things that could detect Skrulls, which turned him into a kind of radicalized Skrull Hunter. A lot of the other Initiative members were not a fan of him being so eager to kill all Skrulls, so he quit. He's been part of some Agents of Atlas revivals since then, but otherwise has mostly just appeared in crowd shots. I honestly don't remember what he did in the Atlas stuff, so picking up the thread of "3D Man is kind of violently xenophobic" from the Secret Invasion storyline seems like what they're running with for this story.
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Edge & Christian posted:Triathlon/3-D Man hasn't been used all that much over the years. That or he's following in the footsteps of his fellow Avenger and is a man on the inside for the resistance.
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Yvonmukluk posted:That or he's following in the footsteps of his fellow Avenger and is a man on the inside for the resistance. Yeah 3DMan seems like the kinda guy McKay would absolutely give a push to
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srypher posted:Preview for Avengers #12 (fall of x crossover) https://www.cbr.com/avengers-x-men-fall-x-exclusive/. I haven’t read a ton of stuff with 3-D Man outside of the Busiek Avengers, but did he have a heel turn at some point? When he helped to “hide” Shelly Miscavige
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So I read Sabretooth's 1993 mini and also this little series with him and Mystique. Neither really did much for me. Also having Sabretooth, renowned killer and monster, constantly use the word "geek" was...offputting. I was a little worried all the stuff with him would use that level of dialogue and excessive exclamation points. But X-Men Unlimited #3 was really good. Now he's a prisoner of Xavier's and I hope the rest of that maintains roughly the same level of quality. The miniseries had interesting points; I just hated the juvenile dialogue. But the whole overarching idea in it and in XU3 - that he does feel emotional pain and that his attempt to drive this away motivates him more than simply being some unfeeling psycho - is interesting.
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